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Just fire him now, this is so out of control it's not funny.

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Cousins shouldnt be starting and not for the rest of the year.

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Beyond the BS...

I'm fully in favor of sitting RG3 down for the season. I think it really is, as Mike said, In the best interest of the Redskins. RG3 is fully healthy, has his offseason and in a perfect world, Cousins tears it up for three games, gets traded for a 2nd round pick or higher.

Of course the circus surroudning it sucks, but I actually would be in favor of that... or let RG3 play indoors against ATL and then sit him down the final two.

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[quote=calia;1047411]Has this ever happened before? Benching a starter out of concern that your O-line is so crappy that he might get hurt?

Imagine if you play on that O-line and your coach says that.

Man, this circus cannot end soon enough.[/quote]

An o-line he put together no less.

He has no problems playing Griffin in a snow storm, but is now concerned about him playing on turf?

C'mon. F off Mike, just F off.

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It sounds as if people are ripping into Mike a little too much... When you have several Veteran players backing Mike, and have taken shots at RGIII just a few weeks ago, combine that with watching Synder operate this team the past 14 years, I blame RGIII and Dan more than Mike...

Mike benching RGIII for Cousins is just an extra Fuck You to Dan and Company...

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1047413]Great political move by Shanny: "Cut me now DS and it will look like you wanted to play favorites."

Any shred of respect I had for the guy is gone.

Dan should very publicly announce that, <SNIP>[/QUOTE]

JR, you should be an attorney or something.


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[quote=RedskinRat;1047419]JR, you should be an attorney or something.[/quote]

I'll look into it.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1047421]I'll look into it.[/QUOTE]

:sly:

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In response to the Shanny remark about Cousins, an even simpler response from Dan:

"As I have felt since first hiring him, I fully support M.Shanahan in his coaching decisions. As has been true since his first offseason here, Mike is entitled to have full and ultimate control of the product he puts out on the field."

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[quote=Gmanc711;1047416]Beyond the BS...

I'm fully in favor of sitting RG3 down for the season. I think it really is, as Mike said, In the best interest of the Redskins. RG3 is fully healthy, has his offseason [B]and in a perfect world, Cousins tears it up for three games, gets traded for a 2nd round pick or higher.[/B]

Of course the circus surroudning it sucks, but I actually would be in favor of that... or let RG3 play indoors against ATL and then sit him down the final two.[/quote]

And in this F'd up Redskins world, Cousins goes out and struggles and his trade value plummets. Just one last final F you courtesy of Mike.

Doesn't matter who plays QB, with all the drama there's no room for success. It's a toxic environment right now with failure written all over it.

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Enjoy this trainwreck guys. The press conference in case you missed it.

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Sitting RGIII is the right thing to do. BRING ON OUR SAVIOR REX!

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Quick, where's Pat White?

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[quote=Mattyk;1047429]Quick, where's Pat White?[/quote]

Check the local McDonalds.

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Well, I do agree with keeping RGIII healthy for next year, but Mike Shanahan has just admitted that he and his coaching staff did such a poor job of putting together a competent offensive line that he's not willing to play his franchise quarterback for the sake of getting him hurt. But, he's OK with playing Kirk Cousins. LOL! Wow. Just Wow.

Snyder needs to do the right thing and do it this week. Fire Mike early this week so the remaining coaches have some time to put together a gameplan for the weekend. This needs to happen right away.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1047417]An o-line he put together no less.

He has no problems playing Griffin in a snow storm, but is now concerned about him playing on turf?

C'mon. F off Mike, just F off.[/QUOTE]

Didnt think he should have sat out when he was playing with one leg behind the same offensive line against a ferocious Seattle D either.

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[quote=Mattyk;1047429]Quick, where's Pat White?[/quote]

And Jabar Gaffney, I don't think the NFL could handle all that speed at once.

[QUOTE=Fiversons;1047418]It sounds as if people are ripping into Mike a little too much... When you have several Veteran players backing Mike, and have taken shots at RGIII just a few weeks ago, combine that with watching Synder operate this team the past 14 years, I blame RGIII and Dan more than Mike...

Mike benching RGIII for Cousins is just an extra Fuck You to Dan and Company...[/QUOTE]

And Mikes been a terrible coach for his last 15 years of coaching, is about to get fired for the second time in six years, and has drafted mostly shit since he has been here so whats your point?

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Much as I think the MS deal is done, I fully expect for DS to give Shanny his full year. Mike has filled the coaching roster with his guys. Just removing Mike (and Kyle) would not remedy anything and could "poison the well" even worse by leaving Shanahan's assistants around to turn players against each other and Snyder. Removing all of Shanahan's guys would likely leave the team unable to function on the most basic level and could even endanger players health.

Dan gives Mike all the rope he wants and lets him hang around for three weeks ... then press conference, thank you, good bye.

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If RG3 was playing good football then he'd finish out the season. This is part performance based and part sticking it to Snyder. Not sure if Cousins is going to do any better w/ roller skates playing right tackle.

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[quote=punch it in;1047434]And Mikes been a terrible coach for his last 15 years of coaching, is about to get fired for the second time in six years, and has drafted mostly shit since he has been here so whats your point?[/quote]

My point is that he is doing this hoping Snyder fires him so he can collect his money next year. It's a big Fuck You from Mike to Snyder... And that Mike is not the only one to blame... Where is you anger for Snyder and RGIII? Where is the outrage at a young QB that needs to shut his mouth, take responsiblity for his crappy year and not throw other teammates under the bus or at an owner that continues to have "personal realtionships" with star players that ruins morale? Express your outrage for those things, then I will join you in slamming Shanny...

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[quote=punch it in;1047379]Well two things are true.
1) it cannot get worse than this
2) it can only get better than this[/quote]

Matt Millen/Vinny/0-14 Buccaneers/0-16 Lions says you are wrong.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1047426]Enjoy this trainwreck guys. The press conference in case you missed it.

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I'm embarrassed to be a skins fan yet again

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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1047440]My point is that he is doing this hoping Snyder fires him so he can collect his money next year. It's a big Fuck You from Mike to Snyder... And that Mike is not the only one to blame... Where is you anger for Snyder and RGIII? Where is the outrage at a young QB that needs to shut his mouth, take responsiblity for his crappy year and not throw other teammates under the bus or at an owner that continues to have "personal realtionships" with star players that ruins morale? Express your outrage for those things, then I will join you in slamming Shanny...[/QUOTE]

I have extreme outrage for Dan Snyder, unfortunately he isnt going anywhere so I learned a long time ago to leave that anger alone. On top of that, Snyder has been invisible for four years until MS found himself on the hotseat and all of the sudden there is this crap ass soap opera bullshit about him and RG-3 being in bed together and undermining Mike? Bullshit. Mike lost the ship because he is a poor coach/draft guy and now is grasping for straws. Griff is a 24 year old kid getting his ass handed to him on a weekly basis because of the pourous oline Mike built in front of him. Even if they are all to blame I expect more couth from my headcoach than i do from a 24 year old kid or from an owner. Fuck Mike and the horse he rode in on.

[QUOTE=mooby;1047441]Matt Millen/Vinny/0-14 Buccaneers/0-16 Lions says you are wrong.[/QUOTE]

0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.

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[quote=punch it in;1047448]0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.[/quote]

Yeah, I don't think anything is worst than being 0-16.

Actually there is, being 0-16 in a big market like Washington or New York.

Things are very bad for our team, but let's not be over dramatic here.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1047452]Yeah, I don't think anything is worst than being 0-16.

Actually there is, being 0-16 in a big market like Washington or New York.

Things are very bad for our team, but let's not be over dramatic here.[/QUOTE]

I was responding sarcastically to Moobys post, but honestly are three meaningless wins better than this drama going on in DC? My point was that if we were 0-16 and playing with a purpose atleast - not throwing each other under the bus, etc, I would feel better than I do about this team rite now.

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[quote=punch it in;1047457]I was responding sarcastically to Moobys post, but honestly are three meaningless wins better than this drama going on in DC? My point was that if we were 0-16 and playing with a purpose atleast - not throwing each other under the bus, etc, I would feel better than I do about this team rite now.[/quote]

I see what you are saying, but all everyone remembers from that Lions' season is that they went 0-16.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1047459]I see what you are saying, but all everyone remembers from that Lions' season is that they went 0-16.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. I dont want to be 0-16 just because i am a fan. I will take 1-15 minus the bologna in a heartbeat though.

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\[quote=punch it in;1047446]I have extreme outrage for Dan Snyder, unfortunately he isnt going anywhere so I learned a long time ago to leave that anger alone. On top of that, Snyder has been invisible for four years until MS found himself on the hotseat and all of the sudden there is this crap ass soap opera bullshit about him and RG-3 being in bed together and undermining Mike? Bullshit. Mike lost the ship because he is a poor coach/draft guy and now is grasping for straws. Griff is a 24 year old kid getting his ass handed to him on a weekly basis because of the pourous oline Mike built in front of him. Even if they are all to blame I expect more couth from my headcoach than i do from a 24 year old kid or from an owner. Fuck Mike and the horse he rode in on.[/quote]

I agree... Mike deserves to fired twice over... The whole thing stinks, and I blame all of them... And to think this last year was an aberration... It just sucks to be in the same boat what seems like a 4 to 5 year cycle of suckiness, then we get hot and make a good run, really feel positive about moving forward just for the same thing to happen...

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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1047465]\

I agree... Mike deserves to fired twice over... The whole thing stinks, and I blame all of them... And to think this last year was an aberration... It just sucks to be in the same boat what seems like a 4 to 5 year cycle of suckiness, then we get hot and make a good run, really feel positive about moving forward just for the same thing to happen...[/QUOTE]

Yup. Its brutal. I really thought we had turned a corner. We were getting Rak, and Carriker, and BW back. Another year in the 3-4 under our belts. Consistency in the coaching staff. Griff was gonna b healthy and even if he wasnt ready for week one I liked what I saw out of Cousins and felt confident he would do until Griff was ready. We had addressed the secondary through the draft. Seemed like a 10-6 team that was trouncing Seattle until Griffs injury was going to only get better. I mean we didnt lose anyone. Than - Bam - week one we got our asses handed to us and never recovered. By far the most dissapointing season Ive witnessed imo.

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[quote=punch it in;1047448]0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.[/quote]Didn't teams that went 0-14 and 0-16 have the same controversy over the team quitting? Coaches job security? Fans taking out billboards to beg a coach or owner be replaced? Seems to me you don't get a worse record than us without the team quitting or everybody being embarrassed.

This is still disgraceful, it just hurts more because it's happening to us, and we shouldn't tolerate it.

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1047469]Didn't teams that went 0-14 and 0-16 have the same controversy over the team quitting? Coaches job security? Fans taking out billboards to beg a coach or owner be replaced? Seems to me you don't get a worse record than us without the team quitting or everybody being embarrassed.

This is still disgraceful, it just hurts more because it's happening to us, and we shouldn't tolerate it.[/QUOTE]

Im not saying those teams were good. Those teams however were not coming off of 10-6, division winning seasons, in situations where things seemed to be on the upswing. Ofcourse coaches lose their jobs when they have seasons like that, but there aint circus music playing in the background. I dont really remember that Bucs team, but I bet they fought tooth and nail for a W up till the end. I do not remember the Lions quitting either. They just sucked. This is different. If anything I compare us more to the current Texans, Falcons teams in terms of dissapointment. But even there it is not a God damn media circus like it is here.

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[quote=punch it in;1047470]Im not saying those teams were good. Those teams however were not coming off of 10-6, division winning seasons, in situations where things seemed to be on the upswing. Ofcourse coaches lose their jobs when they have seasons like that, but there aint circus music playing in the background. I dont really remember that Bucs team, but I bet they fought tooth and nail for a W up till the end. I do not remember the Lions quitting either. They just sucked. This is different. If anything I compare us more to the current Texans, Falcons teams in terms of dissapointment. But even there it is not a God damn media circus like it is here.[/quote]Yeah, like Mike said in his presser, Atlanta's got the same record with a bigger let down than we have.

I blame the same thing for the circus now, as the circuses in years past. It starts with our owner, and ends with the media and fans. That's been the case before Shanahan, and probably afterwards. LOL at the same media fanning the flames of our situation asking Shanny and others "Gee, why is there so much talk in the media about this controversy?"

To be fair, I haven't heard Snyder say anything bad about this situation, just media rumors. We'll see what happens.

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i think mike did well in the press conference under the circumstances.

i think it is not as bad as we are thinking and speculating.

i think mike and bruce did a good job drafting.

im guessing a regime change will happen after week 17.

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[quote=over the mountain;1047530]......

i think it is not as bad as we are thinking and speculating.

......[/quote]

Dude, really?

I have always prided myself in the fact that I will wear my Skins gear after a loss as much as I would after a win. I am no fair weather fan, but I couldn't do it today. It is just too hard to deal with today. [B]The Skins are an embarrassment.[/B] There is no nice way to say that. It is not the "Chicken Little" group overreacting. [B]The Washington Redskins are the worst organization in the NFL, right now.[/B] It is a fact.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1047452]Yeah, I don't think anything is worst than being 0-16.

Actually there is, being 0-16 in a big market like Washington or New York.

Things are very bad for our team, but let's not be over dramatic here.[/quote]

I would rather be 0-16,[U][B] if [/B][/U]the Skins had a first round pick next year.