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If we're comparing those draft classes.
Ryan Tannehill = Alex Smith
Andrew Luck = Aaron Rodgers
RGIII = ????

Here's hoping that he's better than Rodgers, but I think RGIII is better than Smith right now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;894512]In all honesty, I happen to prefer what the Redskins actually did to taking Tannehill at six.

But I have to be right about BOTH Griffin AND Tannehill. If not right about both, then I am wrong about preferring this trade.

If Griffin isn't the clear no. 1 on the depth chart in 2014 for whatever reason and Tannehill is starting in this league, this will be the worst trade in modern NFL history, and what Shanahan will ultimately be remembered for, instead of the super bowls.

So yeah, this is very much going all-in. [B]Recklessly all-in.[/B][/quote]

Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.

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No need to watch the first hour of the draft lol. Time to get the RG3 jersey, as soon as find out what number he is.

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I was just driving on my lunch break and almost crashed my pickup when they broke this on KNBR. WTF is Shannahan doing! I rather take Tannehill instead of paying that price.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;894516]It's not like we traded a 2nd for TJ Duckett all over again.[/quote]Redskins trade for RG3: "Hey, at least its not TJ Duckett!"

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[quote=GTripp0012;894512]In all honesty, I happen to prefer what the Redskins actually did to taking Tannehill at six.

But I have to be right about BOTH Griffin AND Tannehill. If not right about both, then I am wrong about preferring this trade.

If Griffin isn't the clear no. 1 on the depth chart in 2014 for whatever reason and Tannehill is starting in this league, this will be the worst trade in modern NFL history, and what Shanahan will ultimately be remembered for, instead of the super bowls.

So yeah, this is very much going all-in. Recklessly all-in.[/quote]

C'mon Tripp .... I knew u rain on our parade ... Lol. Whatever. I'm so f'ing happy

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OH SHNAPS!!!

Am I feeling the Luck coming to us? :FIREdevil:

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[quote=Lotus;894527]Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.[/quote]On the bright side, at least we have higher expectations for this quarterback than "worth two weeks of Doug Dutch."

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894511]Yoda? Really? I just said that when people said I was crazy for offering up (whats now nothing) a large amount of picks people said it wouldn't be that much I said it would to get it to that. That's all I was trying to say. I was gonna message you this but I can't message for some reason. Maybe you can tell me how.

[B]So Lotus, who would you get for RG3 to throw to since we have no second rounder now?[/B][/quote]

Give it up. You didn't call anything because you did not say 3 #1's and a #2.

If your point was that Griffin would be expensive, many others said that, so why are you gloating?

Since you haven't gotten the point, let me say it in caps: DOUCHE.

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I fully expect John Beck to compete with RG3 for the starting QB job..

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;894531]C'mon Tripp .... I knew u rain on our parade ... Lol. Whatever. I'm so f'ing happy[/quote]Hey, you're welcome to tell me I'm wrong.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Watch us turn around and trade the pick to the browns for three 1st round picks and there second

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[quote=GTripp0012;894533]On the bright side, at least we have higher expectations for this quarterback than "worth two weeks of Doug Dutch."[/quote]

:lol:

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So happy!!! I still can not even gather my thoughts...just so incredibly happy. I will wait until at least tomorrow to start praying that he's as good as advertised.

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[quote=gusfrerotte;894459]rg iii would have to be a lot better than elway, favre, young, marino, to to win with our team as it stands right now. We basically put all our eggs in one basket ala shuler way back when. Thing is if rg iii is a dud, we don't have a frerotte or trent green to at least keep us somewhat competitve. Beck and grossman suck![/quote]

believe!!!

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Fuk Yeah

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[quote=WaldSkins;894537]Watch us turn around and trade the pick to the browns for three 1st round picks and there second[/quote]

:confused:

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;894516]It's not like we traded a 2nd for TJ Duckett all over again.[/quote]

This

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[quote=Ruhskins;894525]In other news Vinny Cerrato says he would have done the same for Justin Blackmon. LOL.[/quote]

Vinny might have a future as a comedian. Leave it to him to make me feel better about a Vinny-esque gamble like this.

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We still didn't give up as much as Ditka. Kinda depressing to know we will not have a draft for the next couple of years.

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[quote=celts32;894539]So happy!!! I still can not even gather my thoughts...just so incredibly happy. I will wait until at least tomorrow to start praying that he's as good as advertised.[/quote]

You and I have been together calling for QB quality. In fact, to give proper credit, you were there first.

But isn't the price awful steep? We don't have a first round pick until the next Presidential cycle is gearing up.

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[quote=GTripp0012;894519]I think he could have tried to poach Alex Smith as a stopgap.

That would have been buying high, sure, and Smith isn't anyone's franchise quarterback, but it would have been a legit acquisition at the QB position that wouldn't have cost draft value and would have swung the leverage back to the Redskins.[/quote]

I still think that relying on any free agent coming in for the redskins would be a big risk regardless. That's assuming that they would be able to even acquire one that was good enough.

With RGIII, we have hope. I'm trying to look at the bright side of giving up so many high picks. That's trading 2 Kerrigans and 1 Jarvis Jenkins. But at least the redskins made what was their biggest weakness into hopefully their biggest strength at the most important position in the nfl.

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[quote=Gtothearry;894515][B]Yes, we have holes but a great QB makes a team better[/B]. Place some of the Patriots offensive playmakers on the Skins with Grossman at QB and see how great they do.[/quote]That's just the thing though. We're not getting a great QB. We're getting a great QB prospect. And a prospect needs his teammates to pick up some of the slack early in his career so he can pay it back on the back end.

To be clear, by the time we're talking about Griffin carrying us, you're talking 2016, 2017, 2018. Only one QB drafted by the Redskins since the merger made it that far into his career before being forced out of town.

In the mean time, what you KNOW you have in Griffin is a viable starter at the quarterback position. Which we've had in plenty of other years from Grossman to McNabb, Campbell, Brunell, Johnson, etc.

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Shefter just said on SportsCenter what others have said here...

The Redskins still will fully pursue Peyton Manning.

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[quote=Lotus;894534]Give it up. You didn't call anything because you did not say 3 #1's and a #2.

If your point was that Griffin would be expensive, many others said that, so why are you gloating?

Since you haven't gotten the point, let me say it in caps: [B]DOUCHE[/B].[/quote]

I'm not a douche, but you're starting to form into one judging by how you handle things, to how other people on this board handle things, I want to talk about Mr. Griffin, you want to hound me about that. I'm remembering this for our next argument.

For now all I'm thinking is this
[IMG]http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Robert-Griffin-Redskins-e1323836092926.png[/IMG]

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[quote=Gtothearry;894545]We still didn't give up as much as Ditka. Kinda depressing to know we will not have a draft for the next couple of years.[/quote]

Arguably we gave up more than Ditka. Ditka gave up more picks but not 3 #1's and a #2. 6th round picks are almost throwaways. Even Herschel Walker didn't go for 3 #1's and a #2 as I recall it.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;894516]It's not like we traded a 2nd for TJ Duckett all over again.[/QUOTE]

Or traded picks for Jason Taylor for one year.

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[quote=Lotus;894527]Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.[/quote]

For me I think RG3 will either be a mega bust or a mega star. I don't really see him being an average qb in the NFL. He will either be incredible at everything he does (which I think has a decent chance of happening) or he will be incredibly bad at everything he does. So if he's incredibly good, we might be talking about him being a Pro Bowler sooner than 2014. I expect the Shannies to put him in a position to succeed. For the price they paid he will be the day one starter, no questions asked.

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[quote=GTripp0012;894548]That's just the thing though. We're not getting a great QB. We're getting a great QB prospect. And a prospect needs his teammates to pick up some of the slack early in his career so he can pay it back on the back end.

To be clear, by the time we're talking about Griffin carrying us, you're talking 2016, 2017, 2018. Only one QB drafted by the Redskins since the merger made it that far into his career before being forced out of town.

In the mean time, what you KNOW you have in Griffin is a viable starter at the quarterback position. Which we've had in plenty of other years from Grossman to McNabb, Campbell, Brunell, Johnson, etc.[/quote]

I agree.
for 3 first rounders and a 2nd...do you think we could have gotten Drew Breese?..or any pro bowl QB out there?....I say ....possibly.
This guy is an unknown commodity...and yes...the skins paid way too much...I am bummed, but at least I am hopeful

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;894545]We still didn't give up as much as Ditka. Kinda depressing to know we will not have a draft for the next couple of years.[/QUOTE]

The 2nd rounder this year is what stings a little for me. We will still have drafts just not 1st rounders can still build a team in the draft with 2nd-7th rounders.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;894528]No need to watch the first hour of the draft lol. Time to get the RG3 jersey, as soon as find out what number he is.[/quote]

No - however you feel about this trade - after watching the redskins draft RGIII, it's time to start taking shots.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;894549]Shefter just said on SportsCenter what others have said here...

The Redskins still will fully pursue Peyton Manning.[/quote]

Why? Theres no need! We have our QB!

RG3
Rex
Beck or Rookie late round undrafted QB (Austin Davis or Kellen moore)

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Glazer said the deal was done yesterday.

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Again .... We r getting their first so it's basically two first rounders ..... Is it this years 2nd??

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Now that it's official Robert Griffin III will be a Redskin, I'm very elated. I feel a since of satisfaction and I doubt seriously if RG3 will bust. He could make the pro bowl in his rookie season. But it's important that there's not an enormous amount of pressure on him. I just want to see him succeed.

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We got 2 first rounders for Sean Gilbert and a whole draft for Ricky Williams and all we ended up with was 1 playoff win.

This is a passing league now and we had to do everything we can to get a Franchise QB.
Let's hope he is worth it.

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[quote=warriorzpath;894547]I still think that relying on any free agent coming in for the redskins would be a big risk regardless. That's assuming that they would be able to even acquire one that was good enough.

With RGIII, we have hope. I'm trying to look at the bright side of giving up do many high picks. That's trading 2 Kerrigans and 1 Jarvis Jenkins. But at least the redskins made what was their biggest weakness into hopefully their biggest strength at the most important position in the nfl.[/quote]Even a sexy stopgap is still a stopgap, sure. There are no guarantees.

I mean, go to any year during the preseason. Redskins fans were never lacking in hope. Most people picked 8-10 wins last year. Is it more justified this year? Well, you [B]have[/B] to feel good about your running game, if Kyle Shanahan can figure out how to work it into the gameplan this year. The passing game is probably going to get a boost too. There is legitimate potential in this offense, which there was not last year.

But the defense is a huge question mark and the special teams have been bad for years.

So I think hope this year is kind of like hope in the other years. The Redskins still project as a pretty weak team. RG3 needs just one good season to change the overall long term prospects of the organization. He has that kind of power. But if he's Blaine Gabbert with a wicked bootleg as a rookie, then the Redskins look like the team they've always looked like.

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[quote=GTripp0012;894548][B]That's just the thing though. We're not getting a great QB. We're getting a great QB prospect. [/B]And a prospect needs his teammates to pick up some of the slack early in his career so he can pay it back on the back end.

To be clear, by the time we're talking about Griffin carrying us, you're talking 2016, 2017, 2018. Only one QB drafted by the Redskins since the merger made it that far into his career before being forced out of town.

In the mean time, what you KNOW you have in Griffin is a viable starter at the quarterback position. Which we've had in plenty of other years from Grossman to McNabb, Campbell, Brunell, Johnson, etc.[/quote]

True, but we may have missed out on a great QB if we didn't make the trade. Ya never know........

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;894558]Why? Theres no need! We have our QB!

RG3
Rex
Beck or Rookie late round undrafted QB (Austin Davis or Kellen moore)[/QUOTE]

I agree bring back Rex as backup and to help teach system to RG3.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;894561]Now that it's official Robert Griffin III will be a Redskin, I'm very elated. I feel a since of satisfaction and I doubt seriously if RG3 will bust. He could make the pro bowl in his rookie season. [B]But it's important that there's not an enormous amount of pressure on him.[/B] I just want to see him succeed.[/quote]

We traded a king's ransom for him. There is huge pressure on him starting right now.