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[quote=That Guy;467813]dick cheney has a gay daughter right? so i guess he can't be a republican now can he?
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No, but he's still a member of a party that believes his daughter is hell bound. A party that wants a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. It's like belonging to a party that believe you're child is not equal.

[quote=That Guy;467813]
you ignorance lies in how you talk about this vague republican "thing" as if it's f'ing satan and all that's wrong with everything, even though there a lot of republicans that aren't what you say they are.

i mean, i somehow doubt the republicans in chicago have any use for a confederate flag.
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I'm talking party platform. It's still trash irrespective of whether some of the party members don't share the same view.


[quote=That Guy;467813]
this ignorance is the mindless droning on about how evil a certain affiliation is with a blatant disregard to facts. you're speaking in absolutes, using strawmen, going over the top and reverting to name calling and some sort of gotcha game befitting a 12 year old.
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You keep telling me I'm ignorant and such but you don't tell me what the current Republican party offer. What there is to like about them.


[quote=That Guy;467813] i mean, you've got nothing but love for the dems, who apparently can do no wrong, and nothing but mindless consuming hate for a label that's not nearly as inclusive as you think.
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If you say so, but I tell you what, the Dems are certainly more inclusive than the other party.


[quote=That Guy;467813]as for greed, dems have plenty of pork barrel spending, vote to raise their salaries, and some conservative dems do vote for tax cuts for themselves, so i guess their also insanely greedy bastards too. and since you're a dem, i'll throw you in with them, since that seems to be the cool thing to do.

so, yeah, stop being so selfish and greedy :P

see why that doesn't work?[/quote]

The Blue Dogs are disgraceful. I don't really care for them or certain democrats. Are you happy? I do like the Democrats' platform though.

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[QUOTE=Buster;467842]def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and tells the truth about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.[/QUOTE]

And what lie did John Kerry tell? Please do not offer links to Fox News articles.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;467892]It's only a sinister plot when the other guy is doing it.[/quote]

Give me facts and you have yourself the truth. Flexing your imagination is not the truth.

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[quote=Buster;467842]def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and [B]tells the truth[/B] about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.[/quote]
sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.

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[quote=SmootSmack;467822]I agree with you on the first four paragraphs. I don't know though that saden is a Democrat though. I can't say for sure, but I seem to have remember him having some choice words for that party a few months back. I think he just wants Obama in office, more importantly he doesn't want McCain there. But I don't know that he's a card carrying member of the Dem Party[/quote]

saden1 doesn't care for the democratic party because he believes them to be a bunch of pussies. saden1 is no longer an Obama fan, in fact, he cut him off and stopped sending him money the day he voted for the FISA bill. saden1 hates lies and half truths. saden1 is an ethicist. saden1 doesn't like the Republican party one bit.

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;467905]sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.[/QUOTE]

Thats only because the Republican policy sucks so bad that they have to bash their opponent and descredit him or her. If they don't do that then they won't win any elections.

I agree to with the competency thing! I believe our President should be smart enough to know how many houses he owns!

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[quote=dmek25;467905]sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.[/quote]


I believe you have that backwards.

McCain has offered economic plans, energy plans that involve drilling and alternative forms of energy, a plan to complete the war in Iraq without suddenly surrendering, immigration ideas and many others.

Obama has preached about "change" and how he's "the chosen one". Please tell us what the change will be.

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

McCain not knowing how many homes he owns is not a big deal. Dude is loaded and his wife takes care of everything. What is a problem is him labeling Obama with the elitist tag and all the arugula talk.

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[QUOTE=Buster;467921]I believe you have that backwards.

McCain has offered economic plans, energy plans that involve drilling and alternative forms of energy, [B]a plan to complete the war in Iraq without suddenly surrendering[/B], immigration ideas and many others.

Obama has preached about "change" and how he's "the chosen one". Please tell us what the change will be.[/QUOTE]

"I don't know uhhhh maybe a hundred years" - John McCain on when we'll complete the war in Iraq without "Surrending".

Great plan John!

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[quote=Buster;467921]I believe you have that backwards.

McCain has offered economic plans, energy plans that involve drilling and alternative forms of energy, a plan to complete the war in Iraq without suddenly[B] surrendering[/B], [B]immigration ideas[/B] and many others.

Obama has preached about "change" and how he's "the chosen one". Please tell us what the change will be.[/quote]
i don't think anyone has ever used the word surrender. and i could give a rats ass about immigration. it seems like McCain's big energy plan is to offer a bounty for coming up with a new battery, and the gas tax holiday, which to me is a joke. are we in agreement that drilling isn't the answer. or maybe just short term? the change i look for is just a different way of doing things in Washington. not just the old status quo. a new face, with hopefully new ideas.

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but lets keep the debate on the issues. because Mr McCain has enough of his own skeletons. not to mention his wifes

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

For light entertainment and crazy...

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Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[QUOTE=saden1;467991]For light entertainment and crazy...

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Def nutso. I don't get why so many people see just the potential evil in others. I can disagree with people and not think they're bad. I disagree with a lot of what Obama believes but I'd drink a beer with the guy and talk basketball in a heart beat because he seems like a nice guy. Same with Bush.

Bill Clinton? Maybe but he's been a big dick for a while now. McCain? probably. Joe Biden? Not so much. He seems like a dick to me. Same with Cheney.

At the end of the day though whether I will vote someone has nothing to do with whether I like them on a personal note. Why anyone thinks Obama is some closet Muslim out to "get us" is beyond me and I wish those who tracked more with me politically would denounce that crap and talk about ideas.

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[quote=saden1;467991]For light entertainment and crazy...

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i wonder how much fox news paid those nut jobs?

Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;467861]Wait, I thought the original quote was that we were expecting a worse President after Bush.

Lincoln followed Buchanan - Arguably the greatest President ever.

Coolidge followed Harding - While not a "great" President, he presided over a period of prosperity, and is generally considered a good President.

F.D.R. followed Hoover - Certainly a great President and maybe the only other one in the same class as Lincoln and Washington.

If [I]either[/I] McCain [I]or[/I] Obama is the next Lincoln, F.D.R. or even Coolidge, I will: 1) Sit in the upper deck of the Linc in full Redskins attire shouting "Eagles suck"; and 2) discount all evidence of global warming as Hell most assuredly had frozen over.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, guess I misunderstood the original post. Damn my Republican ignorance!!!

I thought this was about a worse President at any point, not just the next President.