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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1220469]Cooley has talked repeatedly about this...it’s why I’m so adamant on getting rid of the garbage TE unit we have.[/QUOTE]Agreed but this is coaching. Sprinkle's hands aren't that bad that you can't ask him to run a route every now and then... even when Sprinkle was in alone and it was a pass, most of the time he was blocking. ..
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[quote=FrenchSkin;1220470]Agreed but this is coaching. Sprinkle's hands aren't that bad that you can't ask him to run a route every now and then... even when Sprinkle was in alone and it was a pass, most of the time he was blocking. ..
Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk[/quote] If we are in a "punt year"...and by the signing of DRC and Flowers it looks that way....move on from VD and Reed, elevate Sprinkle, sign a FA TE cheap, look in the draft and we have 2 decent UDFA from last year who looked actually ok. Lets see what we have going forward. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1220471]If we are in a "punt year"...and by the signing of DRC and Flowers it looks that way....move on from VD and Reed, elevate Sprinkle, sign a FA TE cheap, look in the draft and we have 2 decent UDFA from last year who looked actually ok. Lets see what we have going forward.[/quote]
Good plan but I think neither the FO nor Jay are in "punt year" mode, I rather think they're in "save our asses" mode... Hence the Collins and Keenum additions, and the reports that we were in on AB and the Rosen trade. |
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Even if he tempered it a bit saying the players left some on the field, Cooley continued his documented roasting of Jay's play calling in his [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-53"]53rd podcast episode[/URL] , this time breaking down last year's 2nd down plays.
Again didn't take notes, but our offense's efficiency was laughable, in 2 and 6 or less, which Cooley described as one of the ideal situations to get chunk plays, we got 4 plays of 20+ yards, the longest being a 33 yards catch by Mo Harris... 4 plays. Out of 88. |
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Cooley's Podcast Transcript:
Cooley: Linemen are afraid to get down field, they need to be more aggressive Lady: Yeah, heheheh Cooley: These analytics suck, they need quality control Lady: Yeah, Yeah, hehehehe Cooley: if your playing the redskins, you can key off these tendencies Lady: ehehehehe, yeah, ehehehe Lady: hehehehehe Cooley: Window nation is awesome Lady: yeah Cooley: jay sucks Lady: yeah Lady: uhhhmmm yeah Cooley: Tendency breaking... Lady: ok, yeah Cooley is so informative but listening to that podcast is brutal. Did he just hire a middle school kid to say "yeah" every few minutes? |
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[quote=jamf;1220530]Cooley's Podcast Transcript:
Cooley: Linemen are afraid to get down field, they need to be more aggressive Lady: Yeah, heheheh Cooley: These analytics suck, they need quality control Lady: Yeah, Yeah, hehehehe Cooley: if your playing the redskins, you can key off these tendencies Lady: ehehehehe, yeah, ehehehe Lady: hehehehehe Cooley: Window nation is awesome Lady: yeah Cooley: jay sucks Lady: yeah Lady: uhhhmmm yeah Cooley: Tendency breaking... Lady: ok, yeah Cooley is so informative but listening to that podcast is brutal. Did he just hire a middle school kid to say "yeah" every few minutes?[/quote] Yeah, i don't bother listening to cooley other than his guest appearances on Sheenhan's podcast. His own show is just too brutal. I do think he is a good talent evaluator, but I also think he is angling for a job in the front office, so i never trust him when it comes to his comments regarding the coaching staff or front office. I do trust his player evaluation skills though (for a radio guy). |
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[quote=Chico23231;1216755]Really don’t give a fuck....skins, same ole exercise again and again[/quote]
Yep, I've fallen in the same hole. At this point now I'm devoting all my Skins time to Airsoft. At least I will actually get some exercise doing that instead of watching others doing it. |
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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1220531]Yeah, i don't bother listening to cooley other than his guest appearances on Sheenhan's podcast. His own show is just too brutal. I do think he is a good talent evaluator, but I also think he is angling for a job in the front office, so i never trust him when it comes to his comments regarding the coaching staff or front office. I do trust his player evaluation skills though (for a radio guy).[/QUOTE]Are you saying the the statistics he mentioned regarding tendencies are incorrect? If so, what are you basing it on?
If they are correct, they need no interpretation. Anyone can see a huge problem in play calling predictability. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk |
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[quote=jamf;1220530]Cooley's Podcast Transcript:
Cooley: Linemen are afraid to get down field, they need to be more aggressive Lady: Yeah, heheheh Cooley: These analytics suck, they need quality control Lady: Yeah, Yeah, hehehehe Cooley: if your playing the redskins, you can key off these tendencies Lady: ehehehehe, yeah, ehehehe Lady: hehehehehe Cooley: Window nation is awesome Lady: yeah Cooley: jay sucks Lady: yeah Lady: uhhhmmm yeah Cooley: Tendency breaking... Lady: ok, yeah Cooley is so informative but listening to that podcast is brutal. Did he just hire a middle school kid to say "yeah" every few minutes?[/quote] Yeah that kid has been for like 2 or 3 episodes now, it's hard to listen, but the film breakdowns are back so I'm listening again. This is why Sheehan was such a great radio partner for Cooley, he knows how to run a show, when to joke and when to get back to football. His podcast is great. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1216755]Really don’t give a fuck....skins, same ole exercise again and again[/quote]
As noted by Doug Williams saying "we don't do scheme" is just another reason why all of these fucking terrible coaches, scouts and managers need to go. [url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-park-not-happy-doug-williams-comments[/url] It's the same ole, same ole. Quite frankly, I don't even care about the 2019 coming up. We're going to be once again a team with a high salary cap, with mediocre players to show for it that ends up in a 7-9 season. These fucking morons never learn how to build a good team, but the sure as fuck know how to distract the kool aid drinkers. :drink |
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[quote=NC_Skins;1220578]As noted by Doug Williams saying "we don't do scheme" is just another reason why all of these fucking terrible coaches, scouts and managers need to go.
[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-park-not-happy-doug-williams-comments[/url] It's the same ole, same ole. Quite frankly, I don't even care about the 2019 coming up. We're going to be once again a team with a high salary cap, with mediocre players to show for it that ends up in a 7-9 season. These fucking morons never learn how to build a good team, but the sure as fuck know how to distract the kool aid drinkers. :drink[/quote] Doug is a cars salesman right now, as are all GM's and player guys. I think we need to calm down on this quote. Doug knows more football and player evaluations than most. I feel very confident in having him run the show. |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220580]Doug is a cars salesman right now, as are all GM's and player guys. I think we need to calm down on this quote. Doug knows more football and player evaluations than most. I feel very confident in having him run the show.[/quote]
Did you read the article or listen to it? People inside the building aren't even happy with Doug Williams for what he said. Doug sucked at Tampa Bay, and he sucks here too. Remove the entire lot of them. |
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I’ll take Doug over Bruce all day at least we get some honesty out of Doug, and all he’s saying is they look at talent over scheme I see nothing wrong with that.
I think it’s hilarious some in the building think Doug is making them look bad, I mean really?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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[quote=NC_Skins;1220590]Did you read the article or listen to it? People inside the building aren't even happy with Doug Williams for what he said.
Doug sucked at Tampa Bay, and he sucks here too. Remove the entire lot of them.[/quote] I'm fine with cleaning house too, just saying Doug is better than BA |
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[quote=MTK;1220591]I’ll take Doug over Bruce all day at least we get some honesty out of Doug, and all he’s saying is they look at talent over scheme I see nothing wrong with that.
[B]I think it’s hilarious some in the building think Doug is making them look bad, I mean really?? [/B] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] Haha good point. Scapegoating at its finest. |
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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1220596]Haha good point. Scapegoating at its finest.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, Doug is really just a glorified figurehead so being a scapegoat is his main job. If he hadn’t been a great redskins QB and have ties to Tampa, he wouldn’t have a job here. I’m not saying he’s worse than Bruce - just pointing out that they’re both unqualified for their jobs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Listening to [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-54"]the 54th episode of Cooley's podcast[/URL]... At some point he tried to back down a little bit on the idea that Jay was "a bad play caller" (that the 2 previous episodes definitely strengthened) saying it was not "all on Jay"...
But then he's been on a rant for several minutes saying this offense looks like someone having no idea what they want to do with their house and trying to patch ideas of design and furniture they saw at their neighbours' houses and that in the end nothing matches with the rest and basically the house looks like an ugly mess... This puts a good a image on the general feeling that this offense didn't have any flow to itself last year. |
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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1220634]Listening to [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-54"]the 54th episode of Cooley's podcast[/URL]... At some point he tried to back down a little bit on the idea that Jay was "a bad play caller" (that the 2 previous episodes definitely strengthened) saying it was not "all on Jay"...
But then he's been on a rant for several minutes saying this offense looks like someone having no idea what they want to do with their house and trying to patch ideas of design and furniture they saw at their neighbours' houses and that in the end nothing matches with the rest and basically the house looks like an ugly mess... This puts a good a image on the general feeling that this offense didn't have any flow to itself last year.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Cooley is on the money with the tendencies and how our runs don't look anything like our passes so no defense is fooled on play action. I wonder (total speculation) if Jay named Callahan as the run game coordinator because he knew how big an S show it was . Sheehan has said Callahan and Jay were any arranged marriage many times. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk |
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[quote=DYoungJelly;1220636]Couldn't agree more.
Cooley is on the money with the tendencies and how our runs don't look anything like our passes so no defense is fooled on play action. [B]I wonder (total speculation) if Jay named Callahan as the run game coordinator because he knew how big an S show it was . Sheehan has said Callahan and Jay were any arranged marriage many times. [/B] Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/quote] I don't know, but what I do know is I want Jay gone after next season. On top of being a mediocre leader and motivator, he obviously doesn't know what he's scheming. I think he does a good job of getting guys open in the passing game, but our running game's a joke and it's now clear that the offensive scheme as a whole doesn't make much sense. |
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[quote=DYoungJelly;1220399]Cooley's podcast episode 52 is a must listen.
He breaks down every normal 1st and 10 from 2018. The tendencies and disjointed nature of the run and pass game are laughable. Literally, any madden player would be able to do better from a tendency perspective. A huge percentage of our running game is strong side duo and a zone play which is coached like a gap play (read Callahan) which is the equivalent to weak side duo. Neither of which marries to play action. There are unbelievable tendencies with personnel as well. If you listen please confirm or correct this stat, but im pretty sure we were in 2nd and long (8 or more) 44% of the time. Infuriating. I'm not spending another dime on this shit show of a team til Bruce and Jay are gone. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/quote] While it's nice to have confirmation from Cooley of what we already knew, I have little doubt that most of us here realize that Jay Gruden is the most predictable play caller that we have [U]ever[/U] had here in Washington. Jay has no imagination whatsoever, his system sucks to begin with, and the design of our running game under Callahan just doesn't work. If we fans can call the plays before they happen, you have to know in your heart that Gruden and company are fooling absolutely nobody in the NFL. That should be obvious to all - even Dan Snyder. And yet, Gruden gets another year to fail once again. Why? Because the owner is clueless, which is why the team president is clueless, which is why the head coach is clueless. |
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[quote=MTK;1220591]I’ll take Doug over Bruce all day at least we get some honesty out of Doug, and all he’s saying is they look at talent over scheme I see nothing wrong with that.
I think it’s hilarious some in the building think Doug is making them look bad, I mean really?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] I wish Allen would go and Doug Williams, Kyle Smith, and Eric Schaffer would run the whole show..... |
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[quote=NC_Skins;1220578]As noted by Doug Williams saying "we don't do scheme" is just another reason why all of these fucking terrible coaches, scouts and managers need to go.
[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/redskins-park-not-happy-doug-williams-comments[/url] It's the same ole, same ole. Quite frankly, I don't even care about the 2019 coming up. We're going to be once again a team with a high salary cap, with mediocre players to show for it that ends up in a 7-9 season. These fucking morons never learn how to build a good team, but the sure as fuck know how to distract the kool aid drinkers. :drink[/quote] This is the worst organization in football period. Its a disgrace what Dan and Bruce have done to this franchise. |
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Cooley did a [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-61"]2018 Redskins 3rd down analysis [/URL] ...
And again, there are some ridiculous tendencies, I'll just say one that seems incredibly laughable to me: on "basic 3rd down plays" (basically that excludes redzone, 2min and some of the 4 min offense), despite being [I][U]pressured more than 50% of the time[/U][/I], the Redskins ran only [I][U]12 screens[/U][/I]... [I][U]11 of which where on 3 down and 14 or more[/U][/I]... How big of a tendency is that ? That you only screen on 3rd down when there's 14 yards or more to gain ? |
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[quote=FrenchSkin;1221309]Cooley did a [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-61"]2018 Redskins 3rd down analysis [/URL] ...
And again, there are some ridiculous tendencies, I'll just say one that seems incredibly laughable to me: on "basic 3rd down plays" (basically that excludes redzone, 2min and some of the 4 min offense), despite being [I][U]pressured more than 50% of the time[/U][/I], the Redskins ran only [I][U]12 screens[/U][/I]... [I][U]11 of which where on 3 down and 14 or more[/U][/I]... How big of a tendency is that ? That you only screen on 3rd down when there's 14 yards or more to gain ?[/quote] The really odd thing is that Jay was a really good play caller in Cincy.... what happened to him? |
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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1221311]The really odd thing is that Jay was a really good play caller in Cincy.... what happened to him?[/quote]
His talent dropped off a bit here compared to Andy Dalton and AJ Green. And we put up great offensive stats when we had Cousins, Garcon, DJax, Crowder, etc. Scoring was still an issue, but the play calling hasn't been terrible at all times. |
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[QUOTE=sevier2;1221313]His talent dropped off a bit here compared to Andy Dalton and AJ Green.
And we put up great offensive stats when we had Cousins, Garcon, DJax, Crowder, etc. Scoring was still an issue, but the play calling hasn't been terrible at all times.[/QUOTE]It was a different style of play calling with quick game. The differences in talent doesn't explain the terrible play calling tendencies. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk |
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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1221309]Cooley did a [URL="https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-61"]2018 Redskins 3rd down analysis [/URL] ...
And again, there are some ridiculous tendencies, I'll just say one that seems incredibly laughable to me: on "basic 3rd down plays" (basically that excludes redzone, 2min and some of the 4 min offense), despite being [I][U]pressured more than 50% of the time[/U][/I], the Redskins ran only [I][U]12 screens[/U][/I]... [I][U]11 of which where on 3 down and 14 or more[/U][/I]... How big of a tendency is that ? That you only screen on 3rd down when there's 14 yards or more to gain ?[/QUOTE]What was truly infuriating from the pod was that the play calling did nothing to protect a banged up offensive line. Screens, boots, sliding the pocket were non existent. Cooley was baffled at allowing the defense to tee off on the lineman over and over with no surprises or changes. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk |
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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1221311]The really odd thing is that Jay was a really good play caller in Cincy.... what happened to him?[/quote]
Gruden's problem isn't play calling....his biggest problem is being very easy for opposing teams to prepare for....those Bengals offenses had slightly better personnel than the Redskins teams he's coached....his play calling is predictable 65% of the time....if you notice Gruden was 2-1-1 against the afc north in 2016, the division he used to coach in....but in the nfc that year Gruden was 6-6.......teams in the nfc conference know how to prepare for him. |
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The #Redskins are eligible for Hard Knocks but Jay Gruden thinks HBO would be crazy not to choose his brother.
Gruden: They can do us next year Reporter: Not if you make the playoffs Gruden: If we don't make the playoffs, I probably won’t be here anyway LMAO |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1224132]The #Redskins are eligible for Hard Knocks but Jay Gruden thinks HBO would be crazy not to choose his brother.
Gruden: They can do us next year Reporter: Not if you make the playoffs Gruden: If we don't make the playoffs, I probably won’t be here anyway LMAO[/quote] Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock are former TV Sports personalities. It'd be foolish for HBO to pass on that IMO. I think the Redskins have a boring dysfunction. |
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[quote=Ruhskins;1224133]Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock are former TV Sports personalities. It'd be foolish for HBO to pass on that IMO.
I think the Redskins have a boring dysfunction.[/quote] Yeah, as much as I'd love to get an inside look at our team the Raiders make way too much sense here. Gruden/Mayock/AB/3 First Round draft picks/Flamboyant owner... I really can't think of a better team to put on the show. |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1224132]The #Redskins are eligible for Hard Knocks but Jay Gruden thinks HBO would be crazy not to choose his brother.
Gruden: They can do us next year Reporter: Not if you make the playoffs Gruden: If we don't make the playoffs, I probably won’t be here anyway LMAO[/quote] LOL, love the self awareness. I really liked the Gruden hire originally and while he hasn't had the success I hoped he'd have I still really like him as our Head Coach. |
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[quote=sevier2;1224135]LOL, love the self awareness.
I really liked the Gruden hire originally and while he hasn't had the success I hoped he'd have I still really like him as our Head Coach.[/quote] I do like his personality, he's pretty chill it seems but that could be a bad thing |
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[quote=sevier2;1224135]LOL, love the self awareness.
I really liked the Gruden hire originally and while he hasn't had the success I hoped he'd have I still really like him as our Head Coach.[/quote] Me too.. It's unfortunate how things went for him, his work with Haskins is pretty much his last chance to prove everyone wrong. |
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He's only stating the obvious.
I'm still disappointed we really haven't addressed getting a vet #1 wideout. The rookies might be good someday but it's ridiculous to expect them to fill a void immediately. I see that as being a potential major setback to Haskins rookie season (which he will start at some point if not immediately IMO, as Gruden can't afford to wait to save his job) |
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[quote=Ruhskins;1224133]Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock are former TV Sports personalities. It'd be foolish for HBO to pass on that IMO.
I think the Redskins have a boring dysfunction.[/quote] Everyone of note on the Raiders will still be with the team next year... plus the team will be moving to L.A. IMO It would be foolish for HBO to go with the Raiders this year when they should be an even better to cover them next year. |
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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1224154]Everyone of note on the Raiders will still be with the team next year... plus the team will be moving to L.A. IMO It would be foolish for HBO to go with the Raiders this year when they should be an even better to cover them next year.[/quote]
So you are passing on Antonio Brown this year, after the all the commotion he has caused in the league? |
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[quote=Ruhskins;1224155]So you are passing on Antonio Brown this year, after the all the commotion he has caused in the league?[/quote]
Richie Incognito...on the team too? HBO has to go with the Raiders...this could get insane...Jon Gruden, Incognito, Vontaze Burfict, Brown, Mayock...that's a strong cast of crazy |
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[quote=Chico23231;1224156]Richie Incognito...on the team too? HBO has to go with the Raiders...this could get insane...Jon Gruden, Incognito, Vontaze Burfict, Brown, Mayock...that's a strong cast of crazy[/quote]
I think Hard Knocks missed out on a number of TV-entertaining dysfunctional seasons with our team back in the Shannahan/Zorn era. As I said, we now have boring dysfunction and nobody outside of the Redskins fandom wants to see that. Hell, even the name controversy has died down as an issue. |
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Riddick on how Snyder has grown since the last time they worked together but, unfortunately that hasn't translate to winning seasons for Redskins...
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Dan-Snyder-has-changed-as-an-owner-Louis-Riddick-132438081/[/url] |
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