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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1179230]Neither were upsets. So fake news[/QUOTE]Exactly. But the media lemmings are doing their best to obscure that fact. See G1's post for a prime example.

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Upsets or not it’s still relevant news.

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[quote=Giantone;1179231]Wrong again Chico.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/2017-us-election-highlights/index.html]Democrats sweep in Virginia, New Jersey - CNNPolitics[/url]


[url=http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/10/trumps_all_in_for_virginia_not_for_nj_in_governors_races.html]Trump's all in for Republican in Virginia governor race. Not so for Guadagno in N.J. | NJ.com[/url][U][/U]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/07/winners-and-losers-from-election-day-2017/?utm_term=.d889e7f4a552[/url][/quote]

NJ and VA have been blue states in statewide elections? What are you missing?

Simple biased media reports...ok go to your bubble, your safe place.

Northam back to track from support of sanctuary cities to now his stance to eliminate any thought of sanctuary cities.....helped him.

When it comes down to my state, we are in a pretty good shape because of balance from both sides. Democrats here are the moderate of the most moderates in the country...and that's a fact historically. Low state taxes, good mix within the economy, and overall good diversity within the state, Guilesppi vs Northam in the big picture doesn't really move the needle.

Any other lessons today based on facts and not liberal fake news media, just reach out and post. thanks bud

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[quote=MTK;1179233]Upsets or not it’s still relevant news.[/quote]

not really, from a federal point of view or statewide for either NJ or VA. It really isn't...huge news if either would have gone for a GOP nominee.

Northam is a moderate of moderates...he had to switch positions to win.

But a win is a win.

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Last year's presidential map for VA
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg/343px-Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg.png[/IMG]
Last night's map for VA
[URL="https://www.cnn.com/election/2017/"][IMG]https://dohdeick6sqa6.cloudfront.net/screenshots/production/live-governor-counties/51@lg.png?t=2017-11-08T14:34:25.613Z[/IMG][/URL]

You have to click to go to CNN, but the bottom line is that the vote last night was nearly identical to the vote a year ago. Trump didn't win the state, and Gillespie didn't either. If you want to make a story of it, you could easily make it one along the lines of, Even with all Trump's negative media his voters stayed with him.

The same is true in NJ. The districts broke down in similar line with the 2016 election.


To Matty's point, it is relevant because elections always are, but it's not shocking, or an upset, or a trend away from Trump in the electorate of these states.

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^ exactly...the spin is egregious.

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While the districts voted the same way in terms of winner/losers, the voter turnout was higher for both the Democratic and Republican candidates.

In 2013, approximately 2,240,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.
In 2017, approximately 2,600,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.

While both major candidate parties gained significant votes, the Dems gained almost 350K in votes, while the Republican gained only 150K (meanwhile, Libertarian candidate went from 140K to 12K.

I would suggest Trump's 2016 win was fueled in some party by significant voter apathy from the left. Pretty sure that ain't happening in 2020. Not sure what the next three years hold, but pretty sure the country is going to continue with its polarization.

My prediction: Increased chauvinism on the right, increased identity politics on the left, and a continued decline in intellectual debate and the competition of ideas.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1179255]While the districts voted the same way in terms of winner/losers, the voter turnout was higher for both the Democratic and Republican candidates.

In 2013, approximately 2,240,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.
In 2017, approximately 2,600,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.

While both major candidate parties gained significant votes, the Dems gained almost 350K in votes, while the Republican gained only 150K (meanwhile, Libertarian candidate went from 140K to 12K.

I would suggest Trump's 2016 win was fueled in some party by significant voter apathy from the left. Pretty sure that ain't happening in 2020. Not sure what the next three years hold, but pretty sure the country is going to continue with its polarization.

My prediction: [B]Increased chauvinism on the right, increased identity politics on the left, and a continued decline in intellectual debate and the competition of ideas.[/B][/quote]

and continued ad revenue for major media companies. Because they chose the content to sow discontent. It would be fun to focus on education, energy, immigration and hard extremely complex issues. But fuck that, let’s talk about what frat wore a non pc Halloween costumes that went viral. Fuckin country full of morons.

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I agree with you on that Chico.

I also don't think the real story is Northam winning, it's the swing of seats in the House of Delegates. Not sure who has the majority now, but I know the left gained some seats.

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[quote=mooby;1179261]I agree with you on that Chico.

I also don't think the real story is Northam winning, it's the swing of seats in the House of Delegates. Not sure who has the majority now, but I know the left gained some seats.[/quote]

Real story is where is the transgender dude gonna pee in the state capital? Get your popcorn ready for for more shit that affects no one but a minute minority while the kids of Richmond City get some of the worst public education on the east coast. Fuck’m, they’re just kids.

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[quote=MTK;1179233]Upsets or not it’s still relevant news.[/quote]

.........and definitely "not fake".

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[quote=Giantone;1179267].........and definitely "not fake".[/quote]

It's fake if it is given as some sort of proof that the electorate is turning or starkly different then last year.

If you want to argue about the term fake, then let's say the tenor of the opinion pieces is another reason why many, including me, see an immense bias in the media.

The fact that the expected winners won is not fake news. To make more of it then that either is a display of opinionated bias, or falsehoods disguised as fact.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1179255]While the districts voted the same way in terms of winner/losers, the voter turnout was higher for both the Democratic and Republican candidates.

In 2013, approximately 2,240,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.
In 2017, approximately 2,600,000 voters participated in the gubernatorial election.

While both major candidate parties gained significant votes, the Dems gained almost 350K in votes, while the Republican gained only 150K (meanwhile, Libertarian candidate went from 140K to 12K.

[B]I would suggest Trump's 2016 win was fueled in some party by significant voter apathy from the left. [/B] Pretty sure that ain't happening in 2020. Not sure what the next three years hold, but pretty sure the country is going to continue with its polarization.

My prediction: Increased chauvinism on the right, increased identity politics on the left, and a continued decline in intellectual debate and the competition of ideas.[/quote]

I agree about the apathy, but I also think it was fueled by the demonization of those who hold values contrary to the progressive movement's appointed ones. I think that and a growing economy will push more away from the extreme wing of the Democratic party that has overtaken it.

With that being said, your a stinkhead, and you write too many big words so your bad!!!:cheeky:

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How do you not feel embarrassed with this man representing you.









This is right on the money.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPnj9L-Pkx8[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1179271]How do you not feel embarrassed with this man representing you.









This is right on the money.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPnj9L-Pkx8[/URL][/quote]

As long as the economy improves, man can do no wrong. Haven't you been paying attention?

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[quote=mooby;1179273]As long as the economy improves, man can do no wrong. Haven't you been paying attention?[/quote]

The deplorable that elected trump.


[url]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1179273]As long as the economy improves, man can do no wrong. Haven't you been paying attention?[/quote]
You mean Obama's economy?

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[quote=Giantone;1179275]You mean Obama's economy?[/quote]

Nah, Obama's was garbage. Trump is the real deal.

Economy > literally everything else. He could come out and say white people are the master race and nothing would change.

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[quote=mooby;1179276]Nah, Obama's was garbage. Trump is the real deal.

Economy > literally everything else. He could come out and say white people are the master race and nothing would change.[/quote]

That's my point trump has done nothing but ride out what Obama put into place.

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[quote=Giantone;1179277]That's my point trump has done nothing but ride out what Obama put into place.[/quote]

Lol just wow. Giantone you are awesome.

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[quote=Chico23231;1179280]Lol just wow. Giantone you are awesome.[/quote]

This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?

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[quote=Chico23231;1179280]Lol just wow. Giantone you are awesome.[/quote]

Okay , you think I'm incorrect ,prove me wrong.What polocies is it that trump has put into place to create such a strong economy or at least make it better than Obama's.What is it that trump has done exactly?

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[quote=mooby;1179284]This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?[/quote]

It’s well documented that the entire recovery strategy was mostly that of the Fed. The stimulus bill that was in the works before obama and easily passed with with bipartisan support. Bailouts, healthcare, low interest rates, etc...we can pick but not worth it.

The “great” recovery was the slowest and maybe the worst all time. Somethings were simply out of the locus of control of policy makers, such as an aging population, ie workforce.

As an entirety, the economy recovery really depended on where you were. Here in Virginia...we didn’t feel the brunt because of our leverage of a lot of federal jobs, military, next to the swamp-paid by taxpayers-shithole fake DC economy, leveraged against a beautiful tax policy for both individuals and businesses(thank gop legislators here in va for that).

So sure obama did an ok job, but business leaders across the country agree that the growth was slow, choked, wage growth was a negative (that’s your wealth distribution from the middle class to the poor, ie obama welfare), over regulation, poor trade deals, jobs leaving for overseas, combine with a foreign policy which was absolute shit left a lot of People from the American blue collar worker to the American ceo without a lot of optimism. That’s why trump got elected.

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[quote=Chico23231;1179288]It’s well documented that the entire recovery strategy was mostly that of the Fed. The stimulus bill that was in the works before obama and easily passed with with bipartisan support. Bailouts, healthcare, low interest rates, etc...we can pick but not worth it.

The “great” recovery was the slowest and maybe the worst all time. Somethings were simply out of the locus of control of policy makers, such as an aging population, ie workforce.

As an entirety, the economy recovery really depended on where you were. Here in Virginia...we didn’t feel the brunt because of our leverage of a lot of federal jobs, military, next to the swamp-paid by taxpayers-shithole fake DC economy, leveraged against a beautiful tax policy for both individuals and businesses(thank gop legislators here in va for that).

So sure obama did an ok job, but business leaders across the country agree that the growth was slow, choked, wage growth was a negative (that’s your wealth distribution from the middle class to the poor, ie obama welfare), over regulation, poor trade deals, jobs leaving for overseas, combine with a foreign policy which was absolute shit left a lot of People from the American blue collar worker to the American ceo without a lot of optimism. That’s why trump got elected.[/quote]

So you have said what Obama did,like or not ,what has trump done exactly?


Oh and that is not why trump got elected.

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[quote=mooby;1179284]This should be an interesting argument. Where is the line of "this economy is Obama's fault" and "this improved economy is because of Trump" and how did you reach that conclusion?[/quote]

All of this. Would it make sense to start a “what has trump tangibly done?” Thread?

Like I just want the facts. I’m gleaning some stuff from unbiased sources and he hasn’t done shit that’s beyond self fellatating or being a fat fuck who acts like he’s tough but had the thinnest skin of anyone of all time.

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I can tell you what he's done, according to some guy who has a Secret Service agent giving him inside info. Trump apparently likes his steaks well done with ketchup lolol.

Now before you snowflakes get upset about me cracking a joke about what Trump likes to eat, recognize at best it's a joke, at worst it's irrelevant to this discussion. In the words of some white guy, chillax.

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I said earlier, a lot of what Trump has done is in the realm of "think positive talk" to the stock market and companies. Very much in line with a supply side economic model, he has, through the bully pulpit of the Presidency, made corporations believe that they would be keeping more of their profits through lower taxes, and they would have to deal with a less burdensome regulatory environment. All of which has spurred the up tick in growth and market conditions we are seeing.

I will add that if the Republican congress doesn't come through with bills that enact Trump's statements you could see rapid drop in both the stock market and the economy as a whole.

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[quote=Giantone;1179289]So you have said what Obama did,like or not ,what has trump done exactly?


Oh and that is not why trump got elected.[/quote]

Oh you wrong, that is exactly why voters chose him.

Trump has certainly energized the economy...CEO/Boards optimism shot thru the roof about many things: de-reg, loosen restricted compliance and govt interference, low tax environment, financials loosen cash/lending more, etc...

This drives major decisions, everything from hiring, expansion, risk environment mitigation, instead of hoarding cash...companies reinvest and drives loan portfolios, simply more cash up and down, etc.

I told you before I know someone in who said in my area, 3 major construction project green lit after trump elected. Hadnt seen that in years...maybe 1 a year.

OHHHH and the liberals who whined about "brexit" which you don't know why, you were just told to whine like bitches because the media said so....Brexit effect hasn't been bad at all. You got lied too...European economy hasn't sunk or shrunk.

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[quote=Chico23231;1179309]Oh you wrong, that is exactly why voters chose him.

Trump has certainly energized the economy...CEO/Boards optimism shot thru the roof about many things: de-reg, loosen restricted compliance and govt interference, low tax environment, financials loosen cash/lending more, etc...

This drives major decisions, everything from hiring, expansion, risk environment mitigation, instead of hoarding cash...companies reinvest and drives loan portfolios, simply more cash up and down, etc.

I told you before I know someone in who said in my area, 3 major construction project green lit after trump elected. Hadnt seen that in years...maybe 1 a year.

OHHHH and the liberals who whined about "brexit" which you don't know why, you were just told to whine like bitches because the media said so....Brexit effect hasn't been bad at all. You got lied too...European economy hasn't sunk or shrunk.[/quote]

Brexit hasn't even gone into effect yet, and won't for at least another year. So yeah...

Also, as for your economy statement, I am absolutely not sitting here saying Trump hasn't improved the economy.

All I'm saying is every other sin is forgiveable to you/his fanbase as long as the economy improves.

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[quote=mooby;1179348]Brexit hasn't even gone into effect yet, and won't for at least another year. So yeah...

Also, as for your economy statement, I am absolutely not sitting here saying Trump hasn't improved the economy.

All I'm saying is every other sin is forgiveable to you/his fanbase as long as the economy improves.[/quote]

I certainly am a Trump supporter, and I guess I would have to say yes - so far.

I haven't seen anything at all that rises to the amount of hysterical coverage he has received. Admittedly, I tend to ignore his grandiose hyperbole, and try to look at the point he is making, so when he says it's the greatest blahdeblah ever, I ignore that statement nearly every time. And I support the basics of his agenda, even (maybe especially) the ones that the liberal progressive group decry as ending the world as we know it.

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Just curious, how do you feel about the wall? He’s had a lot of hair-brained shit he’s talked about but that one baffles me.

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Also, thank you for your opinion. It feels like no one admits they voted for him. I still detest him as a human being.

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[quote=mooby;1179348]Brexit hasn't even gone into effect yet, and won't for at least another year. So yeah...

Also, as for your economy statement, I am absolutely not sitting here saying Trump hasn't improved the economy.

All I'm saying is every other sin is forgiveable to you/his fanbase as long as the economy improves.[/quote]

Chico , Brexit???


Lets look at trump s hiring.............

[url=http://fortune.com/2017/06/23/boeing-president-trump-south-carolina-jobs/]Donald Trump: Boeing Factory Announced Layoffs[/url]



[url=http://www.fox29.com/news/final-round-of-layoffs-planned-at-carrier-plant-trump-promised-to-save]Final round of layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save - Story | WTXF[/url]


Wall Street.
[url]https://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/538354967/why-the-stock-market-s-rise-isn-t-just-a-trump-rally[/url]
From July


"But there are other forces driving the stock rally "that are not attributable to Trump, at all," Siegel says. One is faster global growth. That, combined with a recent decline in the value of the dollar, has sparked more demand for U.S. goods abroad, helping boost U.S. company profits.

"Almost 40 percent of the profits of S&P 500 companies come from abroad," Siegel says. So, a stronger global economy is boosting U.S. stock prices.

U.S. growth is still sluggish — a 1.4 percent rate in the first quarter — and far below the Trump administration's goal of 3 percent.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1179353]Also, thank you for your opinion. It feels like no one admits they voted for him. I still detest him as a human being.[/quote]
Am a registered republican but I know him from NY and more from Atlantic City, he is the type of person that after he leaves a room people check their pockets to make sure they weren't robbed and then they want to take a shower.He really is that big a scum bag.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1179352]Just curious, how do you feel about the wall? He’s had a lot of hair-brained shit he’s talked about but that one baffles me.[/quote]

I have no problem with the wall. First, I tend to think that people who oppose it fall in two categories[LIST][*]One group wants to see it in the most simplistic form and then criticize from that. What I mean by that is a concrete slab that extends from one side to another with another with no camera's, electronic barrier detection, or other techniques that would enhance the ability of the border patrol. They frame it as a 10 foot concrete slab, period.
[*]The other group tends to frame it as somehow equivalent to the Soviet wall.[/LIST]
The Soviet wall comparison is basically nutty, their wall was designed to keep people in, and guarded with shoot to kill instructions. The Great American Wall (lol my term) would be more the modern day descendant from the Great Wall of China, or in European terms, the walls of the great cities of medieval times.

As for the first group, I would say that a simplistic concrete slab would be a fool's errand. But, an [B][U]effective[/U][/B] wall - and the US has plenty of companies who know how to build effective walls - would incorporate anti-tunneling designs, along with incorporated cameras and encroachment detection systems and have a somewhat pleasing appearance.

I think of it like this, If I lived in a neighborhood, where I constantly have to worry about my property line being accidentally encroached, I would build a simple fence and trust that would keep the neighbors off. If I live in a neighborhood where it's a little rougher, but has a good police presence, maybe I use some stronger material, or put cameras up at the corners. But IF I lived in a neighborhood where the police are overwhelmed, and I know they won't respond in a timely manner, and I consider my family's welfare at risk, I will build the strongest fence possible, and have a good old German Shepherd out and hungry.

Our southern border certainly falls somewhere between the middle to bad end of the spectrum, and if you buid the wall right, it would both be a source of United States accomplishment, and of protection for our country.

I can't imagine any other country ridiculing it's elected leader about attempting to secure the nation's borders, ESPECIALLY when that was a primary part of the elected candidate's platform, and was clearly a part of the election victory.

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[quote=Giantone;1179355]Chico , Brexit???


Lets look at trump s hiring.............

[url=http://fortune.com/2017/06/23/boeing-president-trump-south-carolina-jobs/]Donald Trump: Boeing Factory Announced Layoffs[/url]



[url=http://www.fox29.com/news/final-round-of-layoffs-planned-at-carrier-plant-trump-promised-to-save]Final round of layoffs planned at Carrier plant Trump promised to save - Story | WTXF[/url]


Wall Street.
[url]https://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/538354967/why-the-stock-market-s-rise-isn-t-just-a-trump-rally[/url]
From July


"But there are other forces driving the stock rally "that are not attributable to Trump, at all," Siegel says. One is faster global growth. That, combined with a recent decline in the value of the dollar, has sparked more demand for U.S. goods abroad, helping boost U.S. company profits.

"Almost 40 percent of the profits of S&P 500 companies come from abroad," Siegel says. So, a stronger global economy is boosting U.S. stock prices.

U.S. growth is still sluggish — a 1.4 percent rate in the first quarter — and far below the Trump administration's goal of 3 percent.[/quote]

So the first quarter was 1.4%, and we all agree that Trump didn't take office till mid January, so not much chance of an impact.

The 2nd quarter - maybe a little impact? -
[quote]U.S. economic growth revised up to 3.1% rate in Q2. WASHINGTON — The U.S. economy grew at an upgraded annual rate of 3.1% in the spring, the fastest pace in more than two years. But growth is expected to slow sharply this quarter in the wake of a string of devastating hurricanes.Sep 28, 2017
U.S. economic growth revised up to 3.1% rate in Q2 - USA Today
[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/.../u...economic-growth...rate.../711674001/[/url][/quote]

The 3rd quarter - still some maybe, but like the quote says, expect it to slow because of the hurricanes -

[quote]First reading on third-quarter GDP up 3.0%, vs 2.5% rise expected[/quote]

The last 4 years of Pres. Obama's tenure, the real growth was 2012 : 2.2%, 2013 : 1.7%, 14 : 2.4% 15:2.6% 16: 1.6%.

Is Trump fully responsible, of course not, but if the economy was in the dumps I know that without a doubt, the spin would be Pres. Obama had a stable economy in place and Trump ruined it.

I do think Pres Obama and the Republican congress, and of course the Fed Reserve, kept the economy on a low growth even keel trend. I believe, based on my understanding of how Pres Obama often described the economy, that he believes that a slower growth course is best, and I think that corporate decision makers knew that. I believe they also know that Trump wants to see more extensive growth, and they are acting on that belief, and expectation that the economy will be allowed to grow more robustly under a Trump administration then was allowed under the Obama administration.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1179353]Also, thank you for your opinion. It feels like no one admits they voted for him. I still detest him as a human being.[/quote]

What does it say about our society, when basically half the country feels like they have to hide their beliefs from the other half because they know the other side will act out and hissy fit over it?

I don't think Trump voters are in any way ashamed that they voted for him. I do think that they just don't want to be dumped into a stereotypical heap by those who don't agree with them.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/uncertainty-anger-as-trump-keeps-alive-dispute-over-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/2017/12/05/e514b852-d9ab-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_jerusalem-415pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c7c4db3ead85[/url]

This just seems like a dumb move.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1182341][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/uncertainty-anger-as-trump-keeps-alive-dispute-over-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/2017/12/05/e514b852-d9ab-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_jerusalem-415pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c7c4db3ead85[/url]

This just seems like a dumb move.[/quote]

Agreed...the hornets nest is buzzing out there like we’ve never seen, you don’t run up and kick it. Extremely poor move right now.

It’s ironic how we view the Middle East as the cradle of civilization but it’s been the main factor in holding the modern world back with it’s never ending strife. The man upstairs really threw a wrench in the game when he planted the greatest deposit of oil in the world smack dab in the middle of that place.

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[quote=Chico23231;1182342]Agreed...the hornets nest is buzzing out there like we’ve never seen, you don’t run up and kick it. Extremely poor move right now.

It’s ironic how we view the Middle East as the cradle of civilization but it’s been the main factor in holding the modern world back with it’s never ending strife. The man upstairs really threw a wrench in the game when he planted the greatest deposit of oil in the world smack dab in the middle of that place.[/quote]

That man is going to do anything that can distract from that Mueller investigation. Trump's walls are closing in and he's feeling the squeeze.