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He wasnt injured running he went out of his way on his own and got hurt. Hes not paid to tackle in preseason is all Im saying.

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[quote=MightyJoeGibbs;203696]He wasnt injured running he went out of his way on his own and got hurt. Hes not paid to tackle in preseason is all Im saying.[/quote]

I really admire Portis and hate to say this but there is playing 100% and playing stupid. It was absulutely fantastic for Clinton to hustle around to make that tackle, something he has done more than a couple times in turnover situations to save a TD, but there really wasn't any need for the one-armed, crazy, bodyslam tackle. I know he is tough and wants to make his presence felt, but he has nobody to blame for his injury but himself. Why not push him out of bounds? Why not drag him down? He isn't a LB.

I would imagine the coaches are a little hot that he made the tackle that way. He shoulders him out of bounds and everybody is still happy.

I know that lots of you will disagree and will equate his ill-advised, one-armed bodyslam with "giving 100%", but I defy you to tell me honestly that the team wouldn't be better off right now if he had just left the crazy, monster tackles to the defense.

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[quote=m240guy;203727]I really admire Portis and hate to say this but there is playing 100% and playing stupid. It was absulutely fantastic for Clinton to hustle around to make that tackle, something he has done more than a couple times in turnover situations to save a TD, but there really wasn't any need for the one-armed, crazy, bodyslam tackle. I know he is tough and wants to make his presence felt, but he has nobody to blame for his injury but himself. Why not push him out of bounds? Why not drag him down? He isn't a LB.

I would imagine the coaches are a little hot that he made the tackle that way. He shoulders him out of bounds and everybody is still happy.

I know that lots of you will disagree and will equate his ill-advised, one-armed bodyslam with "giving 100%", but I defy you to tell me honestly that the team wouldn't be better off right now if he had just left the crazy, monster tackles to the defense.[/quote]

I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. You can't ask any play to go out on the field and give less than 100%, that is begging for injury too. I know it would have been easier for CP to watch the play go for a TD, but they guy has one speed...full out. I don't fault him, or the coaches. It's football, guys get hurt. Laying blame after the fact is about a productive as trying to answer question 3. I'd rather have a CP giving 100% on every play than have a Randy Moss type who decides to play hard when he wants to.

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Portis said he was trying to hit him square, and he moved at the last minute and had to arm tackle. he's well aware of his shoulders, he showed a scar on the other one at the press conference. he doesnt have to prove anything to anybody, much less show off to an away crowd.

jeez, aside from running record yards, blowing up blitzers way bigger than him, throwing TDs and finding new costumes for the locker room and the fans, he also has to work on his TACKLING technique? what's next, field goals?

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[QUOTE=illdefined;203736]Portis said he was trying to hit him square, and he moved at the last minute and had to arm tackle. he's well aware of his shoulders, he showed a scar on the other one at the press conference. he doesnt have to prove anything to anybody, much less show off to an away crowd.

jeez, aside from running record yards, blowing up blitzers way bigger than him, throwing TDs and finding new costumes for the locker room and the fans, he also has to work on his TACKLING technique? what's next, field goals?[/QUOTE]

The hang time on Portis' punts leave a lot to be desired

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;203741]The hang time on Portis' punts leave a lot to be desired[/QUOTE]

and he needs to work on the high horn note on "Hail To The Redskins" when he runs over to join the band..

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B. Lloyd gives his take on preseason in his latest journal entry:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=18548]Brandon Lloyd Training Camp Journal[/url]

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does he volunteer to submit this journal entry, or was it some contract stipulation?

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I heard they asked him to stop after the second one but he just flat out refuses. The man loves to blog

Re: postgame comments from Portis
 

CP made some ill-advised comments in the heat of the moment. He was obviously worried about his injury. While he made a spectacular tackle, he could have left me with the feeling I was watching football and not the WWF.

From what I've seen, playing in a game is "faster" than what happens in practice. So, to get used to it (again), It's better for the players to see a little bit of that early in the preseason than for them to see it for the first time the week before the regular season. So, given the choice, who would you prefer to have CP face in an early full-on scrimmage: the Cincinnati defense, or Sean Taylor?

That being said, on the whole, this is a time for experimentation with personnel. This is what the coaching staff did. It's only at the end of preseason where you see how your (whole) offense is gelling.

As far as what Joe Gibbs said, of course he took responsibility. He always does when something goes wrong. By taking the hit for the team, he gets tremendous loyalty from his players, and they are willing to sublimate their individual goals in order to achieve the team goals.

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[QUOTE=MightyJoeGibbs;203696]He wasnt injured running he went out of his way on his own and got hurt. Hes not paid to tackle in preseason is all Im saying.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. This was not week 14 when the team is trying to get into the playoffs, its preseason and it does not matter. He would not have been coming back into the game. This was a stuipd move on his part and then to blame everyone except himself is typical of today's pro athlete. Luckily he has a gracious coach that will take the heat because he knows if he does it will diffuse the situation.

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[quote=irish;203970]This was a stuipd move on his part and then to blame everyone except himself is typical of today's pro athlete. Luckily he has a gracious coach that will take the heat because he knows if he does it will diffuse the situation.[/quote]

So some of you guys think he should just keep his mouth shut and run to he can get used to contact again, but he shouldn't react to a play the same way he would in a game situation? You're basically saying it was his fault for playing hard. That's a ridiculous statement, because you know if he had walked off the field after the turnover, he would have been slammed for that too.

And to say Portis is "typical of today's pro athlete" is absurd. He's basically the face of the team, and he does whatever is required of him with pride, whether it's running hard up the gut or stoning a blitzing linebacker. He's 100% hustle. Lumping him in with players like TO and Randy Moss is just stupid.

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[quote=Mattyk72;203083]What do you guys make of Portis's postgame comments?

He was probably just frustrated over the situation, but I'm sure his comment about being injured in a game he had no business playing in will rub some fans the wrong way.[/quote]

I'm getting sick and tired of CP saying he never should have been in that game. It looks bad, makes him look like all he cares about is himself, and that he doesn’t have faith in Coach Gibbs to make the right choices. I understand his frustration that he got hurt, but he said it once and that was enough, he didn't need to repeat it yesterday to the media, and also add that he is too high caliber of a player to be in a pre-season game....that annoyed me. He is part of the TEAM and should act like it. Coach Gibbs' intention wasn't to turn him into a defensive player, he just wanted him to carry the ball a few times. CP wasn't sounding much like a Redskin yesterday, but rather a frustrated, spoiled brat.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;204025]So some of you guys think he should just keep his mouth shut and run to he can get used to contact again, but he shouldn't react to a play the same way he would in a game situation? You're basically saying it was his fault for playing hard. That's a ridiculous statement, because you know if he had walked off the field after the turnover, he would have been slammed for that too.

And to say Portis is "typical of today's pro athlete" is absurd. He's basically the face of the team, and he does whatever is required of him with pride, whether it's running hard up the gut or stoning a blitzing linebacker. He's 100% hustle. Lumping him in with players like TO and Randy Moss is just stupid.[/QUOTE]


I'm not ripping him for playing hard, I am saying he should be aware he is in a meaningless game and when not running the ball or blocking in pass protection, act accordingly.

All the same stuff I heard about LA for all the time he was here and now that he's gone most people on this site cant rip him enough.

FYI, Joe Gibbs is the face of this team.

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[quote=irish;204044]All the same stuff I heard about LA for all the time he was here and now that he's gone most people on this site cant rip him enough. [/quote]

Yeah, that's a typical Warpath response to any good player that leaves to play somewhere else. They were never any good, and we're better off, blah blah... And there's no doubt in my mind that it will happen to Portis when he's used up. I just wasn't expecting this kind of response to a couple "heat of the moment" comments from the most talented player on the offense.