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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336926]That was my thought, trade Dak sign Lamar[/quote]

If we're going all in for a "top tier" veteran, I'd go with Lamar. He's a FA, so it will only take money. And when healthy, he's very good. He hasn't had the WR room we currently have before either. So I think he can be better as a passer.

Note - "Top Tier" wasn't about Jackson. He's a top 10 NFL QB. It was moreso about what guys will or already do take up an ass-ton of cap space. Whether they are good enough to warrant it or not.

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[quote=Chico23231;1336927]If people are willing to spend money on go no where veterans like Brissett or Dalton, what about Cooper Rush? Are we saying we don’t want to apply pressure to Howell?[/quote]

Jacoby Brisset is the veteran I'm targeting if we're going with the Howell, draft pick, veteran route (my preferred route).

Not really sure what go no where means. Both of the guys you mentioned are still in the league, therefore, very successful. Rush is 29 too, so not like he's some spring chicken. His limited sample size this year is likely the highlight of his career. Brissett and Dalton have way more tape.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1336928]If we're going all in for a "top tier" veteran, I'd go with Lamar. He's a FA, so it will only take money. And when healthy, he's very good. He hasn't had the WR room we currently have before either. So I think he can be better as a passer.

Note - "Top Tier" wasn't about Jackson. He's a top 10 NFL QB. It was moreso about what guys will or already do take up an ass-ton of cap space. Whether they are good enough to warrant it or not.[/quote]

I was talking about the cowboys, I don’t want Lamar.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336930]I was talking about the cowboys, I don’t want Lamar.[/quote]

I know. But just made me think about our own QB options.

I'd prefer the Howell, cheap (by QB standards) Veteran FA, draft pick option.

But if the team decides to go after an expensive option (picks and/or money), give me Lamar.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1336931]I know. But just made me think about our own QB options.

I'd prefer the Howell, cheap (by QB standards) Veteran FA, draft pick option.

But if the team decides to go after an expensive option (picks and/or money), give me Lamar.[/quote]

You would have to let players go for one guy that hasn’t won anything and is becoming injury prone.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1336923]They definitely should try to trade him. And every team should say no. That contract is an albatross. He simply isn't good enough to take up that much cap space, especially if you have to give up pick(s) to get him. Very similar to Carr in that regards, imo.[/quote]

Someone like the Colts would probably listen.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1336933]Someone like the Colts would probably listen.[/quote]

It only takes 1 team. And Irsay is a wildcard. So who knows. But if it was my team, I wouldn't want that trade.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1336932]You would have to let players go for one guy that hasn’t won anything and is becoming injury prone.[/quote]

Not my top choice. Just saying if that's the route the team is taking, I'd take Lamar over trading tons of picks for someone that Jackson is just as good as, if not better. As of now, Jackson is the only big time QB that will be a FA. Possibly Carr, if no one trades for that contract. Jackson > Carr imo. So I'll take Jackson in that option.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1336937]Not my top choice. Just saying if that's the route the team is taking, I'd take Lamar over trading tons of picks for someone that Jackson is just as good as, if not better. As of now, Jackson is the only big time QB that will be a FA. Possibly Carr, if no one trades for that contract. Jackson > Carr imo. So I'll take Jackson in that option.[/quote]

The problem with Lamar is he's only a big threat when he's healthy and he can run - and he hasn't finished a season healthy in some time. Once his legs are shot and he will have to rely on being a pure passer he is gonna fall off and his contract is gonna be an albatross.

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[quote=mooby;1336939]The problem with Lamar is he's only a big threat when he's healthy and he can run - and he hasn't finished a season healthy in some time. Once his legs are shot and he will have to rely on being a pure passer he is gonna fall off and his contract is gonna be an albatross.[/quote]

I think it was Grant Paulson who said yesterday pff had Lamar passer ranking as 19th and then lower 20s the last two years. He’s fools gold as a passer. So I agree

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[quote=Chico23231;1336927]If people are willing to spend money on go no where veterans like Brissett or Dalton, what about Cooper Rush? Are we saying we don’t want to apply pressure to Howell?[/quote]

I think we definitely want to apply pressure to Howell, which is why my #1 course of action would be to bring in a Veteran FA QB.

Cooper Rush has been in the league for 5 years, but he doesn't have many more starts than Howell at this point. I'm not counting anyone out - as far as coming in and competing and pushing Howell, but I don't think Cooper would be near the top of my list. Surely not above guys like Brissett, Dalton, Bridgewater, Mayfield...

If you bring in Carr, L Jackson, Garappolo, G SMith...then you aren't pushing Howell. He would then be your backup. I hope they don't do this, but I'm assuming all options are on the table.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1336952]I think we definitely want to apply pressure to Howell, which is why my #1 course of action would be to bring in a Veteran FA QB.

Cooper Rush has been in the league for 5 years, but he doesn't have many more starts than Howell at this point. I'm not counting anyone out - as far as coming in and competing and pushing Howell, but I don't think Cooper would be near the top of my list. Surely not above guys like Brissett, Dalton, Bridgewater, Mayfield...

If you bring in Carr, L Jackson, Garappolo, G SMith...then you aren't pushing Howell. He would then be your backup. I hope they don't do this, but I'm assuming all options are on the table.[/quote]

Yeah, I hit the dank for the first time in a couple months last night. That wasn’t a good suggestion.

Please no bridgwater, but I like your other suggestions

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1336953]Yeah, I hit the dank for the first time in a couple months last night. That wasn’t a good suggestion.

Please no bridgwater, but I like your other suggestions[/QUOTE]


Or Dalton. God no.

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Doubt Dalton would wanna come back. The last time he was here he almost went home without his head.

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Eli Apple being a troll on Bills .. probably on Hamlin

Hes an angry elf.

Bengals going from lovebale underdogs to eliteist assholes real quick imo

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[quote=Chico23231;1336953]Yeah, I hit the dank for the first time in a couple months last night. That wasn’t a good suggestion.

Please no bridgwater, but I like your other suggestions[/quote]

Those weren't really suggestions. I was just saying that Cooper would be even lower on my list than those guys. The fact is though, if they want someone who will really push Howell and/or be a competent backup - someone who can come in in a pinch and get you a W, then they will have to pay for that guy.

Hell, Heinicke's market value according to Spotrac is $19.8M annual average salary. Dalton and Brissett are in the $6-7M range.

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I saw that too, and I can't believe someone will pay him $10M, let alone near 20. Maybe they will but it better not be us! I've always liked Brissett, if only as a bridge QB. Don't love the idea of him as the starting QB unless Howell bombs in camp, but he'd make a more than adequate backup.

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[quote=MTK;1336983][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnNjdReX0AM4CD8?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG][/quote]

Pretty Much

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^^^^^^

Haha, yep, add 1 more step for half the media jumping on their jockstraps, and that's 100% accurate.

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And yet the Dallas hype machine will be back in full force come August.

Nothing like the team twitter account throwing Dak under the bus, like WTF?

@dallascowboys
Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers, in a matchup the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn’t again generate self-inflicted wounds.

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[quote=MTK;1336993]And yet the Dallas hype machine will be back in full force come August.

Nothing like the team twitter account throwing Dak under the bus, like WTF?

@dallascowboys
Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers, in a matchup the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn’t again generate self-inflicted wounds.[/quote]

That hit was probably ordered by Jerry Jones himself.

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[quote=MTK;1336993]And yet the Dallas hype machine will be back in full force come August.

Nothing like the team twitter account throwing Dak under the bus, like WTF?

@dallascowboys
Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers, in a matchup the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn’t again generate self-inflicted wounds.[/quote]

Holy Shit!

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For as bad as this franchise has been for so long, 'dem boyz have been right there with us for the most part. It's just more funny with them because of the annual hype train they get to ride on, the one that never really rolls through the DMV.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1336993]And yet the Dallas hype machine will be back in full force come August.

Nothing like the team twitter account throwing Dak under the bus, like WTF?

@dallascowboys
Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers, in a matchup the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn’t again generate self-inflicted wounds.[/QUOTE]


Yeah that is unheard of….

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[quote=MTK;1336993]And yet the Dallas hype machine will be back in full force come August.

Nothing like the team twitter account throwing Dak under the bus, like WTF?

@dallascowboys
Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers, in a matchup the Cowboys had a chance to win if they didn’t again generate self-inflicted wounds.[/quote]

I didn’t think it was real at first, but that is fireable offense imo. Completely uncalled for. Could you imagine that happening here? 5 alarm fire

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Besides mahomes, every team in the final 4 Qb is on a rookie deal and surrounded by talent! Mhmm interesting take!

[url]https://www.tmz.com/2023/01/25/micah-parson-denies-shading-dak-prescott-tweet-cowboys-nfl/[/url]

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1337047]I didn’t think it was real at first, but that is fireable offense imo. Completely uncalled for. Could you imagine that happening here? 5 alarm fire[/QUOTE]


You mean a 5 alarm fire with the brass hers? Because Difference is with Dallas they went into the season thinking they were set at QB. Here it would be a total knock on our FO/staff/owner for going in with Wentz and Taylor. In Dallas it is a knock on Dak.

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[quote=punch it in;1337057]You mean a 5 alarm fire with the brass hers? Because Difference is with Dallas they went into the season thinking they were set at QB. Here it would be a total knock on our FO/staff/owner for going in with Wentz and Taylor. In Dallas it is a knock on Dak.[/quote]

But they named names and put his picture on the tweet. You coulda said it a better way. I mean, fuck’em but yeah that’s fucked up

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[quote=SunnySide;1337056]Micah Parsons
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Besides mahomes, every team in the final 4 Qb is on a rookie deal and surrounded by talent! Mhmm interesting take!

[url]https://www.tmz.com/2023/01/25/micah-parson-denies-shading-dak-prescott-tweet-cowboys-nfl/[/url][/quote]

That is the sweet spot.

At this point I rank Dak higher then Purdy. Hurts been a great season, still need to see more before i say he is in the elite level.

NFL/Fans are all so desperate for the next Manning level super star at QB, that as soon as a rookie throws his first TD everyone is on that guys jock.

Lets see a actual body of work equal too Mahomes or Rogers. I think Josh Allen is great but he still hasn't gotten over the big game hump. I think Burrows is the next great one. Mahomes and Burrows is probably our next Manning and Brady.

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Dallas has a really interesting situation now with Dak. He's looking more like a top 15ish kind of QB vs the top 10 or borderline top 5 QB we thought he was not long ago. Trouble is his contract, his dead cap hit won't be an easy one to swallow until 2026 so they're kind of stuck with him.

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[quote=MTK;1337062]Dallas has a really interesting situation now with Dak. He's looking more like a top 15ish kind of QB vs the top 10 or borderline top 5 QB we thought he was not long ago. Trouble is his contract, his dead cap hit won't be an easy one to swallow until 2026 so they're kind of stuck with him.[/quote]

He was at his best when Elliot was at his best, they both have declined together, they feed off each other.

Jerry had a old man boner for those two dreaming of Aikman/Smith 2.0

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[quote=MTK;1337062]Dallas has a really interesting situation now with Dak. He's looking more like a top 15ish kind of QB vs the top 10 or borderline top 5 QB we thought he was not long ago. Trouble is his contract, his dead cap hit won't be an easy one to swallow until 2026 so they're kind of stuck with him.[/quote]

I think Dak was a tough situation in general. He played well through a regular season schedule including 3 division titles in 7 years. Do you let that walk? I think some team would've given him the same contract if the Cowboys hadn't.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1337069]I think Dak was a tough situation in general. He played well through a regular season schedule including 3 division titles in 7 years. Do you let that walk? I think some team would've given him the same contract if the Cowboys hadn't.[/quote]

I definitely don't blame them for giving him the big contract, we should have done the same thing with Cousins. I'd rather take my chances with a good QB vs floundering around with what we've been dealing with.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1337058]But they named names and put his picture on the tweet. You coulda said it a better way. I mean, fuck’em but yeah that’s fucked up[/QUOTE]


Oh im in no way excusing it either way. It is totally fucked up. I just was curious if you thought it would be a 5 alarm fire here from the brass or from the fans?

Im completely happy about the whole situation. Once again the hype machine has crashed and burned in spectacular fashion. Lol

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Daks division titles were almost by default because the division was ass. Dude has become an absolute turnover machine and they definitely have a problem because of his contract.