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SolidSnake84 11-28-2016 05:00 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Conflicting reports now on if redskins are going to use tag at all:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/27/washington-wont-decide-on-kirk-cousins-until-after-the-season-ends/]Washington won’t decide on Kirk Cousins until after the season ends | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Albert Breer says skins don't know what they are going to do, and won't look at the situation until after the season.

LaCanfora and others still say the skins already have plans to lock up Cousins to keep him off the open market:

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/11/28/redskins-kirk-cousins-after-season/]Redskins Won’t Let Kirk Cousins Walk After Season « CBS DC[/url]

So if Cousins gets tagged the second time, does that mean that in 2018, the starting point for his negotiations would be 24 million?

CRedskinsRule 11-28-2016 05:02 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
But why tag him, if you are ok with the fact that you paid him ~20M this year, ~24M next year, how bad would he have to play not to sign him to a long term deal. Sign him to a 6 year deal, guarantee him along the lines of Andrew Luck's contract - [QUOTE]Per PFT Luck received $87 million in injury guarantees of which $47 million is fully guaranteed at signing. [/QUOTE]

I would say he should have even more fully guaranteed at signing. And be happy that we have a long term answer.

If you tag him in 2017, you set yourself up for a terrible negotiation in 2018. Either a 34M franchise tag, or a long term deal with 34M as a base.

MTK 11-28-2016 06:22 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.

NC_Skins 11-28-2016 06:44 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1157256]He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.[/quote]

Definitely and it's going to cost even more now. That 18-19/mil a year deal went to 22-24mil/yr. I fully expect that deal to start at 50mil guaranteed and be an average of 23-24mil/yr.


Ranking:

2nd in yards
5th in completion %
6th in QB rating
9th in TDs


He's going to get paid. If Flacco is making 22mil/yr, you can believe that's the starting point with it ending at Luck at 24.5mil/yr.

budw38 11-29-2016 11:08 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/28746/kirk-cousins-growth-one-reason-redskins-offense-flourishes-minus-key-starters]Kirk Cousins' growth one reason Redskins flourish minus key starters - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

skinsfan69 11-29-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Flacco is a SB winning QB who doesn't have the weapons that KC does. He played a big part in some playoff games on the road. Plus the SB. Not trying to undermine what KC is doing, he's been impressive. But Flacco delivered when it mattered most. In the end maybe that's what Redskins management might be looking at. He's going to have play at this current level in the post season.

punch it in 11-29-2016 12:23 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1157285]Flacco is a SB winning QB who doesn't have the weapons that KC does. He played a big part in some playoff games on the road. Plus the SB. Not trying to undermine what KC is doing, he's been impressive. But Flacco delivered when it mattered most. In the end maybe that's what Redskins management might be looking at. He's going to have play at this current level in the post season.[/QUOTE]



Flacco also had a top tier defense. Just sayin...
I wouldn't trade for Flacco young or old. No way.

MTK 11-29-2016 01:59 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Forget Flacco the number Cousins will be looking at is Luck's deal and working up from there.

MTK 11-29-2016 02:12 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
3 years of the franchise tag would average over $25M so you can bet that's what they will be looking at.

mooby 11-29-2016 03:14 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1157291]3 years of the franchise tag would average over $25M so you can bet that's what they will be looking at.[/quote]

As long as it leaves us with plenty of money to take care of our other needs I'm alright with it.

SFREDSKIN 11-29-2016 04:31 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Here's some good info on our salary cap for next year. $61 million sound ok?

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/The-Redskins-are-poised-to-make-big-moves-48728367]The Redskins are poised to make big moves[/url]

KI Skins Fan 11-29-2016 04:39 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
It seems to me that the most important number to Kirk's side would be the amount that is fully guaranteed. With the amount guaranteed as a negotiation item, the Skins could start low on that amount and give some on the guaranteed amount later in the negotiations in order to bring down the annual salary amount.

The number of years in the contract is also an issue. Will it be three, four, five, or even six years?

skinsfaninok 11-29-2016 05:05 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Kirk against the blitz... 110 Passer rating...

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/28746/kirk-cousins-growth-one-reason-redskins-offense-flourishes-minus-key-starters]Kirk Cousins' growth one reason Redskins flourish minus key starters - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Bishop Hammer 11-29-2016 08:14 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1157289]Flacco also had a top tier defense. Just sayin...
I wouldn't trade for Flacco young or old. No way.[/quote]

Kirk is a far superior QB to Flacco. It's not even a comparison in my book.

Alvin Walton 11-29-2016 08:32 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Hes going to get a cabinet position if we don't sign him long term so we better get busy.


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