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[url=http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-dead-another-still-on-run-officials-say?lite]One Boston Marathon suspect dead, another still on run, officials say - U.S. News[/url]

Wanna merge this with the Marathon thread? I'm glad one of these assholes is dead, I really hope they can take the other guy alive so they can interrogate him and get some valuable info out of this.

I'm glad one of them is gone, but would be great to have gotten them alive for questioning

[QUOTE=mooby;1004139][url=http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-dead-another-still-on-run-officials-say?lite]One Boston Marathon suspect dead, another still on run, officials say - U.S. News[/url]

Wanna merge this with the Marathon thread? I'm glad one of these assholes is dead, I really hope they can take the other guy alive so they can interrogate him and get some valuable info out of this.[/QUOTE]

Didn't even see this, but I agree.

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One suspect is dead the other is on the loose.

[QUOTE=RedskinMike;1004142]One suspect is dead the other is on the loose.[/QUOTE]

Damn these ****ers weren't playing around, dude killed a Boston police office and they had a firefight with them. One is still on the run

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Apperently a suv was stolen and driven through police lines, after a police suv tried to do the same thing to the terrorist. Ive also heard that the killed suspect had a bomb strapped to his chest, but didn't detonate it.

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[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/18/mit-reports-gunshots-on-campus-police-officer-may-be-down/]Officials: 1 Boston Bombing Suspect Killed in Shootout in Watertown, Mass., Massive Manhunt Underway for Second Suspect | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

Some pics and a timeline. I've heard they have the second suspect confined and are waiting for daylight to make a move.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsBreaker[/url]

Russian terrorist??? Everyone guessed wrong.

[url]http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/if-you-just-woke-up-you-missed-the-craziest-night-in-the-history-of-boston/[/url]


** video of gunfight**

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1004128]lol you know me. I avoid clutter. ;)[/quote]

You were right. I was wrong

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[quote=mlmpetert;1004156][url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/18/mit-reports-gunshots-on-campus-police-officer-may-be-down/]Officials: 1 Boston Bombing Suspect Killed in Shootout in Watertown, Mass., Massive Manhunt Underway for Second Suspect | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

Some pics and a timeline. I've heard they have the second suspect confined and are waiting for daylight to make a move.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsBreaker[/url]

[B]Russian terrorist??? Everyone guessed wrong.[/B][/quote]I'm not saying this is definite or anything, but they could be Russian and Islamic radicals. The Blaze article you posted says [I]"They traveled here together from the Russian region near Chechnya."[/I]

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[quote=mlmpetert;1004156][url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/18/mit-reports-gunshots-on-campus-police-officer-may-be-down/]Officials: 1 Boston Bombing Suspect Killed in Shootout in Watertown, Mass., Massive Manhunt Underway for Second Suspect | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

Some pics and a timeline. I've heard they have the second suspect confined and are waiting for daylight to make a move.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsBreaker[/url]

[B]Russian terrorist??? Everyone guessed wrong[/B].[/quote]

Ive read they're from Chechnya. Most of Chechnya is islamic, so they are foreign terrorist. The fact their russian is secondary to the fact they are islamic terrorist who came here to kill the innocent. Russia been fighting these rebels for like 20 years.

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Woke up this morning not expecting the latest events. Glad one of them is dead.

Should see some of the pics this guy posted.

[url]https://twitter.com/akitz[/url]

Lives in the area where the shootout happened. He's lucky he wasn't sitting in that chair.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1004180]Woke up this morning not expecting the latest events. Glad one of them is dead.

Should see some of the pics this guy posted.

[url]https://twitter.com/akitz[/url]

Lives in the area where the shootout happened. He's lucky he wasn't sitting in that chair.[/quote]

I heard Reddit has set up a perimeter around the neighborhood.

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[quote=Chico23231;1004182]I heard Reddit has set up a perimeter around the neighborhood.[/quote]

They are on the scene and have everything on lockdown. :postcop:


Should be just a matter of minutes now. ;)

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People who can't separate intelligence gathering from law enforcement. <point_laugh>

Still, this is some unreal shit going off.

The father of this clown just said " if they kill my son, all hell will.break lose "

Whatever dude

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1004187]The father of this clown just said " if they kill my son, all hell will.break lose "

Whatever dude[/quote]


Source?


[url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/surviving-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-hails-from-overseas-been-in-us-for/]'I don’t understand them,' bombing suspect said of Americans | Fox News[/url]

Looks like somebody with the AP spoke to him.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1004189]Source?


[url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/surviving-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-hails-from-overseas-been-in-us-for/]'I don’t understand them,' bombing suspect said of Americans | Fox News[/url]

Looks like somebody with the AP spoke to him.[/QUOTE]

A reporter just said that on ABC as she just got off the phone with him . He also told his son to give up and turn himself in and come back to Russia

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[URL="http://www.youtube.com/user/muazseyfullah/videos?flow=grid&view=15"]Tamerlan Tsarnaev YouTube Page[/URL]

How does this shit get by Authorities, FFS!

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[quote=Chico23231;1004179]Ive read they're from Chechnya. Most of Chechnya is islamic, so they are foreign terrorist. [B]The fact their russian is secondary to the fact they are islamic terrorist who came here to kill the innocent. Russia been fighting these rebels for like 20 years[/B].[/quote]


It hit me they were likely islamic 5 minutes after i typed that. A former intelligence guy i heard this morning said that if they are recent imigrants they very well may have superior training or backgrounds compared to the type of Arab Islamic terrorist we are more used to, due to their ongoing fighting with Russian. Although it sounds like they have lived in the US for awhile now so who knows.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1004190]A reporter just said that on ABC as she just got off the phone with him . He also told his son to give up and turn himself in and come back to Russia[/quote]

His uncle had something completely different to say.


[url=http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/bombing-suspects-uncle-says-hes-shocked/]Bombing Suspects’ Uncle: They Do Not Deserve To Live On This Earth « CBS Boston[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;1004196]It hit me they were likely islamic 5 minutes after i typed that. A former intelligence guy i heard this morning said that if they are recent imigrants they very well may have superior training or backgrounds compared to the type of Arab Islamic terrorist we are more used to, due to their ongoing fighting with Russian.[B] Although it sounds like they have lived in the US for awhile now so who knows.[/B][/quote]

yep. Read in Politico this morning they had just come over in the last couple years, then read on fox they had been here 7-8 years, now read on MSNBC they've been here over a decade. Who f*cking knows, the media gets an F on their bullsh*t reporting. Apparently journalism is either dead, or they've hired a bunch of jackass 20-somethings to do a job a twenty year vet should be doing.

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Looks like we're in the final stages, the chap is cornered and the shooting has started.

Who wants to see him arrested, who wants him dead?

I want him dead, don't care about additional intel.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1004197]His uncle had something completely different to say.


[url=http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/bombing-suspects-uncle-says-hes-shocked/]Bombing Suspects&rsquo; Uncle: They Do Not Deserve To Live On This Earth « CBS Boston[/url][/QUOTE]

He's right

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1004201]He's right[/quote]

Interesting quote from the Uncle article.

[I]Totally agree, gregoryvii - as Americans we look at the quote from the uncle and think that he is denouncing the brothers. However, look carefully at his words. First, the quote says "He deserved his." At first glance I took this to be a typo meaning instead "He deserved this." But, read it as written - to an Islamist supremacist, death by jihad involving the killing or maiming of infedels is rewarded with highest honors in the afterlife. "He deserved his," as well as "They do not deserve to live on this earth" could be taken to mean that he deserves that high honor. Of course, Americans misunderstand those statements because we look through a western lens, not the lens of Islamist supremacy - perfect example of Taqiyya, or intentional deception in order to further to cause of Islam.[/I]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1004200]Looks like we're in the final stages, the chap is cornered and the shooting has started.

Who wants to see him arrested, who wants him dead.

I want him dead, don't care about additional intel.[/quote]

Id like to see him arrested to answer the questions of why

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1004203]Id like to see him arrested to answer the questions of why[/QUOTE]

Won't happen

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[quote=Chico23231;1004203]Id like to see him arrested to answer the questions of why[/quote]

Check out his YouTube page I posted earlier.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1004190]A reporter just said that on ABC as she just got off the phone with him . He also told his son to give up and turn himself in[B] and come back to Russia[/B][/quote]

ehhhhh can't say thats going to happen now

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[quote=NC_Skins;1004197]His uncle had something completely different to say.


[url=http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/bombing-suspects-uncle-says-hes-shocked/]Bombing Suspects’ Uncle: They Do Not Deserve To Live On This Earth « CBS Boston[/url][/quote]

I'm in full agreement with the uncle. However, he'd be assured a swift execution if we sent him to Russia, so that may be more practical. Its going to take decades to get a needle in the SOB here if he turns himself in.

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The scene will take a while to clear, there's probably a body with a bomb strapped to it. Poor Bomb Squad dudes.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1004200]Looks like we're in the final stages, the chap is cornered and the shooting has started.

Who wants to see him arrested, who wants him dead?

I want him dead, don't care about additional intel.[/quote]

Yeah, he's already taken atleast 4 lives and and maimed/traumatized hundreds of others. The last thing we need is to spend millions of taxpayer dollars giving him a "fair trial," lengthy appeals, feeding/clothing him in prison for decades until we can put a needle in him.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1004212]The scene will take a while to clear, there's probably a body with a bomb strapped to it. Poor Bomb Squad dudes.[/quote]

just throw a grenade on him from a safe distance

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1004218]just throw a grenade on him from a safe distance[/quote]

No need, he'll kill himself.

How many people would be ready for a summer of carnage, I wonder?. If this came to your town how would you cope?

It's like a bad episode of 24.

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[quote=mredskins;1004202]Interesting quote from the Uncle article.

[I]Totally agree, gregoryvii - as Americans we look at the quote from the uncle and think that he is denouncing the brothers. However, look carefully at his words. First, the quote says "He deserved his." At first glance I took this to be a typo meaning instead "He deserved this." But, read it as written - to an Islamist supremacist, death by jihad involving the killing or maiming of infedels is rewarded with highest honors in the afterlife. "He deserved his," as well as "They do not deserve to live on this earth" could be taken to mean that he deserves that high honor. Of course, Americans misunderstand those statements because we look through a western lens, not the lens of Islamist supremacy - perfect example of Taqiyya, or intentional deception in order to further to cause of Islam.[/I][/quote]

I think the poster is reading faaaaar too much into it and misapplying the term taqiyya. The uncle also called his nephew "a loser". To me, the uncle would not have used the derogatory term if he was invoking taqiyya - which is a self protection and limited in application to hiding was beliefs if that person is under immediate, mortal harm (further, Chechens are generally Sunni which doesn't recognize taqiyya as a formal principle since it was developed by the minority Shia muslims in response to majority Sunni oppression).

I would imagine that any follow-up will fully explore potential collaborators with these two. If the uncle is involved, I doubt he will be able to hide it. Until there is some evidence of that, however, I will take his statement at face value and assume he is both angered by and ashamed of the actions taken by his nephews.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1004224]I think the poster is reading faaaaar too much into it and misapplying the term taqiyya. The uncle also called his nephew "a loser". To me, the uncle would not have used the derogatory term if he was invoking taqiyya - which is a self protection and limited in application to hiding was beliefs if that person is under immediate, mortal harm (further, Chechens are generally Sunni which doesn't recognize taqiyya as a formal principle since it was developed by the minority Shia muslims in response to majority Sunni oppression).

I would imagine that any follow-up will fully explore potential collaborators with these two. If the uncle is involved, I doubt he will be able to hide it. Until there is some evidence of that, however, I will take his statement at face value and assume he is both angered by and ashamed of the actions taken by his nephews.[/quote]

Google the historian and theologian al Tabari, who was sunni. He said taqiyya is acceptable in certain circumstances. Also Kitman is always permitted when dealing with kufr.

Just because Chechens are generally sunni doesn't mean that they all are or that their observation of islam is the same as every other moslem.
Historically they have proved to be far more vociferous that most moslem groups. E.G. Beslan school attack.

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The uncle just gave a live press conference, and called on the suspect to turn himself in and ask forgiveness from the bombing victims and the families of the same. He also said they brought shame to the name of all Chechens. He didn't sound insincere, he sounded indignant and angry.

I get the argument about taqiyya in the comments, thought it was interesting, but listening to him live, I don't think that's what he was doing

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OMG! He (uncle) is clearly working with the bothers. Geez. Come on people.

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Here's a live stream ([url=http://www.necn.com/pages/necn_streampage]NECN - Breaking News, Boston Weather, politics and the Latest Business, Health, Arts and Sports[/url]) if you haven't seen it. Just talking media, but they just did an interview with a girl who went to middle school and high school with the suspect who is still at large.

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Ruslan is borderline delusional. "Chechens are peaceful".

Not all of them, not recently.

EDIT: I take it back, he's obviously very upset, as anyone would be.