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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217839/article/dallas-cowboys-named-most-valuable-nfl-franchise]Dallas Cowboys named most valuable NFL franchise - NFL.com[/url]

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Of those three, the only I regret is Rogers. Wish he was still here rather than D.Hall. I would agree that a bad call was made there.

While I liked Carter, getting younger through Rak, Kerrigan, Jackson and now Jenkins has been to me, a much better plan than holding onto a converted 4-3 end at the end of his career.

Landry? whatever. No regrets. Could have been useful last year given the holes in the secondary, but, really, he had worn out his welcome.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1015641]Of those three, the only I regret is Rogers. Wish he was still here rather than D.Hall. I would agree that a bad call was made there.

While I liked Carter, getting younger through Rak, Kerrigan, Jackson and now Jenkins has been to me, a much better plan than holding onto a converted 4-3 end at the end of his career.

Landry? whatever. No regrets. Could have been useful last year given the holes in the secondary, but, really, he had worn out his welcome.[/quote]

Agreed... wish things could have worked out with Rogers but I think both sides needed a change.

Landry couldn't stay healthy his last 2 yrs here. Carter was simply a bad scheme fit once we went 3-4.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1015641]Of those three, the only I regret is Rogers. Wish he was still here rather than D.Hall. I would agree that a bad call was made there.

While I liked Carter, getting younger through Rak, Kerrigan, Jackson and now Jenkins has been to me, a much better plan than holding onto a converted 4-3 end at the end of his career.

Landry? whatever. No regrets. Could have been useful last year given the holes in the secondary, but, really, he had worn out his welcome.[/quote]Every front office has to pick their battles. You have to let guys walk all the time with some potential.

You just want to avoid a trend of really talented players leaving. Landry had his wars with the training staff, and two years later we still have a questionable training staff and the Jets (what a great organization they are!) got a pro-bowl safety on a cheap deal. I do think the Colts overpaid him badly, for what its worth.

All in all, it doesn't seem to be a huge deal because we were able to get it together mid-way through last season, so I don't want to focus on the past. The Redskins have what looks to be a league-average roster in the present (not something they had in 2010, 2011 or pre-season 2012), but with some of the highest upside in the NFL at quarterback, which is the really big reason to be optimistic.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1015629]U can do anything on the internet now, and u r right. WHO CARES? As long as he isn't out getting arrested it's whatever. I don't really care if he talks to other chicks[/quote]

Photoshop is amazing

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[quote=SmootSmack;1015647]Photoshop is amazing[/quote]

I'd like to think that's what this is, but I highly doubt it unfortunately. Who know though...

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[quote=mbedner3420;1015648]I'd like to think that's what this is, but I highly doubt it unfortunately. Who know though...[/quote]

98% certain there's some serious photoshopping going on. Non story in my opinion

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If she isn't careful, she is going to get her ass sued out of her boob job.

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As long as one must stoop to producing fake photos, where are the photos of Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett together in compromising positions?

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I can guarantee they are fake based in the fact that I've seen them from her phone and I really don't think shed try to make fake photos. Basically she told me her and RG3 started as friends bc he met that mallow guy through twitter, she now thinks rg3 is a bit of a strange character/nerd and she is really rude to him now and wants to capitalize off his stupidity of sending some random girl off twitter, he has snapchats, facetimea, texts ect, i think its just a matter of time before the story blows up, but if he can still play football I honestly could care less, he can get all the side action he can handle lol

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Not fake* iPhone lol

Dude there is No crime against anything he does unless it's getting arrested and he won't get arrested for texting someone. I think it's a non story as well. Just some desperate chick working at hooters needing attention.

She sounds like quite the catch.

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[quote=Skinzman;1015595]T

There is no guarantee of anything, including two ACL tears means its going to happen once a year for the rest of his career.

Lets apply the injury angle across the board. Having back surgery can be difficult to come back from, especially for linemen. So is safe to say that JPP's career is over or that he will never be the same as he was early in his career? Or is that overstating things?[/quote]

No person said it(his knee injury) will happen once a year (a little dramatic don't ya think) but you must consider his position and the fact that he has had the same injury on the same knee twice now. As for JPP his career is not shot because of one injury(again you are dramatic) but if he has back surgery again to fix what was already done ,yes I would say he wasn't the same player. Yet as I said before the players position has a lot to do with the injury and whether a player can play with it or not.

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[quote=Pigskins;1015654]I can guarantee they are fake based in the fact that I've seen them from her phone and I really don't think shed try to make fake photos. Basically she told me her and RG3 started as friends bc he met that mallow guy through twitter, she now thinks rg3 is a bit of a strange character/nerd and she is really rude to him now and wants to capitalize off his stupidity of sending some random girl off twitter, he has snapchats, facetimea, texts ect, i think its just a matter of time before the story blows up, but if he can still play football I honestly could care less, he can get all the side action he can handle lol[/quote]

This is going to be expensive to cover up...

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Politicians lying husband (just like her).

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/Employees-of-UFL-Sacramento-team-sue-Paul-Pelosi-4667148.php]Employees of UFL Sacramento team sue Paul Pelosi - SFGate[/url]

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1015659]She sounds like quite the catch.[/QUOTE]

Pretty amazing all right. Millionaire is on his honeymoon and s lady comes out with the "scandalous expose" revealing widely known superstar was (deep breath) facetiming with her. OMG this is the end of his career/marriage/life.

Crazy world

[QUOTE=Pigskins;1015654]I can guarantee they are fake based in the fact that I've seen them from her phone and I really don't think shed try to make fake photos. Basically she told me her and RG3 started as friends bc he met that mallow guy through twitter, she now thinks rg3 is a bit of a strange character/nerd and she is really rude to him now and wants to capitalize off his stupidity of sending some random girl off twitter, he has snapchats, facetimea, texts ect, i think its just a matter of time before the story blows up, but if he can still play football I honestly could care less, he can get all the side action he can handle lol[/QUOTE]

Why are you looking at rg3's junk?

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[url=http://espn.go.com/videohub/video/clip?id=9480059&categoryid=2378529]Google Glass In The NFL - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

GOOGLE GLASS?

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[url=http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/07/13/Victor-Cruz-Zimmerman-Tweet]NY Giants WR Sends Threatening Tweet: 'Zimmerman Doesn't Last a Year Before the Hood Catches Up to Him'[/url]

After George Zimmerman was found not guilty of all charges on Saturday evening, New York Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz sent a threatening tweet that has since been deleted from his account.
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He tweeted, "Thoroughly confused. Zimmerman doesn't last a year before the hood catches up to him."[/SIZE][/B]

[img]http://www.breitbart.com/mediaserver/3640B80FC929402BB59CBF946C279EC5.jpg[/img]

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22774851/report-raiders-want-50000seat-800-million-stadium-in-oakland]Report: Raiders want 50,000-seat, $800 million stadium in Oakland - CBSSports.com[/url]

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Only 50,000 seats?

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If they wore less exotic costumes they'd be able to fit another 30,000.

Still, where are you going to find that many Raider fans willing to watch that crap?

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I just wonder if their seating capacity is suppressed due to fan intimidation. They're not going to get many visiting team fans and a lot of people probably do fear for their life in their own team's stadium.

Oakland is one city I'm staying far away from.

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Yeah oakland is a place i'll never watch a sporting event

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1015720][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22774851/report-raiders-want-50000seat-800-million-stadium-in-oakland]Report: Raiders want 50,000-seat, $800 million stadium in Oakland - CBSSports.com[/url][/quote]

There "plan" is hoping Oakland pitches in 300 million? lol, isnt Oakland ghetto and broke as hell?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1015729]I just wonder if their seating capacity is suppressed due to fan intimidation. They're not going to get many visiting team fans and a lot of people probably do fear for their life in their own team's stadium.

Oakland is one city I'm staying far away from.[/quote]

This is one way to avoid blackouts

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[quote=Monkeydad;1015729]I just wonder if their seating capacity is suppressed due to fan intimidation. They're not going to get many visiting team fans and a lot of people probably do fear for their life in their own team's stadium.

Oakland is one city I'm staying far away from.[/quote]

Oakland is a charming place. C'mon man


[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-20/oakland-pays-17-million-for-nfl-raiders-as-cops-get-cut.html]Oakland Pays $14 Million for NFL Raiders as Cops Fired - Bloomberg[/url]

[url=http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-zimmerman-acquittal-oakland-20130714,0,331163.story]Zimmerman acquittal protest in Oakland turns violent; no arrests made - latimes.com[/url]

[url=http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oakland-protesters-damage-transit-police-car-newspaper-offices-20130714,0,56071.story]Zimmerman verdict: Oakland protesters break windows, paint cars - latimes.com[/url]

[url=http://photos.mercurynews.com/2013/07/15/photos-third-night-of-protests-in-oakland-over-zimmerman-verdict/#1]Photos: Third night of protests in Oakland over Zimmerman verdict[/url]


[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/us/to-cut-crime-oakland-to-reduce-size-of-police-districts.html?pagewanted=all[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1015729]I just wonder if their seating capacity is suppressed due to fan intimidation. They're not going to get many visiting team fans and a lot of people probably do fear for their life in their own team's stadium.

Oakland is one city I'm staying far away from.[/quote]

So me and my GF are thinking about going to the Oakland game in Sept. It's pretty easy to get seats, beautiful part of the country and we have friends/family near there. I discussed this issue with her and she seems to think that's it's a non issue. Me on the other hand knows how the Oakland fans are and prefer not to go to the game.

Any of you been to any Oakland games in the past?? It looks like a pretty rough crowd.

Lol@ nc

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[quote=NC_Skins;1015741]Oakland is a charming place. C'mon man


[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-20/oakland-pays-17-million-for-nfl-raiders-as-cops-get-cut.html]Oakland Pays $14 Million for NFL Raiders as Cops Fired - Bloomberg[/url]

[url=http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-zimmerman-acquittal-oakland-20130714,0,331163.story]Zimmerman acquittal protest in Oakland turns violent; no arrests made - latimes.com[/url]

[url=http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oakland-protesters-damage-transit-police-car-newspaper-offices-20130714,0,56071.story]Zimmerman verdict: Oakland protesters break windows, paint cars - latimes.com[/url]

[url=http://photos.mercurynews.com/2013/07/15/photos-third-night-of-protests-in-oakland-over-zimmerman-verdict/#1]Photos: Third night of protests in Oakland over Zimmerman verdict[/url]


[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/us/to-cut-crime-oakland-to-reduce-size-of-police-districts.html?pagewanted=all[/url][/quote]

That NY Time article is a good read but disturbing to say the least.

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[quote=Chico23231;1015746]That NY Time article is a good read but disturbing to say the least.[/quote]From the article: “The 1995 deal didn’t work from a financial perspective for any party to the deal -- city, county or Raiders,” says Amy Trask, chief executive officer of the Raiders. “That shouldn’t stop us from trying to reach a deal that works for everyone.” "

I hate statements like that. The money obviously went somewhere. If the money really was lost instead: On disaster, unexpected expenses like say vandalism or lawsuits or lack of fan revenue, who knows... then how can Trask say that a deal that works is possible? :saywhat:

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[quote=RedskinRat;1015723]If they wore less exotic costumes they'd be able to fit another 30,000.

[B]Still, where are you going to find that many Raider fans willing to watch that crap?[/B][/quote]

Well a lot of people watch the Redskins when they were crap, so I am sure they'll find people.

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Oakland is no worse and it might be safer than some parts of DC. I like Raiders better than the Forty whiners.

I actually think reducing stadium size as a whole is a good idea. 50K might be too small but the 85K and larger stadiums lend themselves to being flooded by opposing team fans.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1015799]I actually think reducing stadium size as a whole is a good idea. 50K might be too small but the 85K and larger stadiums lend themselves to being flooded by opposing team fans.[/quote]A Pittsburgh buddy of mine swears nobody else "invades" Heinz field successfully, at about 70K seating capacity I think.

Maybe with PSLs and such, going to the game has become, more and more, only for the few people that can afford a lot?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1015742]So me and my GF are thinking about going to the Oakland game in Sept. It's pretty easy to get seats, beautiful part of the country and we have friends/family near there. I discussed this issue with her and she seems to think that's it's a non issue. Me on the other hand knows how the Oakland fans are and prefer not to go to the game.

Any of you been to any Oakland games in the past?? It looks like a pretty rough crowd.[/quote]

Never been, but as long as you go as incognito skins fans you should be ok...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1015799]I actually think reducing stadium size as a whole is a good idea. 50K might be too small but the 85K and larger stadiums lend themselves to being flooded by opposing team fans.[/quote]So who will cover the revenue loss of those seats, other fans ,the NFL ?Wasn't one reason the Raiders moved before was for a bigger fan base and stadium?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1015809]A Pittsburgh buddy of mine swears nobody else "invades" Heinz field successfully, at about 70K seating capacity I think. [/quote]

Wait till that team starts losing a few years in a row. That'll change.



[quote=CRedskinsRule;1015799]I actually think reducing stadium size as a whole is a good idea. 50K might be too small but the 85K and larger stadiums lend themselves to being flooded by opposing team fans.[/quote]

Owners don't care about that. Revenue is the main factor here.

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[quote=Giantone;1015828]So who will cover the revenue loss of those seats, other fans ,the NFL ?Wasn't one reason the Raiders moved before was for a bigger fan base and stadium?[/quote]

I obviously haven't studied the dynamics, but something that I think about is a 3D/IMAX broadcasting partnership with major movie chains, problem I imagine is most of the concession money would be lost, but maybe some creative businessmen could create models that work.

Maybe NFL could even build (or buy closed out) theaters and renovate them into "Satellite Stadiums" that hold Sunday/Monday/Thursday games, and that way they keep the concession money in house. Other days could be filled with feature films, especially in the summer months, and probably throw in NFL Films days too, where "Best of " regional team games are shown. In Skins country for example, a RFK size stadium, plus regional theater satellites in a few Richmond counties, PG County, Alexandria and Silver Springs, would probably all draw capacity crowds, and make the "at the stadium" experience better.

Satellite theaters make even more sense in rural cities where NFL fans rarely get to experience the feel of live action.

Again, maybe none of this is plausible, but I think it's worth considering over these mega-stadiums.



My guess is that losing the concession money is the biggest reason that stadiums won't shrink, and I don't know a solution to that.