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BrudLee 02-16-2007 11:29 AM

Re: Lost
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG;275909]Well the fact that we have confimation that the Others haven't necessarily been on the island long is a major development to me. She's only been on the island 3 years.[/QUOTE]

My brother pointer out this mindblower to me. She said she had been on the island for 3 years, two montyhs, blah-de-blah. They've determined that the actual time they are there is late 2004. That would take Juliet back to right around 9/11/2001.

They aren't that ballsy, are they?

FRPLG 02-16-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Lost
 
[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;277965]I was thinking about that too. I think that sort of thing also spoils the show for people because there are not commercial breaks. My sister and her boyfriend just started watching the show, getting caught up through the DVDs and online, and they can't stand watching the normal broadcast because of all the damn commercials.
I wonder if network shows are going to start following things like TiVo stats and DVD sales as closely as they follow weekly ratings (for first run episodes) in the future. I feel like they'd have to or they'd risk cancelling a popular show who's viewers watch in a different format.[/QUOTE]

Nielsen does some sort of DVR/TiVo tracking but I am not sure how much stock networks put into it. They by in large don't like the DVR/TiVo revolution for obvious reasons and seem to have stuck their collective heads in the sand mostly. Some shows are starting to introduce easter eggs in commerical breaks as a way to have viewers watch them but those efforts have been few so far. Actually Lost did it a couple times.

BDBohnzie 02-16-2007 12:30 PM

Re: Lost
 
[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;277965]I was thinking about that too. I think that sort of thing also spoils the show for people because there are not commercial breaks. My sister and her boyfriend just started watching the show, getting caught up through the DVDs and online, and they can't stand watching the normal broadcast because of all the damn commercials.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly how I started on the show. Wife and I started watching right before Season 2 started...so we watched Season 1 on DVD, and the first several episodes from DVR. Then once we caught up, it made it extremely hard to watch with all the commercials. So now, we DVR, and start it around 20 minutes in. That way we can FF through the commercials, and still be done around the same time.

BDBohnzie 02-16-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Lost
 
[QUOTE=BrudLee;277967]My brother pointer out this mindblower to me. She said she had been on the island for 3 years, two montyhs, blah-de-blah. They've determined that the actual time they are there is late 2004. That would take Juliet back to right around 9/11/2001.

They aren't that ballsy, are they?[/QUOTE]
I've heard this as well...however, I've also read that the timeline puts her on the island around 9/5/01...

Schneed10 02-16-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Lost
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;277965]I wonder if network shows are going to start following things like TiVo stats and DVD sales as closely as they follow weekly ratings (for first run episodes) in the future. I feel like they'd have to or they'd risk cancelling a popular show who's viewers watch in a different format.[/quote]

But if I'm a network executive, I don't really want to count people who record the show and watch it later (like TiVo viewers). They skip over the commercials anyway. The only viewers I want to count are the ones who watch the live telecast, because they're the ones subjected to the commercials.

The ad revenue is directly tied to the number of eyeballs watching the ads.

ArtMonkDrillz 02-16-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Lost
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;278020]But if I'm a network executive, I don't really want to count people who record the show and watch it later (like TiVo viewers). They skip over the commercials anyway. The only viewers I want to count are the ones who watch the live telecast, because they're the ones subjected to the commercials.

The ad revenue is directly tied to the number of eyeballs watching the ads.[/QUOTE]
Good point

SmootSmack 02-19-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Lost
 
Pretty timely article

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/16/business/16commercials.html?ex=1172206800&en=ad099f89c1fc0da1&ei=5070&emc=eta1]Viewers Fast-Forwarding Past Ads? Not Always - New York Times[/url]

Schneed10 02-19-2007 01:21 PM

Re: Lost
 
[quote=TAFKAS;278462]Pretty timely article

[URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/16/business/16commercials.html?ex=1172206800&en=ad099f89c1fc0da1&ei=5070&emc=eta1"]Viewers Fast-Forwarding Past Ads? Not Always - New York Times[/URL][/quote]

Wow nice find. Runs contrary to what I was thinking. I have TiVo, and I typically watch every show the day after it airs, or at the very least, I tune into my programs 20 minutes after the start time so I can skip through all the ads. I try to avoid the commercials as much as possible.

I figured everyone did the same thing, seems like it defeats the purpose of having a DVR if you're going to watch the ads. But that belief has been debunked by your article.

This post was really one big excuse to use the word "debunked."

That Guy 02-19-2007 05:04 PM

Re: Lost
 
i just download my shows, so there's no need to fast forward through anything, the commercials just don't exist in that format ;)

BDBohnzie 02-23-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Lost
 
This past week's was interesting. Cindy (stewardess) saying how complicated things were with their abduction. Jack protecting Juilette, trying to gain an alliance. It'll be neat to see the sequence when Jack sees where they live.


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