Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=Schneed10;1165914]Can't give him a deal midseason. If he's tagged, once you pass July 15th you may not negotiate on a contract again until the season is over. You have to play under the tag. Can't even pick up the phone to talk about it.[/quote]

Thanks for correcting me on that. Anyway, I want the stupid Redskins executives or [U]executive[/U] to sign him long-term.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1165931]This is obviously a bad marriage. It is time for a trade, reportedly they will not trade KC. However, that is likely posturing. The Redskins cannot act as if they are desperate to trade.[/quote]

How is it a bad marriage??? Both sides may not be buddy buddy but KC is now getting well over 40 million over two years for good play.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

The exclusive tag, in my mind, changes everything we've speculated on. No other teams can negotiate with Kirk Cousins now. That's not to say there's no longer a chance that a trade deal might take place, but in my opinion, if the Redskins were open to a trade deal, they would have tagged him non-exclusive.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1165932]You read a lot into that innocuous three word post.[/quote]

Maybe, but take Baker's post, when he hasn't officially been signed

[quote]Chris Baker Retweeted Kirk Cousins
💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰 Save me some 😬😬😬Chris Baker added,
[QUOTE]Kirk CousinsVerified account @KirkCousins8
Tag! I'm it!
[/quote]
Chris Baker‏
#HTTR #SWAGGYTIME [url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BRD4HOPACiK/[/url]
[/QUOTE]

And the Redskins splash across Baker's feed versus KC's
or Baker's pic
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/429830221333004290/odvPpNGw_400x400.jpeg[/IMG]
vs KC's
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/704099754863697920/SFzMqKxw_400x400.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1165938]The exclusive tag, in my mind, changes everything we've speculated on. No other teams can negotiate with Kirk Cousins now. That's not to say there's no longer a chance that a trade deal might take place, but in my opinion, if the Redskins were open to a trade deal, they would have tagged him non-exclusive.[/quote]

I don't think they're open for a trade UNLESS someone gives them the farm. All this media talk is just that.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

for a guy who is going to be paid 44Million from a team, he could - imo - be more enthusiastic. Sorry, any past snubs should be just that past.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1165936]How is it a bad marriage??? Both sides may not be buddy buddy but KC is now getting well over 40 million over two years for good play.[/quote]

They have had over a year to workout a long term contract and could not. KC has been paid very well, however obviously does not feel he has received a fair long term offer. Or, maybe KC wants to leave.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1165932]You read a lot into that innocuous three word post.[/QUOTE]



Yeah right? Seemed innocent enough to me.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/report-redskins-have-no-intention-trading-cousins]Report: Redskins have no intention of trading Cousins | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

Goodness gracious, we're analyzing Instagram pictures. Just stahp it.

Let's get some cooler heads up in here. The fact that the Redskins tagged Cousins doesn't change a whole lot. The one thing they did do was choose the non-exclusive tag, so he can't go negotiate terms. You could look at that a couple ways:

1) They don't view two first round picks as adequate compensation for him, and thus if he signed with the 49ers and they declined to match, they wouldn't be happy with the compensation. The non-exclusive tag means they control the discussions around trade compensation. In doing so they strengthen their negotiating position. Play it out:
[INDENT]- SF contacts Washington about trading for Cousins. They'll give their #2 overall pick for Cousins and the 17th. Bruce and Scott say F you no way, go pound sand.

- Cleveland contacts Washington about trading for Cousins. They'll give two 1st rounders and a 3rd rounder. Bruce and Scott say now you're talking. OK, Kirk we give you permission to talk to the Browns about a contract, but not SF. SF isn't willing to offer adequate compensation, so F them. Cousins then decides do I want to play in Cleveland, or do I play under the tag one more time and try to get to free agency? There's still a risk the 'Skins lose him for nothing in 2018. But think about it from SF's standpoint - they can't even talk with him right now. So if they want him, they're going to come stronger with an offer. Or they'll say nah forget it, they'll do something else at QB, and then Cousins' leverage next year disappears.

It's basically a game of chicken between the Skins and the Niners. Force the Niners to have to think about 2018 as the earliest they could get their hands on Cousins. If they do something at QB between now and then, like drafting Trubisky, then some leverage shifts back to Washington.[/INDENT]
2) While they haven't budged in their financial commitment to him yet, maybe they are planning on coming up between now and July 15, and they don't want John Lynch or anybody else to get in his ear. Maybe the Skins have a better read on this negotiation than we give them credit for. Maybe Cousins really does want to be a Redskin, and all he wants is for the team to get realistic with its offers.

Several reports have said that Cousins's preferred destination if dealt, would be the 49ers. Jason Reid also recently had his report that Cousins doesn't want to sign long term. It is certainly possible. But it's also possible those reports are leaking from the Cousins camp in an effort to gain leverage over Washington to extract the contract he wants from the team he wants to play with. He made the Pro Bowl as a 'Skin, and he likes familiarity and routine. There's a lot of reason to believe he wants to be a Washington Redskin, despite recent reports.

So when I step back from it, I see the Redskins trying to put the Niners in a position where they feel like they need to shit or get off the pot at QB. So they will either come with a strong trade offer, or they'll acquire a QB not named Kirk Cousins, and hopefully that will happen before July 15.

Then when July 15 comes, THAT's when the Redskins come with their best offer, when hopefully the Niners will be committed to a different QB, and the Skins won't feel like they need to make him the highest QB in the league.

When I war-game it, I just see a big game of three-way chicken right now, a game between the Cousins and Redskins and a game between the Niners and Redskins. Wait till July 15 and see who swerves first.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1165945][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/report-redskins-have-no-intention-trading-cousins]Report: Redskins have no intention of trading Cousins | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

THAT's the shit I've been waiting for. Rap Sheet.

Don't give me this Jason Cole, Bleacher Report, Jason Reid nonsense. Give me somebody with the cred.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

Good post Schneed, but what happens if Kyle S. calls the Skins' bluff and decides he will go with a stop gap solution at qb to guide the 49ers into next year where they will make a massive offer to Kirk in FA? I can see several reasons why that wouldn't happen, including A. you're wasting your first season as HC, and B. Kirk will almost be 30 at that point and you're not sure if you want to invest big money in a semi-aging qb. But I can also see why they would do that, because Kyle S. knows what he's getting with Kirk.

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For sure. But by July 15 you will know the Niners plans. If they call the bluff and go stop gap, you still have till July 15 to come hard with an offer. There's no need to budge now. By July 15 we will know if they're dumb as foxes.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

Cousins has owned 4 different vehicles in is life.
He has dated 9 different women.
His 5th grade math teacher was from San Francisco.
4
9
49
Yep, hes's gone...

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

I still believe both sides want each other, in spite of the noise.