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Redskin 10-21-2007 09:39 PM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
The negativity burns my eyessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Arizona is not a bad team more like a decent team. We won while playing terribly I think that is a good sign, maybe we got lucky or maybe we are a dangerous team when we play good and are firing on all cylinders

SouperMeister 10-21-2007 09:52 PM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
We have a defense that could carry us deep into the playoffs if the offense would hold up their end. I'm afraid that the offense will prevent us from making the playoffs altogether. At best, this looks like a 9-7 team to me.

skinsfan_nn 10-21-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
VERY SIMPLE....YES. We will get in and we will improve as these WINS keep on tickin.

Ugly or not today, and YES we were about to have a heart attack on the edge of our seats! But we found a way to get a W and in the end thats all that matters. Don't forget WE GAVE TWO away! Stole one.

We will continue to feed of our defense, the offense will improve as we get healthy & will will peak at the right time. 10 WINS comin up!

irish 10-22-2007 08:08 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
The Skins are not even the best team in their division at this point so currently I think they are a wild card team at best. But the wild card is still the playoff and anything can happen in the playoffs.

I just think this team makes too many mistakes and the O is not good enough to take them very far in the playoffs.

Rajmahal33 10-22-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
Someone earlier said being a "playoff team" and being a "playoff caliber team" are different and I couldn't agree more. We are not a playoff caliber team until our line gets healthy again. We may be a playoff team at the end of the season b/c our schedule isn't too tough. Outside of NE, we don't have any real tough non conference games (i dont think TB is very good). And conference games are a toss-up so if we can go 2-2 i think we'll be ok.

There was a bit of a quicksand feel to the game yesterday, esp after the penalty sustained scoring drive by mistakes from Fletcher and Landry. So I don't think there's a need to overreact about the defense. What gets me is that the offense did absolutely nothing in the 4th quarter again. I'm beginning to really believe that its a conditioning issue more than anything else (esp with the line). Backup offensive linemen usually make up for what they lack in skill and size with hussle and that doesn't seem to be the case with us. Next year we had better get guys working their butts off in training camp.

#56fanatic 10-22-2007 09:05 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
I dont see how we can be at this point in the season. I think we struggle way to much on offense to try and figure out who or what kind of team we are offensively. We CAN NOT run the football. Our magnificant staff has to figure out a way to move the ball. Our defense has been playing really good football until the end of the game when they exposed the weak part of that defense (deep middle) our corners, for the life of me, I can not explain why they play so freaking far off the receivers when they only need to move the ball 10 to 15 yards to get in FG range. they were 8 to 10 yards off at the snap.

playoffs? I just in my right mind say yes right now. Dallas, NY Giants are better than we are right now. Tampa, Seattle are better. Chicago is playing better and only getting better with Greise (spelling???) WE are 4-2 right now, but games with NE, 2 against dallas, another against philly and NY, i just dont know.

skinsnut 10-22-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;367091]well here's my thing...while the cards are not horrible by any means, we had them down and were in complete control of the game...and if fletcher doesn't do that f'ing stupid taunting, i really don't think this game ends up that close.

that being said, the playcalling is just bad. i realize our o-line is decimated, so why not use more screens, roll out passes, WR screens, quick slant passes...plays that get away from the lines protection. i just don't get this very vanilla conservative calling that doesn't produce any results.[/QUOTE]

On one hand, I like your rollout idea to deal with the crappy line, but it pretty much eliminates half the field...how about shifting our offense to shotgun with portis draws as the running threat?....the only problem with that is our WR seem to all have hamstring injuries and cant get separation.

Why does everyone on the offense seem to pull so many muscles?
You got it....they aint stretching, so they are getting hurt.
Anyone know if the defense has a different trainer or something?
If so...someone in house is responsible for all these injuries....moss, ARE, the O line...etc

Sean Taylor 10-22-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;367094]Not sure what you were watching but we DID try more screens than usual, and one ended up getting picked off right before the half.

Let's give the Cards D some credit, they bottled things up pretty good all day.[/QUOTE]

That was a horrible play. Campbell really showed his inexperience on that one. We are up 14-0 and our defense shuts them out on 4th down. I know we all want to score but maybe a run wouldn't be the worst call there. Ok, maybe pass it over the defender properly but NEVER throw a pick on the VERY next play. Come on man!!! That game should have been 17 or 21 nothing at half with Skins getting the ball after halftime. NEVER should have been a game at all.

skinsnut 10-22-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
[B]We are not a playoff caliber team right now. Our O-Line is decimated by injury and our coaching staff cannot make halftime adjustments, on both sides of the ball (which I don't understand this problem because Gibbs 1.0 was the master of halftime adjustments). Portis doesn't have any explosiveness, we do not have any physical threats at WR, (including Moss because he's not 100%) and Campbell will still make some young QB mistakes.[/B]



Wow Sammy!

You just summed up "REDSKINS 07 PROBLEMS" perfectly in one paragraph

Excellent post

MTK 10-22-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
[quote=Sean Taylor;367413]That was a horrible play. Campbell really showed his inexperience on that one. We are up 14-0 and our defense shuts them out on 4th down. I know we all want to score but maybe a run wouldn't be the worst call there. Ok, maybe pass it over the defender properly but NEVER throw a pick on the VERY next play. Come on man!!! That game should have been 17 or 21 nothing at half with Skins getting the ball after halftime. NEVER should have been a game at all.[/quote]

LOL damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If we just ran and didn't try to move the ball people would be bitching that we needed to be more aggressive.

The screen RB screen is a pretty safe call, JC didn't get enough air under his pass and the D made a nice play.

I can't fault the call though, I liked the fact we were trying to move the ball and weren't content on sitting on it and running out the half.

Sean Taylor 10-22-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Are a we playoff team?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;367416]LOL damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If we just ran and didn't try to move the ball people would be bitching that we needed to be more aggressive.

The screen RB screen is a pretty safe call, JC didn't get enough air under his pass and the D made a nice play.

I can't fault the call though, I liked the fact we were trying to move the ball and weren't content on sitting on it and running out the half.[/QUOTE]

Well it looked like shit. I'm never negative but I call it like I see it. That series would have ended that game and we didi about the only thing to keep them in it. All this bullcrap about the line being hurt and that's why they didn't let Campbell throw. I watched ever snap like you all and Campbell had his worst game of the year. He overthrew balls and was never even close to a rythm out there. How about a three step drop and slant or hook or 5 step bomb to go for the throat on that 1st play? That screen wasn't a good call because there were only two defensive linemen rushing on that play. One happened to tip it to the other fat ass who caught a gift. Screen is best on blitzes or at least 4 to 5 man rush.

BigSKINBauer 10-22-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
We definitely are a playoff team when we have beat teams that will contend for that wildcard spot. Both detriot and arizona were teams that can take it. We need those tiebreakers. We are in great shape right now. So yes, we are a playoff team and i don't think many teams in the NFC are better than us, even though they probably will have a couple extra wins at the end of the season. The only teams that scare me are the cowboys and the giants. We will get a feel for them in the regular season and when playoff time roles around and we play either team for the third time i am more confident in our coaches to breakdown the other team with the experience from the regular season, than the coaches on those teamss.

skinsnut 10-22-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
This could be a game where we realize we cant "run first" this year.
Our line either has to radically change or we need to change our offensive philosopy.
I dont know who always says this...but right now I think we need to shift.
"Pass to open up the run."

We may have to go shotgun 40% of the time. Even on first downs....try hurry up too.
This offense cant play smashmouth anymore....we need to deal with that reality.
Yes, we can do this 3 times with Sellers if it is first and goal at the 3....but 10 yards running the old school way is likely part of the past with this line.

Betts has returned to his standard "backup" running that we've seen for years and something is wrong with Portis anyways. (The reason Betts rocked last year was due to the line, we were all suprised at how well he did, because we knew him)

[B]Gibbs needs to make Campbell throw the ball early to get in synch with receivers[/B]...that didn't happen because of conservative playcalling due to the Oline injuries.
He never got in synch and that hurts his development as much as sacks.
It reminded me of the Brunell days.
This guy has a rifle of an arm....it is time to trust him and chuck it!
and c'mon Gibbs.....3 TDs and 1 int is better than 1 TD and zero picks if you know what I mean....you cant live in fear of picks and win!
You are just handcuffing our best offensive weapon.

YES, you heard me....due to crappiness of others.....I just said.
[B]Jason Campbell is our BEST OFFENSIVE WEAPON right now.[/B]

USE EM....he doesn't lose games due to his mistakes.

skinsnut 10-22-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;367423]We definitely are a playoff team when we have beat teams that will contend for that wildcard spot. Both detriot and arizona were teams that can take it. We need those tiebreakers. We are in great shape right now. So yes, we are a playoff team and i don't think many teams in the NFC are better than us, even though they probably will have a couple extra wins at the end of the season. The only teams that scare me are the cowboys and the giants. We will get a feel for them in the regular season and when playoff time roles around and we play either team for the third time i am more confident in our coaches to breakdown the other team with the experience from the regular season, than the coaches on those teamss.[/QUOTE]

Interesting that the 2 teams that scare you happen to be in our division.
I tend to agree with you, which is why I think we are NOT a playoff caliber team. We are 3rd in our own division out of 4 teams for heavens sake. And we are talking about the PLAYOFFS.....PLAYOFFS?

The Zimmermans 10-22-2007 10:50 AM

Re: Are we a playoff team?
 
I'm just afraid of the lose mentality we have......."every game is gonna come down to the wire" "this league is like that" "tough fought victory". We will never make it to the superbowl with this loser mentality.


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