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[QUOTE=12thMan]I totally think #56 is LaVar.[/QUOTE]
NO he's not LaVar and i for 1 am in total 2000% agreement with #56 this thing is sick and it stinks...watch and see how this comes out and watch where he goes and then watch him totally terrorizes the skins ...its personal and Gibbs and that lying dog williams are lying ..You can slowly see the Defense fall apart week by week werent we #2 well we're #5 now wanna bet #7 next week anytakers???

I wont be as nice this sux ..Williams is making a point that he can do it without Lavar his liitle ego is hurt ..Like he's bigger than Lavar ..in the mean time u have scrubs that cant even carry the wrapper Lavar's jock came in starting ahead of him what a joke...
Lavar cant play in a system well watch that system its crumbling slowly ..a run here a loss here...

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Can you get it through your hard damn head that maybe JUST F*&^ING MAYBE Lavar is full of sh*t and actaully does get a reasonable amount of snaps? You take his saying that he doesn't as gospel. Open your eyes man! Can't you see you're being snowed by your emotions on this one. I love Lavar as a player too but I'd be willing to bet he wouldn't feel he was getting enough reps unless he was getting EVERY REP. His definition of enough reps and the coaches is probably vastly different. If you want to argue he isn't getting enough reps don't do it solely based on what Lavar says. We really have no reason to believe anything he says since as Matty pointed out "Lavar is always the victim".[/QUOTE]

First, dont talk to me like that. This is a chat where people voice their opinion, thats mine. If you dont like it, or dont agree with it, fine. Thats your opinion and you are entitled to one. Just because I feel the organization is crapping on LaVar doesn't mean you feel the same way. There are alot of people in this that side with both of us. If thats the way you are going to respond to my remarks, then dont respond. I really dont feel it necessary. I dont believe I have said anything harsh or profain lased to you, in fact I know I havn't. So, apology accepted. lets move on.

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No apology offered. I think your views on the situation are misguided and uninformed. I think they take into consideration only what suits your argument with prejudice for what does not. I think your far too emotionally attached to one player rather than being attached to the team. You are being hard headed without good reason or fact and when it comes down to it your arguments are not just weak but unfathomably asanine.

As far as how I respond to you I will respond how I please. If I think your are right I will say so and if I think you are right I will say so.

If I think your a retarded moron I would say that and if I thought you were a brilliant genius I would say that. I think based on your comments that your are none of these. Rather I see you as someone who is so emotionally attached to one guy that it clouds your judgement of the situation.

Notice how I haven't really reposnded to others on this too much. My last several posts have been about your thoughts but have strangely been ignored by you as I posed some questions you seem unwilling to answer. That leads me to believe you really have no argument much beyond "Well, just because!".

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]No apology offered. I think your views on the situation are misguided and uninformed. I think they take into consideration only what suits your argument with prejudice for what does not. I think your far too emotionally attached to one player rather than being attached to the team. You are being hard headed without good reason or fact and when it comes down to it your arguments are not just weak but unfathomably asanine.

As far as how I respond to you I will respond how I please. If I think your are right I will say so and if I think you are right I will say so.

If I think your a retarded moron I would say that and if I thought you were a brilliant genius I would say that. I think based on your comments that your are none of these. Rather I see you as someone who is so emotionally attached to one guy that it clouds your judgement of the situation.

Notice how I haven't really reposnded to others on this too much. My last several posts have been about your thoughts but have strangely been ignored by you as I posed some questions you seem unwilling to answer. That leads me to believe you really have no argument much beyond "Well, just because!".[/QUOTE]



I haven't seen any of your questions. Ask away, I always enjoy aswering them. I dont know that any of my answers are misguided on misinformed as I get them from the horses mouth, but thats ok too. Yes I am a HUGE fan of LaVar, I do think he is a better player than Holdman and Clemons, but I am all so grateful that we are finally winning. I think our defense is playing good football, I also THINK(key word) that we would be as good, possible better with him on the field. Its not anyones fault that some of us think there is a deeper meaning to LaVar not playing, rather than not learning the system. And I do hope that comes to not be the case. Maybe GW is right, who knows, no one knows whats going on at Redskins park, at least none of us on this chat. Dont be so angry with someone expressing the way they feel or the opinions they have. Just because you dont agree, or maybe my opinions are wrong, who cares they are opinions. I have never attacked you or your statements, and as a Redskin fan first and foremost I am extremely happy we are winning. LaVar is the 2nd story, it just so happens to be a VERY BIG story. feel free to ask your questions if you have any, if you want to start bashing, I might join in, might not, just depends on how I feel.

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Guys, I think that both of you are taking it a bit personally. We're WINNING fellas, whether an opinion is misguided or uninformed, that's no reason to get upset over this.

You'd think an opposing team's fan had come to the board.

Chiiiill. :)

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[QUOTE=cpayne5]Because on a team that doesn't win much, that's where they make the money. Looking at your age you should know this, old man. ;)[/QUOTE]

I just saw this, good one. I am not that old!! you are right, they havn't won much in the past 10 years, except for the 1 trip to playoffs. But they use certain players as cash cows then toss them aside when their done. I guess thats the way its going to be, gotta get use to it.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I totally think #56 is LaVar.[/QUOTE]

AHHHH, you wish! Guess I have to change my screen name!

Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

If you want someone to laugh at who has been passed around, I always look at Eddie Kennison and his tattoos of all the teams he's played with...

...he's like the town whore.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]When did they lie? In your wildest imaginations you can't find anythign they have said that is a lie. You're taking Lavar's word as gold and dismissing they're word. Why? And honestly if you look at what both have said you don't see to much contradiction. No where did Gibbs or Williams say that Lavar was getting every rep possible. All they said was he needed to show improvement in practice. Lots of guys move up the depth chart by only a getting a few reps in practice and doing the max they can with them. The coaches don't stop watching when the 3rd and 4th stringers are getting reps. They're watching to see who is doing what.[/QUOTE]

Who knows who is lying and who isn't. LaVar says hes practicing as much as hes playing, which is not at all. His jersey looked pretty clean after the game sunday. If you dont practice, you can't prove anything.

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[url]http://www.skinsfan.us/Redskins/eaters.mp3[/url]

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]I thought my little preface to that statement would clue some in that I in fact didn't feel that way. My point was that this is the lamest discussion that has ever graced this board. How anyone can even believe that Lavar isn't playing for something other than performance reasons really is beyond mind boggling. You'd have to make a lot of contrary assumptions in the face fact to believe that. You'd also have to think that all of the coaches are lying and that the beat reporters are completely clueless along with the other players. It would have to either be a complete coverup or everyone involved is stupid. That is not reasonable to assume. He isn't playing because he isn't that good for our defense. Why can't people leave it at that? WE KNOW NOTHING COMPARED THE GIBBS AND WILLIAMS. They aren't missing the boat on Arrington. They see him every day and up til now he sucks enough to sit his ass on the bench. It is simple!!!!!!!!! We're not talking about something that is difficult to understand. Why is there even discussion on this?[/QUOTE]

I just went back to read some of your responces to see what it was you asked me. and to tell you the truth, it doesn't matter what I would say you would have called me wrong, or this or that. You get frustrated if someone doesn't agree with you. I hate to be the one to tell you, but your point of view may not be right either. As alot of the players in the NFL,NBA,MLB,NHL say this is a business, and if it means not playing a certain player because you defense if playing good without him, so lets save some money here, and limit his movement. You can't make the probowl if your not on field. but thats a seperate issue. There is no loyalty to players, teams, and mostly to the fans of the games. Teams can cut players and not pay the bonuses or remaining portions of the contract,except signing bonus, and players can walk out on their deals. The only loyalty going on here is by the fans. We buy all the stuff and drink the REDSKIN cool-aid all day long. Forgive those of us who feel there should be some loyalty shown by this team, that feel they owe a certain player the respect they deserve. They did the same thing to Brian Mitchell years ago. He did exactly what everyone said he would do, play with teams in the NFC east so he could play against us twice a year. We are the reason this team sells out every single game, and are the best fans in the NFL. You would feel the same way if you worked for a certain company and you went out sick or what ever and when you came back they had somebody doing your job and just pushed you to the side doing something you didn't want to do, or something they are not paying you to do. It happens everywhere. Maybe I am a little touched personally by the way they are treating LaVar, so what. I heard the dejection in his voice, the way he wants to be out there fighting for this team. He has been here through all the crappy years, and always said from day one he wanted to be a part of this team for as long as he plays , and he wanted to be here when things start turning around. I just think he deserves a TRUE shot at playing.

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#56 and railcon56, i agree with both of you 100%. this whole lavar thing screwed up. gibbs and co. are pushing lavar out the door because of all of his off season distractions. i just wish they would be honest about it instead of using the lame excuses of him "not fitting the scheme" or "his packages just were not called today"

and frplg just because our opinions are different than yours is no reason for you to act like an ass.

Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

Can anyone find the signature violation on this page?

Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I just went back to read some of your responces to see what it was you asked me. and to tell you the truth, it doesn't matter what I would say you would have called me wrong, or this or that. You get frustrated if someone doesn't agree with you. I hate to be the one to tell you, but your point of view may not be right either. As alot of the players in the NFL,NBA,MLB,NHL say this is a business, and if it means not playing a certain player because you defense if playing good without him, so lets save some money here, and limit his movement. You can't make the probowl if your not on field. but thats a seperate issue. There is no loyalty to players, teams, and mostly to the fans of the games. Teams can cut players and not pay the bonuses or remaining portions of the contract,except signing bonus, and players can walk out on their deals. The only loyalty going on here is by the fans. We buy all the stuff and drink the REDSKIN cool-aid all day long. Forgive those of us who feel there should be some loyalty shown by this team, that feel they owe a certain player the respect they deserve. They did the same thing to Brian Mitchell years ago. He did exactly what everyone said he would do, play with teams in the NFC east so he could play against us twice a year. We are the reason this team sells out every single game, and are the best fans in the NFL. You would feel the same way if you worked for a certain company and you went out sick or what ever and when you came back they had somebody doing your job and just pushed you to the side doing something you didn't want to do, or something they are not paying you to do. It happens everywhere. Maybe I am a little touched personally by the way they are treating LaVar, so what. I heard the dejection in his voice, the way he wants to be out there fighting for this team. He has been here through all the crappy years, and always said from day one he wanted to be a part of this team for as long as he plays , and he wanted to be here when things start turning around. I just think he deserves a TRUE shot at playing.[/QUOTE]
You're damn right I frustrated here. We have fans sitting here and without good reason or knowledge accusing people of lying and having personal vendettas for whatever reason. I have a problem with that. My main frustration comes from the fact that not one of those people has brought up a valid argument as to why Gibbs and Co. are wrong and Lavar is right. I would love to hear one! I am not saying that there aren't any but i haven't seen one presented here. The arguments are almost all based in conjecture and emotion. I have not once been this confused as to an opposing argument on this board in over a year. I truly baffles me as to why there is this ground swell of support for lavar and this apparent distrust of Gibbs and Co.
This is how I see the argument basically breaking down:
-Lavar was good when actually played like two years ago. He can rush the passer and plays very athletically. He made big plays and was dominant.
-He is 100% healthy now and is better than both Holdman and Clemons.
-Arrington had a dispute with the FO on his contract that created some bad blood as well as hard feelings about his injury situation last year
---All this equals to Arrignton not playing because they don't like some of the things he ahs done in the past and are willing to forego what he'd bring to the table by benching him.

Is this accurate?

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins]and frplg just because our opinions are different than yours is no reason for you to act like an ass.[/QUOTE]
What did I say that makes me an ass?

Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

[QUOTE=FRPLG]You're damn right I frustrated here. We have fans sitting here and without good reason or knowledge accusing people of lying and having personal vendettas for whatever reason. I have a problem with that. My main frustration comes from the fact that not one of those people has brought up a valid argument as to why Gibbs and Co. are wrong and Lavar is right. I would love to hear one! I am not saying that there aren't any but i haven't seen one presented here. The arguments are almost all based in conjecture and emotion. I have not once been this confused as to an opposing argument on this board in over a year. I truly baffles me as to why there is this ground swell of support for lavar and this apparent distrust of Gibbs and Co.
This is how I see the argument basically breaking down:
-Lavar was good when actually played like two years ago. He can rush the passer and plays very athletically. He made big plays and was dominant.
-He is 100% healthy now and is better than both Holdman and Clemons.
-Arrington had a dispute with the FO on his contract that created some bad blood as well as hard feelings about his injury situation last year
---All this equals to Arrignton not playing because they don't like some of the things he ahs done in the past and are willing to forego what he'd bring to the table by benching him.

Is this accurate?[/QUOTE]

I am not saying thats the way it is, but sometimes in this world thats what it comes down to. I think alot of us LaVar fans want to believe its the offseason stuff, and contract, not the fact that he cant play or cant pick up a system. I just keep going back to what Gibbs and GW said when they got here about how excited they were to have LaVar on the field in this attacking defense. Now things may have changed, but remembering the things that were said last year and how much praise he received last year for the way he was playing I find it hard to believe he would just forget how to play the D GW was asking for. Remember how much GW said after watching LaVar he was going to be a pro bowler every year, he was going to make LaVar great. Somebody with that much excitement and passion about an individual just doesn't go away, atleast I wouldn't think so. Its just hard to fathum him falling so far down the depth chart soley based on lack of knowledge or lack of discipline. Maybe it is, who knows

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]What did I say that makes me an ass?[/QUOTE]


ok, you were not being an ass, you were a little less than half of an ass.



just watched PTI and both wilbon and kornheiser say lavar being benched has nothing to do with his ability or inability to play defense in williams system. just thought i'd throw that out there.

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wolfeskins, you need to change your sig to comply with board rules

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this is stupid. paying lavar 60 million only to bench him is like marrying jessica simpson and not banging her...

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PLEASE FIX THE ANNOYING SIG

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or more annoying messages will follow ;)

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]wolfeskins, you need to change your sig to comply with board rules[/QUOTE]



WELL i guess rules are rulles but I LOVE YOUR SIG WOLFESKINS .... In Fact I'm Saving the page....High 5..lol

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[QUOTE=jamf]this is stupid. paying lavar 60 million only to bench him is like marrying jessica simpson and not banging her...[/QUOTE]



ty for saying that...its crazy

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]wolfeskins, you need to change your sig to comply with board rules[/QUOTE]

i was just screwing around, i didn't know about the rules for your sig.

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I think that LaVar should play all the time, just is a guy that need two people to stop him. It's seem that Williams got something againts him, well what ever it is Williams have to get over if he wants the defense to be much better.

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welcome to the board RIskins

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welcome to the warpath RIskins, hope you enjoy your stay here. I think Lavar should just prove himself in whatever practice he's able to muster, work his ass off in the film room and the other places, and prove to the coaches he can help the team. that's the only way this situation will get resolved.

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[QUOTE=RIskins]I think that LaVar should play all the time, just is a guy that need two people to stop him. It's seem that Williams got something againts him, well what ever it is Williams have to get over if he wants the defense to be much better.[/QUOTE]

Just plain and simple common sense here.... so correct

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Truth is people on both sides of the fence are emotionally tied to their argument one way or another. To suggest that someone is more emotionally tied to LaVar and then go back and pick apart comments from previous posts or vica versa really doesn't serve any of us justice here.

We are all knowledgeble fans with a lot of passion, wit, and intellect. So it is kinda frustrating to see people at odds over something that none of us have all the facts about. If you listen to Gibbs comments yesterday they were very pointed and direct. But they totally contridicted LaVar's statements the day before.

Bottom line, there's a lot we know about what both sides are saying about the situation and I'm willing to bet there is a lot that none of us know.

It will all come out in the wash sooner or later.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Truth is people on both sides of the fence are emotionally tied to their argument one way or another. To suggest that someone is more emotionally tied to LaVar and then go back and pick apart comments from previous posts or vica versa really doesn't serve any of us justice here.

We are all knowledgeble fans with a lot of passion, wit, and intellect. So it is kinda frustrating to see people at odds over something that none of us have all the facts about. If you listen to Gibbs comments yesterday they were very pointed and direct. But they totally contridicted LaVar's statements the day before.

Bottom line, there's a lot we know about what both sides are saying about the situation and I'm willing to bet there is a lot that none of us know.

It will all come out in the wash sooner or later.[/QUOTE]

Well said - I agree 100%! Of course, this is the type of spot-on posting that tends to get lost in an argument like this.