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Obviously we won't know what this draft will be for a while. But to get another bull in Payne to help plug up the middle, as well as Settle, we have to be happy about that. Then to move back, get a 3rd rounder back and still get a potentially elite back, great job there by the front office. And w/ Trent's injuries we really needed to get a young tackle in the mix. Overall really like what we've done so far. Yes we are missing a guard but I guess they have confidence in Arie. Maybe the light came on for the guy last year. We'll see.

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we did a solid job on paper, I would expect 2 or 3 guys from this draft to be around for a few years, the other guys prob wont be. JUst how it works

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So far seeing UDFA signings:

Martez Carter RB
Timon Paris T/G
De'Mornay-el WR/PR

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[QUOTE=WillH;1193842]So far seeing UDFA signings:

Martez Carter RB
Timon Paris T/G
De'Mornay-el WR/PR

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Now Ty Mcculley OL

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[quote=WillH;1193835]I hope we pick up JC Jackson from Maryland, this guy should not have gone undrafted.

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Signed with NE

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I saw new York, but damn either way[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1193844]Signed with NE[/QUOTE]

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[quote=punch it in;1193833]Apke will contribute bigly on ST. You are going to see Payne and Settle alot this year too. Guice is going to be an absolute stud. I think you will feel better about this draft alot sooner than you think.[/quote]


Hope you're right my man. Agree on Apke on teams. Speed kills.

I don't share everyone's optimism on Guice, but hope I'm wrong.

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Looks like Danny Johnson CB is signing

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where is everybody getting the info on free agent signings

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Twitter yo:

Sean Welsh G

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thanks

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Elijah Wellman FB

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[quote=WillH;1193849]Twitter yo:

Sean Welsh G

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Happy about this one. I'm assuming it's the Iowa guy. As a big 10 guy I've liked him to varying degrees over the last 4 years.

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[quote=WillH;1193851]Elijah Wellman FB

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And if we're signing fullbacks go get my guy Austin Ramesh!

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[quote=WillH;1193849]Twitter yo:

Sean Welsh G

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Great pick up IF he can solve medical issues

[url=http://www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128402&draftyear=2018&genpos=OG]Sean Welsh | Iowa, OG : 2018 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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[quote=WillH;1193847]Looks like Danny Johnson CB is signing

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[url=http://www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1001408&draftyear=2018&genpos=CB]Danny Johnson | Southern, CB : 2018 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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Micah holder wR

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Dallas got Austin? LOL They are in trouble this yr

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It looks like 2 or 3 UDFA OL that have a chance to make the roster or practice squad

[url]https://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2018/04/washington-redskins-start-signing-undrafted-players-2018-udfas-live-post-002537787.html[/url]

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Love the settle pick. He’s gonna be our starting nose and Payne can play outside now. No ones going to run on us.


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I think if Phil Taylor gets healthy he’s the starting NT


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Here are the PFF player [U]performance[/U] grades of our draft class. All of them have good grades. Check out the PFF grade on our so-called "Mr. Irrelevant".

1 (13) Da’Ron Payne, DI, Alabama, 87.7
2 (59) Derrius Guice, RB, LSU, 85.1
3 (74) Geron Christian, OT, Louisville, 84.9
4 (109) Troy Apke, S, Penn State, 82.5
5 (163) Tim Settle, DI, Virginia Tech, 86.0
6 (197) Shaun Dion Hamilton, LB, Alabama, 82.6
7 (241) Greg Stroman, CB, Virginia Tech, 84.4
7 (256) Trey Quinn, WR, SMU, 91.1

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1193861]I think if Phil Taylor gets healthy he’s the starting NT


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You could be right about that. He looked great before he was injured. I like the idea of adding Taylor, Payne, and Settle to our run defense.

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It been a proven fact in the NFL, the stronger your front line is the better the secondary looks. You have a pro bowl front and it makes good-mediocre Guys in the secondary look like all stars as well


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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1193862]Here are the PFF player [U]performance[/U] grades of our draft class. All of them have good grades. Check out the PFF grade on our so-called "Mr. Irrelevant".

1 (13) Da’Ron Payne, DI, Alabama, 87.7
2 (59) Derrius Guice, RB, LSU, 85.1
3 (74) Geron Christian, OT, Louisville, 84.9
4 (109) Troy Apke, S, Penn State, 82.5
5 (163) Tim Settle, DI, Virginia Tech, 86.0
6 (197) Shaun Dion Hamilton, LB, Alabama, 82.6
7 (241) Greg Stroman, CB, Virginia Tech, 84.4
7 (256) Trey Quinn, WR, SMU, 91.1[/quote]

Wow, don't know how all of this will translate into the NFL, but that sure is exciting!

EDIT: found the link, we're the only team whose all draft picks are rated above 80 !!!
[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-all-32-nfl-teams-2018-nfl-draft-grades[/url]

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1193861]I think if Phil Taylor gets healthy he’s the starting NT


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Hard to see him even making the team now.

The starters are Allen, Payne and Ioannidis. On the bench it’s Lanier, Settle and... 6th and final spot up for grabs. I’d put my money on Hood because of his versatility and the coaches love him.

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[quote=MTK;1193866]Hard to see him even making the team now.

The starters are Allen, Payne and Ioannidis. On the bench it’s Lanier, Settle and... 6th and final spot up for grabs. I’d put my money on Hood because of his versatility and the coaches love him.[/quote]

Yeah, it will be him and McGee for the final spot. I would imagine they keep McGee as he can play either DT spot. Settle, Payne, and Ionnidis can all rotate in at NT as well as DT.

It's nice having lots of options now.

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I am hoping someone might start a Thread on our undrafted free agent signings. I am having trouble finding intel on them.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1193861]I think if Phil Taylor gets healthy he’s the starting NT


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I cant even see him making the team

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1193865]Wow, don't know how all of this will translate into the NFL, but that sure is exciting!

EDIT: found the link, we're the only team whose all draft picks are rated above 80 !!!
[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-all-32-nfl-teams-2018-nfl-draft-grades[/url][/quote]

PFF Grading is based on a bunch of different things, they can be somewhat generous at times.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1193906]PFF Grading is based on a bunch of different things, they can be somewhat generous at times.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm aware that even their NFL players grades aren't 100% accurate, and have no idea how much tape they watched on college players, nor if the grades are somehow influenced by the level of teams and players they played against... Which is a pretty big bias.

So it's hard to know how it will translate in the NFL, still it's good to know a team of people with good football knowledge, after spending time watching films, think our scouting department was right on point !

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1193909]Yeah, I'm aware that even their NFL players grades aren't 100% accurate, and have no idea how much tape they watched on college players, nor if the grades are somehow influenced by the level of teams and players they played against... Which is a pretty big bias.

So it's hard to know how it will translate in the NFL, still it's good to know a team of people with good football knowledge, after spending time watching films, think our scouting department was right on point ![/quote]

I think we had a good draft, and like we have seen in the past with Bruce, he does draft good players. I'm pumped about this season.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1193859]Love the settle pick. He’s gonna be our starting nose and Payne can play outside now. No ones going to run on us.


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Well .... let's not get ahead of ourselves. Rookies gonna rookie.

One of the reasons he slipped was due to his motivation and energy being questioned. In college, it's easy for big, heavy linemen to look good just b/c they just push guys around due to their weight or b/c they can't be pushed around due to their weight. To make it as a NT at the next level, guys need to really be able to play to their weight. Otherwise, they will get shoved around.

As a side note, whenever I watch college or CFL games, it is striking to me how noticeable the difference is between them and the NFL. All the windows - running lanes, coverage openings, routes to the QB for pass-rushers, etc - are all much, much smaller at the pro level. The game is just so much faster in the NFL that tenths of a second make or break almost every play. In addition, lineman aren't just "big guys"; they are big, strong, athletic guys. It's why I have such a hard time with the draft, so many of these guys look great in college but simply can't run with the pros.

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[quote=calia;1193898]I am hoping someone might start a Thread on our undrafted free agent signings. I am having trouble finding intel on them.


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There are 3 offensive linemen who have a chance to make the team/practice squad and WR Cobb

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/4/28/17296884/nfl-draft-2018-undrafted-free-agents-udfa-tracker-signings-redskins-rumors[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1193925]Well .... let's not get ahead of ourselves. Rookies gonna rookie.

One of the reasons he slipped was due to his motivation and energy being questioned. In college, it's easy for big, heavy linemen to look good just b/c they just push guys around due to their weight or b/c they can't be pushed around due to their weight. To make it as a NT at the next level, guys need to really be able to play to their weight. Otherwise, they will get shoved around.

As a side note, whenever I watch college or CFL games, it is striking to me how noticeable the difference is between them and the NFL. [B]All the windows - running lanes, coverage openings, routes to the QB for pass-rushers, etc - are all much, much smaller at the pro level. The game is just so much faster in the NFL that tenths of a second make or break almost every play. In addition, lineman aren't just "big guys"; they are big, strong, athletic guys. It's why I have such a hard time with the draft, so many of these guys look great in college but simply can't run with the pros.[/B][/quote]

Watching Guice highlights I was thinking the same thing. I love the pick, but it amazed me how often there was a huge lane for Guice that I could have made it halfway through. That said, I can't wait to see Scherff bulldozing a LB to clear the way for Guice.

This top ten video of Guice is fun to watch, but also shows those running lanes:
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Watch the hit he puts on a defender at 3:30. The guy goes off his feet and flies backward.

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Guice broke a zillion tackle attempts in college. I'm not the least bit concerned about him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1193943]Guice broke a zillion tackle attempts in college. I'm not the least bit concerned about him.[/quote]

He's also 20 years old! I didn't realize he was that young.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1193940]Watching Guice highlights I was thinking the same thing. I love the pick, but it amazed me how often there was a huge lane for Guice that I could have made it halfway through. That said, I can't wait to see Scherff bulldozing a LB to clear the way for Guice.



This top ten video of Guice is fun to watch, but also shows those running lanes:

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Watch the hit he puts on a defender at 3:30. The guy goes off his feet and flies backward.[/QUOTE]



Honestly you can say the same thing for any college RB regarding huge running lanes, especially against lower level competition

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Perine is the all time rusher in a game, stats are def overrated in college football. What stands out is the tape. We can look at these guys numbers all the time but what does Guice do when I free defender is coming his way? He generally lays the smack to them. I love that.

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[quote=MTK;1193945]Honestly you can say the same thing for any college RB regarding huge running lanes, especially against lower level competition[/quote]

I agree. But I was wishing we could see those type lanes. :)