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GridIron26 02-28-2023 08:51 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1338683]Not really. QB -1 in February, before free agency, the draft, and camp even begin is nothing more than a designation. Week one starter wont be named until August.
It is Sams job to lose, but he could lose it.

Still an advantage for Sam. Would have to really be outplayed to lose the job.

If Richardson looks good throwing the ball at the combine alot of eyes are going to be on him, including our staff. Im rooting for Sam because of what Chief alluded to. It is just a pick we can use elsewhere if he balls out but I want the best possible quarterback out there week 1 and if Richardson looks great during all this hoopla and is there at 16 decisions would have to be made. Nothing wrong with having two good young quarterbacks on board.[/QUOTE]


Richardson is nowhere near ready to play NFL. We have to accept the fact that there is a small chance of drafting a rookie QB who can start this year. We aren’t in the position to draft the top QB in the draft and this year’s QB class isn’t exactly strong. If we are drafting for long term plans then I can understand the idea of drafting a rookie QB such as Richardson, but Rivera isn’t in the position to do that. He has to prove himself to the new owner, especially when he had mediocre seasons in the last 3 years.

The only FA QB I would start over Howell is Garoppolo. If we can sign him then great, we have a new starter. If we could trade for Rodgers, then we have a new QB (I don’t like this idea but I can see Rivera going for it). If not one of those twos, it’s Howell. There is no other better option. Simple as that.

sdskinsfan2001 02-28-2023 09:06 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1338669]That's what he's said from the start.[/quote]

I mean I think it's a fair take on every position on every team, but it's definitely a reasonable position for a 2nd year guy, with 1 start.

As a Howell sunshine pumper, I still never felt differently. I just don't want to trade away picks to try to upgrade. Sign a couple guys, draft a couple guys, or 1 of each, and let all 3 compete.

I think he's good enough, that you can bring in competition thru FA and the draft, without losing picks. And he will beat those guys out.

Basically, next year, I think Howell will be a top 20 NFL QB. That's an improvement over 2022, and he will only get better, with still 2 more rookie year costs after 2023.

VTSkins1961 02-28-2023 09:37 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338690]I mean I think it's a fair take on every position on every team, but it's definitely a reasonable position for a 2nd year guy, with 1 start.

As a Howell sunshine pumper, I still never felt differently. I just don't want to trade away picks to try to upgrade. Sign a couple guys, draft a couple guys, or 1 of each, and let all 3 compete.

I think he's good enough, that you can bring in competition thru FA and the draft, without losing picks. And he will beat those guys out.

Basically, next year, I think Howell will be a top 20 NFL QB. That's an improvement over 2022, and he will only get better, with still 2 more rookie year costs after 2023.[/quote]


I agree with this

skinsfan69 02-28-2023 10:36 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1338684]Wentz is available…..[/quote]

I hope Wentz catches on somewhere. Obvious choice is Carolina. The hit job done on him by Indy was wrong. Wentz is a good guy and all, he just can't play QB very well and is probably best suited as a back-up.

sdskinsfan2001 02-28-2023 11:00 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1338693]I hope Wentz catches on somewhere. Obvious choice is Carolina. The hit job done on him by Indy was wrong. Wentz is a good guy and all, he just can't play QB very well and is probably best suited as a back-up.[/quote]

If he wants to continue as a strictly back-up QB, he will definitely be able to play somewhere. I don't think he's a top 32 QB, but he's a top 64 QB.

He's made a ton of coin tho. If I was in his shoes, I'd retire. I think we just paid him like 28 million for 1 year. Say taxes are half. You put that 14 million in a basic savings account, you're Gucci forever. That doesn't even take into account all the money he made before 2022.

MTK 03-01-2023 08:57 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
Wentz could be done, if Reich doesn't want him I don't see who else will

skinsfaninok 03-01-2023 09:46 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1338706]Wentz could be done, if Reich doesn't want him I don't see who else will[/quote]

He needs to be

MTK 03-01-2023 10:19 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/2/28/23618662/the-washington-commanders-announce-several-coaching-changes-nfl"]Commanders announce several coaching changes[/URL]

MTK 03-09-2023 10:28 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
@granthpaulsen
Sources: Bobby Engram is being hired as the Commanders’ WRs coach.

Eric Bieniemy makes an important hire to his developing staff. Engram was a good NFL player before getting into coaching. He previously coached WRs and TEs in Baltimore and was on Wisconsin’s staff last year.

Chico23231 03-09-2023 11:14 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1338685]We now have over 27% of the cap going to the D line. It will be over 30 if they exercise Young's 5th year option.[/quote]

The Dline is our team identity right now and where the talent is, I don’t mind it.

sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2023 11:20 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1339034]@granthpaulsen
Sources: Bobby Engram is being hired as the Commanders’ WRs coach.

Eric Bieniemy makes an important hire to his developing staff. Engram was a good NFL player before getting into coaching. He previously coached WRs and TEs in Baltimore and was on Wisconsin’s staff last year.[/quote]

That name takes me back to my younger days. I like former NFL players as position coaches.

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2023 02:50 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1339037]The Dline is our team identity right now and where the talent is, I don’t mind it.[/quote]

I don't mind the D-line being the strength of the team, but as is, it doesn't allow a lot of resources to be invested in other important units, such as the O-line, which arguably cost this team several wins last year. If you can't score, it doesn't matter how great your D-line is.

punch it in 03-09-2023 05:41 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1339039]That name takes me back to my younger days. I like former NFL players as position coaches.[/QUOTE]


I hate that in your younger days I was already a gray haired middle aged dude with a gut.

sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2023 07:12 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1339057]I hate that in your younger days I was already a gray haired middle aged dude with a gut.[/quote]

I got 40 coming up hot as fuck in June.

I was 27 when he retired, so not really that young, but a lot younger than I am now lol.

EdmundDorf 03-14-2023 02:41 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter
Coach Ron Rivera met with John Matsko this morning and informed him the team is moving in a different direction with the OL coaching job, source confirmed


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