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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1018531]I hear what you are saying, and a part of me has the same gut reaction, but I have to admit that it is pretty amazing as a Skins fan to have a spotlight on our qb, simply because he has all the characteristics of a superstar. Yes, he needs to hold up on the field, and yes he has to play well, but this guy has so far managed all the various pressures perfectly, imo. I am not sure if it was a tweet, or an article that I saw, where Griffin basically said, Look, as long as my teammates aren't offended, then let the media have it's day, but if they (his teammates) start being put off by it, he will end it. Seemed like a very mature response.[/quote]

It's not only the media stuff, it's like everytime he does a press conference, he has to throw his coach under the bus with his comments about being out on the field. I think he should be out there playing too, and practicing full go. But the coach doesn't want him to so respect that and just shut up. He's already shown he can't be trusted. Instead he has to constantly throw little jabs at Shanahan. I love RG3, but lately I've been seeing a little diva in him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1018572][url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/12/4613948/rg3-mike-shanahan-washington-redskins-2013-schedule-offense]Changing the driver: RGIII, Mike Shanahan and Washington's offense - SBNation.com[/url][/quote]

Same offense but just lining up in the pistol a lot of the time, I guess that's what throws people off in thinking it's a new offense.

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Media won't stop with the issues with "the plan" story.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406"]RG3, Shanahan have competitive frustration[/URL]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9560470/robert-griffin-iii-set-1st-full-team-drills-camp]Robert Griffin III set for 1st full-team drills of camp - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1018577]It's not only the media stuff, it's like everytime he does a press conference, he has to throw his coach under the bus with his comments about being out on the field. I think he should be out there playing too, and practicing full go. But the coach doesn't want him to so respect that and just shut up. He's already shown he can't be trusted. Instead he has to constantly throw little jabs at Shanahan. I love RG3, but [B]lately[/B] I've been seeing a little diva in him.[/quote]

Just lately eh?

He's no different than most great players from any sport. He knows he's the man and he wants to be out there. I like that he's chomping at the bit.

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[quote=Mattyk;1018579]Same offense but just lining up in the pistol a lot of the time, I guess that's what throws people off in thinking it's a new offense.[/quote]


exactly

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[quote=skinsfan69;1018577]It's not only the media stuff, it's like everytime he does a press conference, he has to throw his coach under the bus with his comments about being out on the field. I think he should be out there playing too, and practicing full go. But the coach doesn't want him to so respect that and just shut up. He's already shown he can't be trusted. Instead he has to constantly throw little jabs at Shanahan. I love RG3, but lately I've been seeing a little diva in him.[/quote]

He's 22/23 years old, a millionaire, married his college girl, adored by hundreds of thousands of fans (camp was ridiculous with everyone shouting out his name), and very good to great at his chosen profession. If he only has a little diva in him, then that's another amazing thing.

I really haven't heard him throw the coach under the bus. He's asked his opinion, which is that he wants to be out there now, in fact yesterday, but he acknowledges the coach makes the decision. Isn't that the appropriate use of boundaries? For him to say he has done everything he can, I think is a fair statement by all accounts. Now the coach has to make the decision for the team. How is that throwing the coach under the bus? He didn't storm out, and say if the coach doesn't put him in, he's holding out. He's not doing situps on his front lawn to show the coach up. He does what he can every day, and then lets the coach make the final call.

For me, that's the way it ought to be.

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Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers Etc. are also "Divas"

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Of course he's a diva and he wants to play, but this is getting a bit tired with him and the media. How bout RG3 keep quiet and just keep working at this point. We get it.

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I agree. RGIII should just say to the media, "We're following the recovery plan," and nothing more. I love his fire but in this case it need not be announced to the world. His "Coach says ___ but I say ____" schtick is the wrong approach.

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Cautious is the practical approach. Shanny is being cautious. Bob doesn't like cautious. He's young and wants to conquer the world. I am fine with the everything. Barring a setback he'll play week one and Shanny will have lived up to his part of the deal. That is all that matters.

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RGIII Not Happy with Shanahan's Plan.


[url=http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20130812/Redskins-RG3/]Redskins' RG3 still doesn't get Shanahan's plan | Comcast[/url]

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``There is no friction,'' he tweeted. ``There is an understanding between coach and player. That is all. Don't have to like everything''

Moving on.

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[url=http://www.sbnation.com/odds/2013/8/12/4614854/nfl-playoff-odds-super-bowl-ravens-make-playoffs]NFL playoff odds: Super Bowl champion Ravens won't make playoffs - SBNation.com[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1018589]Of course he's a diva and he wants to play, but this is getting a bit tired with him and the media. How bout RG3 keep quiet and just keep working at this point. We get it.[/quote]

Indeed

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1018572][url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/12/4613948/rg3-mike-shanahan-washington-redskins-2013-schedule-offense]Changing the driver: RGIII, Mike Shanahan and Washington's offense - SBNation.com[/url][/quote]

Really a good read of an article. Thanks

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Went to camp today. RGIII looked good in limited 7 on 7 drills. But, I mean, its just 7 on 7. Capt Kirk looked good in 11 on 11 drills. Hit some nice passes over the middle and checked down into the backfield when he needed to. Sexy Rexy was sexy as always. ;-) Pat White didn't look too hot. Except for one good run, he had several passes off target and would have taken a sack on a couple of occasions instead of rolling out of the pocket and throwing it away when the defensive coverage was good.

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[url=http://trainingcamp.blogs.timesdispatch.com/2013/08/12/redskins-lb-brian-orakpos-facemask-banned/]Redskins LB Brian Orakpo's facemask banned - Richmond Times-Dispatch[/url]

anybody see this? kinda sux, looked cool

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Lance Lewis > stallworth, Briscoe, hankerson. Went to ECU with him, he simply makes plays, he goes up and gets it and can make ppl miss and a smooth pass catcher with great hands the others do not IMO.

Nice pics skinzwin

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1018619]Nice pics skinzwin[/quote]

Thanks skinsfaninok, you can see why its top quality pictures, taken with my expensive photography equipment, an iphone5.

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lol headline tonight on NFL Total Access...

Discord in D.C.?

:doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;1018625]lol headline tonight on NFL Total Access...

Discord in D.C.?

:doh:[/quote]

Yeah a little overblown but they gotta keep you tuning in!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1018626]Yeah a little overblown but they gotta keep you tuning in![/quote]

It worked cause I watched lol

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[quote=Mattyk;1018627]It worked cause I watched lol[/quote]

Clowns. I bet it was all conjecture and garbage... ??

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[quote=SkinzWin;1018628]Clowns. I bet it was all conjecture and garbage... ??[/quote]

The story was fine, just a slightly misleading headline.

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[quote=Chico23231;1018589]Of course he's a diva and he wants to play, but this is getting a bit tired with him and the media. How bout RG3 keep quiet and just keep working at this point. We get it.[/quote]

I agree. To me, it still shows he hasn't learned shit about last year and he's still trying to prove to the world how tough he is. I respect the competitiveness in him, and I'd be the same way if I were him. However, he doesn't need to be discussing jack shit with the media in regards to his displeasure with the plan or anything related. Just tell them you feel great, you are looking forward to being out there, but consult Coach Shanahan if you want specifics about any timeline.


Look at Peyton Manning's situation his last year in Indy. There were reports that he was begging the coaching staff to play him in goal line situations (that didn't require the arm strength), but yet you never heard him bitching to the media about not liking the plan they had him on.

Just shut up Robert, and play football. You blew your opportunity to have any say in when you come back. In fact, he's largely responsible for him having the ACL injury to begin with.

That said, the media is most certainly blowing this up to be something it is not.

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Its going to be a story regardless. When he didnt say anything, the media was saying that he was lazy and didnt want to take part in TC. When he is saying something, its just a new spin on negativity. When he wasnt out talking the media shortly after his surgery, everyone complained of no news. Now that there is news, everyone is complaining that there is to much of it.

If he talks to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he doesnt talk to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he talks in a limited fashion to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he says to ask Shanny, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he speaks for himself, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3.

Im glad that he wants to play and im glad that Shanny is holding him back. The rest of the stuff is just noise. Learn to block out the random noise and there are no problems.

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The only issue here is that the media won't stop agitating and when asked he doesn't quite say the right words to end it. His articulation of his feelings is perhaps too revealing but his emotions are not out of line. All of this goes away week one. BTW they both earned all of the scrutiny fair and square when he marched onto the field against Seattle in the playoffs.

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[quote=Skinzman;1018634]Its going to be a story regardless. When he didnt say anything, the media was saying that he was lazy and didnt want to take part in TC. When he is saying something, its just a new spin on negativity. When he wasnt out talking the media shortly after his surgery, everyone complained of no news. Now that there is news, everyone is complaining that there is to much of it.

If he talks to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he doesnt talk to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he talks in a limited fashion to the media, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he says to ask Shanny, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3. If he speaks for himself, its because there is a rift between Shanny and RG3.

Im glad that he wants to play and im glad that Shanny is holding him back. The rest of the stuff is just noise. Learn to block out the random noise and there are no problems.[/quote]

Well said.

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NFLN has been trying hard to push this for weeks

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When did people call him lazy?

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Yeah Rob needs to mute himself. The decision to sit him in preseason has been made, that should include no dress rehearsal in warmups before games. He's only enabling the media and his own insubordination.
I believe his press statement saying, he'd have to be carried off the field to not be out there. Well, we've seen him helped off the field from his own selfishness to play, but I'm worried he's next going to need to be carried off kicking and screaming like a little girl having a tantrum in a dept. store.
I just feel he should stfu. Show some belief in Kirk to get a win in your absence and be a team player.

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I agree with the basic point the media is always going to look for a headline. Let's face it RG3's knee is going to be a story all year long. It's not going away no matter how much or how little anyone says about it. Better get used to it.

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Personally, I'd be more concerned if Griffin was content to not play until week 1. I think its the right decision and I'm sure Griffin knows it to, but like he said, it doesn't mean he has to like it.

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[quote=Mattyk;1018644]I agree with the basic point the media is always going to look for a headline. Let's face it RG3's knee is going to be a story all year long. It's not going away no matter how much or how little anyone says about it. Better get used to it.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1018632]I agree. To me, it still shows he hasn't learned shit about last year and he's still trying to prove to the world how tough he is. I respect the competitiveness in him, and I'd be the same way if I were him. However, he doesn't need to be discussing jack shit with the media in regards to his displeasure with the plan or anything related. Just tell them you feel great, you are looking forward to being out there, but consult Coach Shanahan if you want specifics about any timeline.


Look at Peyton Manning's situation his last year in Indy. There were reports that he was begging the coaching staff to play him in goal line situations (that didn't require the arm strength), but yet you never heard him bitching to the media about not liking the plan they had him on.

Just shut up Robert, and play football. You blew your opportunity to have any say in when you come back. In fact, he's largely responsible for him having the ACL injury to begin with.

That said, the media is most certainly blowing this up to be something it is not.[/quote]

I'll say this about RG3, he reminds me of Theismann a little bit. He's got some Hollywood in him, loves the limelight, he's a diva, pretty selfish...but he might be the toughest guy on the team and you have to break his leg off to get him out of the game. I want that in my QB. I'd much rather have a guy like that, than a guy like Jay Cutler.

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Phlilip Thomas visiting 2nd doc to get opinion on his sprain.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8540/phillip-thomas]Phillip Thomas - Washington Redskins - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

I'm a little nervous about this...could miss some major time if it's the wrong kind of sprain. With Meriweather's history, we need Thomas to be ready to step in.

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[URL="http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2013/08/rg3-gq-cover-story-interview-outtakes.html"]The RG3 Outtakes from his GQ Cover Story: The Q: GQ[/URL]

[B]Best friend on the team?[/B]
"I'm trying to think. I'm a natural loner. I can hang out with everybody, but I don't have a best friend. Let me think. Oh. Probably [cornerback] Richard Crawford."
[B]Scariest defensive player in the league?[/B]
"I'd have to go in our division: DeMarcus Ware. I don't ever fear a player, but D Ware, he got me good twice last year. Took my head off."

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[quote=SmootSmack;1018641]When did people call him lazy?[/quote]

I think thats the assumption the media is trying to imply when talking heads state RG3 doesnt like tc and doesnt want to work in tc. I think it was Dukes who originally said that a couple weeks ago. Obviously far from the truth. No one ever said he was lazy.

Florio filling in for Dan Patrick lead the show today with soundbites from RG3 presser and then right into the assumptions room trying to interpret the real frustrations are from how things were handled at the end of last season have lead to this tension in tc. I dont know, turned the channel as i parked for work. If im tired of anything, its about how last season ended...apparently some havent even moved on from that...

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Like Matty said, there would be a headline involving Griffin/Shanny/Andrews no matter what the story line was. Griffin is a media magnet. And the Skins under Shanallen have not shown themselves to be media averse - AH conditioning comes to mind. I do think they ought to consider reducing media availability of Griffin for the next 2 weeks, but then the story would be that they aren't letting him talk, and rumors of discontent would swirl. At least this way, everybody's opinions and positions are clearly defined, and when Week 1 comes around and Griffin starts, this will all be water under the bridge.