Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;970771]We are all amazed at how RG3 is playing like a veteran and I'd like to give major props to Alfred Morris for doing the same. How many rookies come back from a fumble and pretty much win the game with those runs towards the end. I think it is safe to say that we are set at QB and RB for the future.[/quote]

I saw a stat that he made 58 yards after the fumble. Again, CRed and I both commented on how, after the fumble, he really seemed intent on making up for it.

Also, I think it is in Grazino's column somewhere, Morris has somthing like 450 yards in 48 carries against NFC East opponents or about a 9 yds/carry average. Amazing. The man is a beast.

Griffin, Morris, Garcon. Young and ready to run.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

Hey Justin Tuck was very quiet last night.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;970779]A month or two ago, i think Smoot said/implied there was mutual interest to varying degrees with several teams and it was all but garaunteed he'd be somewhere else next year. I really hope there's some way we can keep him. He and RGIII are obviously working well together and i think switching offensive coordinators would only stunt the offense. I can't imagine someone else coming in and doing as good a job as Kyle.

I guess it really depends on how long Mike plans to coach. If we really just wants to coach out the rest of his contract, then i could see snyder/allen convincing Kyle to stay if they promised making him the HC when his dad retires. If Mike has no intention of retiring anytime soon, then Kyle is gone... and i'm worried he'd go to Philly or Dallas.[/quote]

Kyle has been and will continue to be in hot demand until he makes a decision. I hope he decides to stay here

Trent Williams may be the best LT in the nfc

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=mredskins;970758]Who mute their TV after the first quarter not to have to listen to Gruden. Gruden is perfect for the fair weather fans that are flocking here now.


[B][I]"and I watched RGIII last night he is awesome but they got other great players like D. Hall; the guy on TV could not stop talking about him." [/I][/B]


Which leads me too brace yourself for the band wagoners; good after the 2004 WS everyone and their mother was a Red Sox fan. I was like where have this people been?[/quote]

I don't understand your negative attitude toward bandwagon fans. We need them. It's only going to help the Skins to have a home stadium filled with loud, crazy fans and to have more support throughout the community. It helps the team to build momentum. Plus it's more fun.

We are not better than the bandwagon folks. We just a have a higher threshold for emotional pain and disappointment than they do. Everybody loves a winner but few people can hang in there for decades of losing.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

something that needs to be stated, Darrel "Big Soft" Young having a solid year. I saw several huge blocks last night and a first down run. Shanny keeps developing these guys...

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;970790]I don't understand your negative attitude toward bandwagon fans. We need them. It's only going to help the Skins to have a home stadium filled with loud, crazy fans and to have more support throughout the community. It helps the team to build momentum. Plus it's more fun.

We are not better than the bandwagon folks. We just a have a higher threshold for emotional pain and disappointment than they do. Everybody loves a winner but few people can hang in there for decades of losing.[/quote]

Hmmmm..you will see. I just started wearing Sox hats again.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

I love what I saw out of this Redskins team last night. RG3, Alfred Morris, Pierre Garcon, and the Redskins offensive line. Leonard Hankerson came up with a key reception too. Was Aldrick Robinson active for last night's game? After the game Robinson had against the Doo Doo Boys on Thanksgiving, I was looking forward to see him last night about the Giants. The defense played well too. London Fletcher and Perry Riley were making tackles. Rob Jackson sacked Eli Manning. Ryan Kerrigan was being held all game but still made plays. The Redskins secondary still showed last night how much it is the weak link of the defense. I've gotten so tired of criticizing DeAngelo Hall and Josh Wilson that I just see if they can bounce back and make plays after being burned. Madieu Williams made one mistake but otherwise played a good game.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

There was actually a Goat sighting at last nights game.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J41lseYtwOE]Martellus Bennett's TD vs Redskins 2012 - YouTube[/url]


You can see him cheering on Bennett at the end of the TD.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;970795]I love what I saw out of this Redskins team last night. RG3, Alfred Morris, Pierre Garcon, and the Redskins offensive line. Leonard Hankerson came up with a key reception too. Was Aldrick Robinson active for last night's game? After the game Robinson had against the Doo Doo Boys on Thanksgiving, I was looking forward to see him last night about the Giants. The defense played well too. London Fletcher and Perry Riley were making tackles. Rob Jackson sacked Eli Manning. Ryan Kerrigan was being held all game but still made plays. The Redskins secondary still showed last night how much it is the weak link of the defense. I've gotten so tired of criticizing DeAngelo Hall and Josh Wilson that I just see if they can bounce back and make plays after being burned. Madieu Williams made one mistake but otherwise played a good game.[/quote]

I think part of the reason the secondary struggles is because the total lack of pass rush. Williams was beaten last night a few times, Eli just missed some open wr's. But Jackson, Bowen, Cofield, Jenkins, Kerrigan...they simply can't get to the QB. They're solid against the run but they CAN NOT rush the passer. We give up yards but I'll take holding NY to 16 points every time. The D did more than did their job last night. However, if Eli hits a few, today is a totally different story.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

Baguettes and Croissants for everyone today. Pierre Garçon is a MAN.

I went to the game last night and it was LOUD!!!!

Side note: I can totally see how fights happen at games now, because the Giants fan next to me was effing obnoxious. Screaming in my ear, yelling how bad we are. It was so gratifying to silence him with a Redskins victory. I wanted to punch him in and around his face. So annoying.

That is all. Back to work today. Godbless Redskins nation.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

So, with the ESPN Playoff Generator, using Offense Rank, we play the Giants @ Fedex as the 4th seed(us) vs 5th seed(them)

That would be amazing.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;970777]Oops. Sorry for the rant - just saw this. I didn't remember you as being on the "MS & KS suck" band wagon. Just saw the statement and it set me off.

Really just want to give a big middle finger to all the "Garcon was a waste, KS is holding RGIII back. You'll see, everyone is going to want to fire MS by the end of the year" crowd.

And yes ... I realize that's not particularly courteous or Christian - but, unlike RGIII, I am merely human and, on occasion, err.[/QUOTE]

It's easy to go back in time and criticize people on their opinions,where would yours be if we had lost these 3 games?
3 games back it was absolutely relevant to discuss Garçon and Shanny
No one thought Garçon would contribute this yr after injury,and while he's not a bust he hasn't lived up to contract( nobody's fault)
How many posters said KS was holding back RG3? 1? Remember httr24-7 said RG3 said the same thing,please keep bringing it up to RG3 also,get over it already
My problems with MS were not just about overall record,there was a lot more to it then that
Having said that,his past 3 games have been BY FAR the best he has coached,handled replay,clock management etc and if he keeps it up would go a long way towards overlooking the other mistakes
And Joe this is not a personal affront to you,I'm just tired of the old shit about KS holding RG3 back when it seems like there was only 1 poster saying that(besides RG3 himself)
I am merely human also and also on occasion,err :)

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=htownskinfan;970810]It's easy to go back in time and criticize people on their opinions,where would yours be if we had lost these 3 games?
3 games back it was absolutely relevant to discuss Garçon and Shanny
No one thought Garçon would contribute this yr after injury,and while he's not a bust he hasn't lived up to contract( nobody's fault)
[B]How many posters said KS was holding back RG3[/B]? 1? Remember httr24-7 said RG3 said the same thing,please keep bringing it up to RG3 also,get over it already
My problems with MS were not just about overall record,there was a lot more to it then that
Having said that,his past 3 games have been BY FAR the best he has coached,handled replay,clock management etc and if he keeps it up would go a long way towards overlooking the other mistakes
And Joe this is not a personal affront to you,I'm just tired of the old shit about KS holding RG3 back when it seems like there was only 1 poster saying that(besides RG3 himself)
I am merely human also and also on occasion,err :)[/quote]

I said it and I still think he does at times. The wr screens in the red zone last night? Terrible calls. Gotta let RG3 take a shot in the end zone there instead of playing it safe. Play action pass at the end of the game. GREAT CALL.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

The entire team from the coaches on down have turned things around significantly the past three weeks. Or did they? How much of it is just better execution? How much of this was all part of the plan Shanahan talked about even this summer of developing RG3 gradually? Tough to say for sure.

But if at this point, you can't acknowledge that it's not RG3 winning in spite of the coaches then I don't know what to say

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

Plays that work = great calls. Plays that don't = Kyle is a bum.

Can't win 'em all, just watch any game and let us know if you find a perfectly called and executed game. Sometimes the D just does their job.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=mredskins;970758]Who mute their TV after the first quarter not to have to listen to Gruden. Gruden is perfect for the fair weather fans that are flocking here now.


[B][I]"and I watched RGIII last night he is awesome but they got other great players like D. Hall; the guy on TV could not stop talking about him." [/I][/B]


Which leads me too brace yourself for the band wagoners; good after the 2004 WS everyone and their mother was a Red Sox fan. I was like where have this people been?[/quote]

I cant stand Gruden. He makes MNF almost unwatchable.

I actually love gruden on MNF. Yeah he's a little annoying but he's hilarious

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;970813]Plays that work = great calls. Plays that don't = Kyle is a bum.

Can't win 'em all, just watch any game and let us know if you find a perfectly called and executed game. Sometimes the D just does their job.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm worried that Kyle finds a coaching gig somewhere. I guess it depends on how many vacancies there are to fill elsewhere in the league- but with each win, his stock elevates.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;970778]Rants aside (thank you for your indulgence) ... Has anyone noticed that, now, many teams have adopted that "college crap" Pistol Offense set? CRed made the comment to me last night and I have since wondered if other teams were using it prior to this year. It does seem to have sprung up out of nowhere this season. Were Denver and Carolina using it last year?[/quote]

Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle!

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

This was a great and much need division win. That puts us currently at 3 / 1 vs Division opponents. Unfortunately the Bryce Brown fumble made the Cowpukes 3 and 2 in the division.

I just hope we can shut out the last two division games and end 5 / 1 in the division.... That would make my year.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;970801]I think part of the reason the secondary struggles is because the total lack of pass rush. Williams was beaten last night a few times, Eli just missed some open wr's. But Jackson, Bowen, Cofield, Jenkins, Kerrigan...they simply can't get to the QB. They're solid against the run but they CAN NOT rush the passer. We give up yards but I'll take holding NY to 16 points every time. The D did more than did their job last night. However, if Eli hits a few, today is a totally different story.[/quote]

I had posted earlier in the week that I had expected Jackson to have more sacks this year but didn't know if it was him or the way Haslett was using him. They ran some stunts in the second half and Jackson got a sack. I agree with you. Eli had time to take a nap back there at times and you can only cover a guy so long. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us try to get a pass rushing lineman next year. In fact we really need one. I really thought Jenkins would turn out to be that guy and he still may. But Haslett needs to come up with something this year. Our secondary needs all the help they can get.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

Daniel Snyder said it best:[B] "I hate those Mother****ers"!!![/B]

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

it seems like the only thing that can stop our offense is rain

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Lotus;970820]Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle![/quote]
should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=HailGreen28;970827]should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?[/quote]

Fire up the billboards on the side of the bus!

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;970812]The entire team from the coaches on down have turned things around significantly the past three weeks. Or did they? How much of it is just better execution? How much of this was all part of the plan Shanahan talked about even this summer of developing RG3 gradually? Tough to say for sure.

But if at this point, you can't acknowledge that it's not RG3 winning in spite of the coaches then I don't know what to say[/quote]

We are winning because i have not cooked any chicken wings the past three games and I have been eating ribs.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=53Fan;970822]I had posted earlier in the week that I had expected Jackson to have more sacks this year but didn't know if it was him or the way Haslett was using him. They ran some stunts in the second half and Jackson got a sack. I agree with you. Eli had time to take a nap back there at times and you can only cover a guy so long. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us try to get a pass rushing lineman next year. In fact we really need one. I really thought Jenkins would turn out to be that guy and he still may. But Haslett needs to come up with something this year. Our secondary needs all the help they can get.[/quote]

I had no problem with Haslett last night. He called a great game and was mixing things up all night long. As much as teams throw on us we should have more sacks. Kerrigan and Jackson have been a major disappointments rushing the passer.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;970813]Plays that work = great calls. Plays that don't = Kyle is a bum.

Can't win 'em all, just watch any game and let us know if you find a perfectly called and executed game. Sometimes the D just does their job.[/quote]

True. But you have to admit, at times.... Kyle just tries to get too damn cute. Other than 2-3 plays he was just fine last night.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

I'll have to say its hard to fault our secondary with our lack of pass rush. If I heard correctly our leading sack man has 3 1/2 and thats Orakpo.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=firstdown;970835]I'll have to say its hard to fault our secondary with our lack of pass rush. If I heard correctly our leading sack man has 3 1/2 and thats Orakpo.[/quote]

Eli could have taken a nap in that pocket last night.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;970836]Eli could have taken a nap in that pocket last night.[/quote]we picked a good time for our only sack, though

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

I'd have to think Mr. Snyder would make Kyle the highest paid OC in the league if/when he starts entertaining offers.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=Lotus;970820]Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle![/quote]

The only complaint I would have about Kyle is some of his calls really leave you scratching your head thinking, "wtf?" But the good part is that a lot of the time the opposing d-line is also doing the same thing. He can get them so confused it's funny. I mean laugh out loud funny. A lot of times the DE's have no idea what's happening. :)

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

We only produce QB pressure when we bring it from odd players/angles and that can only work every now and then. And we simply don't cover well to get much in the way of coverage sacks or pressure enough to hide our lack of coverage. Its the chicken or the egg. We need just one person on that line to start winning battles more consistently. That would tighten the D up enough to really give us a shot to do something here.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=FRPLG;970842]We only produce QB pressure when we bring it from odd players/angles and that can only work every now and then. And we simply don't cover well to get much in the way of coverage sacks or pressure enough to hide our lack of coverage. Its the chicken or the egg. We need just one person on that line to start winning battles more consistently. That would tighten the D up enough to really give us a shot to do something here.[/quote]

I thought it was ridiculous that a blatant hold on Kerrigan was highlighted by the MNF crew. Like WTF?!

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

For those complaining about the red zone screens. The first was an ok call but the Giants had it defended out of the box. It wasn't a "bad" call. A decent call at the wrong time. The ensuing WR screen did seem odd but it would have worked if it had been executed better in terms of blocking. I think it was Paulsen who whiffed on blocking the slot guy who essentially held the play up long enough for the DL to pursue and kill it. I'd contend it was a good call that didn't get executed.

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=FRPLG;970844]For those complaining about the red zone screens. The first was an ok call but the Giants had it defended out of the box. It wasn't a "bad" call.[B] A decent call at the wrong time[/B]. The ensuing WR screen did seem odd but it would have worked if it had been executed better in terms of blocking. I think it was Paulsen who whiffed on blocking the slot guy who essentially held the play up long enough for the DL to pursue and kill it. I'd contend it was a good call that didn't get executed.[/quote]

If its called at the wrong time doesn't that make it a bad call?

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

Hey, I think the Redskins just beat the defending SB champions!

:woot:

Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread
 

[quote=RedskinRat;970846]Hey, I think the Redskins just beat the defending SB champions!

:woot:[/quote]

Has anybody seen giantone or is he hanging out with the dallas posters who have also disappeared.