Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Redskins8588;291597]Why is everyone asking if the Redskins are switching to a 3-4 deffense? I am not sure I am following the thinking. Is it because of the amount of LB's we would have if we got Briggs? I mean the Bears ran a 4-3 last year with Briggs on the weak side. So where are these thoughts of the Redskins switching to a 3-4 coming from?[/QUOTE]

I was only kidding when I asked it, mainly because we have so many LBs. With that in mind though, can Briggs come packaged with an Ian Scott or a Tommie Harris?

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I am speechless. How is it possible the the Redskins FO are actually considering this trade? It is yet another example of the Redskins having apparently a completely different value system than EVERY OTHER NFL TEAM OF THE FACE OF THE PLANET. The difference in value (just by the chart) between the 6th and 31st picks is 1,000 points, which is the equivalent of the #16 overall pick in the first round. Find me another team that would trade the 16th pick for a disgruntled LB who wants a FAT new contract. No other team in the NFL would give up more than a 2nd for Briggs, not a single one. I challenge you to find the team that would give up more than that. i don't care how many Pro Bowls he's been to, this is just a gross overvaluation of the player.

Even if he came in and did well it would still be a bad trade. It is like going to your Stock Trader, saying that you really like Amazon and the way Amazon does business. They have preformed well in the past and you think they will do well in the future. As a result you tell your trader that you don't want to pay the going rate, but instead want to pay TWICE the current price. Even if you ended up making money in the end, that would be a stupid deal. No one trades down from 6 to 31. I feel fairly safe in saying it has probably never happened before and there is a reason for that. It is because every other team in the NFL values their draft picks, the Redskins apparently still do not. If this trade goes through it is really going to challenge my loyalty as a fan and that is really saying something. The only way this deal would make any sense is if we were getting a healthy Tommie Harris back in return. Adding a very good linebacker to a team that needs some very good defensive linemen, giving up too much in order to do so, paying out yet another big contract . . . IT IS LIKE WE ARE FREAKING SPINNING OUR WHEELS, I can't take much more of this!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Big C;291584]we still have a first round pick though if it happens, so instead of getting just 1 player at 6 we get a pro bowler who is in his prime and a low first round pick. i think a lot of people are reacting poorly because they are excited about the draft and want to see us have a high pick, or have their hearts set on trading down. this trade wouldnt be as bad as its made out to be. there are tons of good DE's in this draft, and from what ive heard from sirius nfl radio good prospects at DE can be had later on in the 1st round and even the 2nd round. they even said the DE prospects are all very similar throughout the top part[/QUOTE]

Yeah but dropping 26 spots in the first round would be worth at least an additional two draft picks. Plus it is one of the few positions at which we have reasonable depth. It just makes no sense to do this deal. Briggs was a third round draft pick who excelled in a well designed system, playing besides some of the best defensive players in the league. There is no question he is great, but even if he maintains his level of success with us, we already have guys at that position who can play. Why not use the draft to address our needs and add some depth?

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

probably saying they're into the trade t get the giants/iggles/roids to bite and overpay. I can't believe the skins would actually pull the trigger on this.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I still maintain though that the real issue here with us fans is what this symbolizes. This is just so typical of the type of deal the Skins do every year. If it wasn't for the past what might be saying hey, great player, pull the trigger, but this was supposed to be the year where we finally figured it out.

All you have to do is listen to Portis's year end rant on the Thompson show to see how the players feel about these kind of moves. If this happens I am getting drunk by myself and throwing things.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Marcus Washington plays OLB. Lance Briggs plays OLB (and is 4 years younger than Marcus). Marcus is coming off serious hip surgery. Could it be that his injury is far worse than anyone knows? How is his rehabilitation going? I'm surprised this hasn't really been mentioned in this thread (I think SmootSmack hinted at it). I'd really like to know what's up with Marcus.

The real reason I hate this trade has nothing to do with my confidence in Briggs' abilities. It's the fact that by swapping down to the 31st pick, we lose all ammunition to acquire more 1st day picks. I'd be all for this if we already had a 2nd and 3rd rounder.

Why on earth is Danny lobbing rumors out there now? Something isn't right with this. It don't want it to happen.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=That Guy;291602]probably saying they're into the trade t get the giants/iggles/roids to bite and overpay. I can't believe the skins would actually pull the trigger on this.[/quote]

Well the Eagles could care less about Briggs b/c they just got Spikes. I think the way Briggs became so outspoken against the Bears organization turned a lot of teams off. I wouldn't be surprised if MattyK's theory is right, and this is just Rosenhaus asking a favor of the Danny so they can drum up some interest in Briggs. This guy is a 26 year old 2 time pro-bolwer, and teams seem not to give two shits about him.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Big C;291474]i actually think this would be a really good deal. briggs would be an upgrade over both washington and macintosh on the outside and we'd still have a first round pick, although much lower. we'd have awesome linebacker depth and would be able to rotate them. briggs is a pro bowl linebacker, this is a good deal if it happens IMO. this is a deep draft, there will be a good player at 31 and would upgrade the defense[/QUOTE]
If this has any truth it might not be so bad. Many drafts have DE Anderson falling to the end of the first round. If we get Briggs and Anderson I be for it but that would be a big if!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

we have enough linebackers, and he is leaving Chicagp because they dont want to pay him his market value. We CAN'T pay him, so why even bother.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

any time there is a RUMOR that involves drew rosenhaus, everyone should slow down around here. the man is good at getting top dollar for his clients. therefore, the redskins will ALWAYS be mentioned along with whoever his free agent is. its just good business to use the skins as a bargaining tool. because the skins have been known to over pay from time to time.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

This is so beyond stupid its unbelivable....


but its the Redskins, so its very belivable.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

The only way this could be true and not involve me spitting out bile for the next week involves the following variables:
[LIST][*]The Redskins think that there is parity among the top four DT's in the draft. There is legitimate argument that the best DT is Okoye or Branch, and Justin Harrell is rising. If our scouts see a fourth DT in that mix, then he's a guy that should make it through to 31.[*]Marcus Washington is, literally, half the player he was. We know nothing of his health status, and if his hip has rendered him immobile, we don't have the guy to be our SAM LB.[*]Preliminary discussions have Briggs signing a deal that doesn't pay him much differently than the Bears would have in their early contract proposal. Sometimes a player will take less to get out of what they see is a poisonous situation. Granted, it doesn't happen with the Redskins signing checks very often, but hope spring eternal.[*]There's [i]something[/i] else coming over from Chicago, even if it's just for show. Tack a fourth round pick on a deal, and it acts like spackle, filling in the little cracks that we all inherently see.[/LIST]

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Hey guys I really don't know what everyone is so upset about, it worked out really great when the Redskins signed Jeremiah Trotter, a young linebacker who had made a couple of Pro Bowls and had become disgruntled with his team . . . oh wait . . . And we didn't drop 25 spots in the first round to do that (NOBODY BUT THE REDSKINS WOULD EVEN TALK ABOUT DOING THAT!). From the sources this story is coming from (Schefter, Glazer, Pasquarelli) I can do nothing but believe that this is absolutely true and the Bears would be crazy not to make that deal. I'm treating this as a fait accompli until I hear otherwise . . . I'm officially on suicide watch . . .

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Big C;291584]we still have a first round pick though if it happens, so instead of getting just 1 player at 6 we get a pro bowler who is in his prime and a low first round pick. i think a lot of people are reacting poorly because they are excited about the draft and want to see us have a high pick, or have their hearts set on trading down. this trade wouldnt be as bad as its made out to be. there are tons of good DE's in this draft, and from what ive heard from sirius nfl radio good prospects at DE can be had later on in the 1st round and even the 2nd round. they even said the DE prospects are all very similar throughout the top part[/QUOTE]

But what about defensive tackles? Because that's our biggest need.