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Buffalo Bob 01-05-2018 08:52 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185075]Kirk will get 30M most likely and that is also with signing our own FA's tha twe have now.[/quote]

I think with his shaky play down the stretch of the last two seasons combined with the trade and play of Garoppolo, emergence of Goff, and Keenum, plus this year's QB class, drop Kirk's value. Mid last year he probably could have got close to $30 mil a year from someone, I think that number is now dropped to around $25 mil, we will see.

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2018 09:38 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185097]Both Murph and Long are solid guys, not great but good backups[/quote]

Murphy has 15 career sacks without playing this year, Lawrence has 23.5 and has played and extra year. I say they are even.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 09:41 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
Kirk was ranked 10th overall on NFL.COM's season rankings.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 09:45 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1185107]Murphy has 15 career sacks without playing this year, Lawrence has 23.5 and has played and extra year. I say they are even.[/quote]

He was also on the juice lol

Giantone 01-05-2018 09:54 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185108]Kirk was ranked 10th overall on NFL.COM's season rankings.[/quote]
I read that and I can see that ,Jimmy G no at #12 he should be behnd Goeff and I think Eli should be around #23 ...I don't know what they (PFF)being under pressure but with no O line or receivers or run game I think he did fine.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 09:57 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=Giantone;1185111]I read that and I can see that ,Jimmy G no at #12 he should be behnd Goeff and I think Eli should be around #23 ...I don't know what they (PFF)being under pressure but with no O line or receivers or run game I think he did fine.[/quote]

Yeah Jimmy G is way too hyped up right now, he 7tds 5ints there is nothing special about that, the team won games but also beat teams that were out of the race for the most part too.. Eli did a good job IMO, he lost his best WRs and had no Run game just like KC.

Defensewins 01-05-2018 09:57 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1185102]I think with his shaky play down the stretch of the last two seasons combined with the trade and play of Garoppolo, emergence of Goff, and Keenum, plus this year's QB class, drop Kirk's value. Mid last year he probably could have got close to $30 mil a year from someone, I think that number is now dropped to around $25 mil, we will see.[/quote]

I agree, but not because his play dropped.
Even though Cousins (for good reason) does not like Allen, he could interpret a fair long term contract offer (signing bonus) as a sign of good faith that gives him the long term financial security he wants. Then he probably would drop his price to average $25M. Front load some guaranteed money, let it average out over the term of the contract.
However as long as Allen and Snyder's egos are in play, this may never happen. For them it is the perception of winning in the public eye they always want.

MTK 01-05-2018 10:00 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
Eli was terrible this year

Buffalo Bob 01-05-2018 10:12 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185112]Yeah Jimmy G is way too hyped up right now, he 7tds 5ints there is nothing special about that, the team won games but also beat teams that were out of the race for the most part too.. Eli did a good job IMO, he lost his best WRs and had no Run game just like KC.[/quote]

He was 5-0 this year as a starter on a team that was previously 1-10. That is quite an accomplishment no matter how you slice it.

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2018 10:20 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185112]Yeah Jimmy G is way too hyped up right now, he 7tds 5ints there is nothing special about that, the team won games but also beat teams that were out of the race for the most part too.. Eli did a good job IMO, he lost his best WRs and had no Run game just like KC.[/quote]

Have you watch him play? His decision making, accuracy and release are Brady like. Pretty impressive to come in mid-season absorb a new offense and win 5 in a row with 21 players on IR.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 10:25 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=MTK;1185114]Eli was terrible this year[/quote]

He's like 36 and had no weapons lol

skinsfan69 01-05-2018 10:25 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1185102]I think with his shaky play down the stretch of the last two seasons combined with the trade and play of Garoppolo, emergence of Goff, and Keenum, plus this year's QB class, drop Kirk's value. Mid last year he probably could have got close to $30 mil a year from someone, I think that number is now dropped to around $25 mil, we will see.[/quote]

Could not agree more. His best option is here.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 10:26 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1185116]Have you watch him play? His decision making, accuracy and release are Brady like. Pretty impressive to come in mid-season absorb a new offense and win 5 in a row with 21 players on IR.[/quote]

Saw him play a couple weeks ago and yes he's a good QB but ppl need to slow down on the next great player talk... Remember Dak last yr?? Now look

skinsfaninok 01-05-2018 10:27 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1185118]Could not agree more. His best option is here.[/quote]

Kirk in Denver would be a good fit too but that is all, just these 2 teams make the most sense.. NYJ? He is terrible at that stadium as we all know lol. AZ is on the decline and JAX says they are sticking w Bortles.

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2018 10:32 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185119]Saw him play a couple weeks ago and yes he's a good QB but ppl need to slow down on the next great player talk... Remember Dak last yr?? Now look[/quote]

He’s no Dak, put it this way the 49ers will pay him Stafford money. On the radio the other day former 49er tight end Brent Jones was happy they got Jimmy G., he thought what most people say about Cousins, he’s good but can he win the big one. I'm on the Cousins bandwagon and want him back.


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