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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;342135]All I meant with the network comparisons is don't act like it's only ESPN.

As for the apologist/spokesperson part, I mean it's only natural for ESPN to get grief. When you're at the top, people want to knock you down. I try not to let it get to me, but sometimes I just feel the need to point out what some people aren't aware of "behind the scenes"[/QUOTE]

While there is some validity to your point, as an insider myself (not at ESPN but previously at another national network) you have to admit these days the media 'creates' more out of a story than simply reporting it. There have been no less than 12 'experts' weighing in on the same story, saying the same things in different words. There is a difference between spinning a story forward and rehashing the same information we've had for 24 hours to fill up time on the rundown.

If I was the Bad Newz kennel funder
 

Vick should be bloodied, shot, electrocuted, hung or all together. Not to forget cropping his ears as a pup with a steak knife. Let's move on to subjects that warrant intelligent(us) people giving attention.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;342208]While there is some validity to your point, as an insider myself (not at ESPN but previously at another national network) you have to admit these days the media 'creates' more out of a story than simply reporting it. There have been no less than 12 'experts' weighing in on the same story, saying the same things in different words. There is a difference between spinning a story forward and rehashing the same information we've had for 24 hours to fill up time on the rundown.[/QUOTE]

True. It's a fine line really. We just got out of a two hour meeting here arguing over how much coverage we are and should/should not be giving Vick. Lest anyone think we don't think about these things.

CNNSI right?

Re: If I was the Bad Newz kennel funder
 

[quote=PhxRedSkin;342241]Vick should be bloodied, shot, electrocuted, hung or all together. Not to forget cropping his ears as a pup with a steak knife. Let's move on to subjects that warrant intelligent(us) people giving attention.[/quote]


You forgot drowned.

I've always been a proponent of punishing people with he crime THEY inflicted on someone else.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;342281]True. It's a fine line really. We just got out of a two hour meeting here arguing over how much coverage we are and should/should not be giving Vick. Lest anyone think we don't think about these things.

CNNSI right?[/QUOTE]

The ill fated marriage of a sports magazine and a sports department at a news organziation.. Fun while it lasted, happy I'm not doing it anymore.

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d801c1644&template=with-video&confirm=true]Vick files plea in federal court, admits dogfighting[/url]


So, let me get this straight. MV financed the whole operation but didn't get any of the proceeds from fights his dogs won? Yeah right.

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And if he was the owner of this operation, isn't he just as guilty as the the people who did kill the dogs? MV is such a liar its not even funny. I can't believe the feds are letting him plead to such a bullshit charge after all they put into this case.

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"Last April, Vick and two co-defendants tested the fighting skills of dogs and the three agreed to kill six to eight dogs that did not perform well. All were killed by various methods that included hanging and drowning."

"Most of the Bad Newz Kennels operation and gambling monies were provided by Vick."

I'm pretty sure this is enough to get him a substantial NFL ban. He ran the operation. He is so silly rich he didn't need any gambling winnings. He was in it for the blood not the money. He doesn't come out looking good.

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Check this out guys. Vicks new jersey is selling out like crazy!!

[url=http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/nfl_reports_strong_sales_of]NFL Reports Strong Sales Of Michael Vick's 2008 Jersey | The Onion - America's Finest News Source[/url]

*apologies if someone already posted this.

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I know, I know, its PFT and should be suspect. But, in difference to what I just heard on ESPN radio that said that [B]Michael Vick[/B] did NOT plea to gambling charges, PFT's blog host (whatever his name is) just posted that he has read the entire plea and [B]Vick admitted guilt to [B]EVERYTHING[/B]! Remember, even though PFT has issues, the guy is an attorney allegedly.

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Sorry, the link for those that care:

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm]ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet[/url]

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I agree dogfighting is despicable, but unfortunately the only people who know what happened at that ranch are those four guys charged. Vick has pleaded guilty, and will be punished for his actions. Is banning him for life really necessary? Vick will go to jail and be suspended by the NFL, and he will never be able to recoup what he once had. Seems like punishment enough to me, he'll forever be associated with dogfighting, but is the enemy Mike Vick or dogfighting?

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea
 

[quote=memphisskin;343593]I agree dogfighting is despicable, but unfortunately the only people who know what happened at that ranch are those four guys charged. Vick has pleaded guilty, and will be punished for his actions. Is banning him for life really necessary? Vick will go to jail and be suspended by the NFL, and he will never be able to recoup what he once had. Its mighty convenient how people want to punish Vick, and he deserves every minute of jail time he gets. However, since none of us actually knows the depth to which he was involved, and the statement of facts that he signed doesn't specify his level of involvement, then its hard for me to digest the level of vitriol and anger that this case has brought out.

To me, it smells of something else...[/quote]

C'mon don't even try to toss out the race card.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;343594]C'mon don't even try to toss out the race card.[/QUOTE]

Matty, I'm not. But its difficult as a black man to not see things through that lens. I think MV is an idiot and what he did is disgusting. But to have him banned for life because of dogfighting? C'mon man.

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Attempting to justify this heinous (perhaps pathological) crime with thinly veiled racial implications is shameful