Re: Holt released by Rams
 

Holt's YPC has been slipping steadily since 2005. He didn't just hit the wall last year, the signs of his decline have been there for a few years now. He also has a knee problem that is scaring away some teams.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

^ Good arguement. However looking at the numbers I would almost trade Moss out with Holt. Both are injury prone now so that's a wash. Both are close in age so that's a wash Holt had 8 1,000+ yrd seasons compared to Moss's 3. One of those was last yr at 1,044. Holt had 1189 last yr. A whole 144 more yrds. For someone on the decline he's better then our #1. Having said all this I did not say trade Moss out for Holt.

I suggested trading a player who hardly gets balls thrown his way. One that hardly see's the field as a WR. Thrash. ...and if I'm not mistaken we carried 7 WR's on the team last yr 2 on the practice squad. If I'm correct that would be Holt, Moss, ARE, Thomas, and Kelly, and two non drafted rookies to try and develope. All 5 WR's should get enough playing time.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

I just don't think Holt is coming here to be part of a "WR by committee" where his part of the committee is as the No.2/3 and possibly 4th WR slot. If he is willing to come, great. I'd trade him out for Thrash in a heartbeat.

My guess is that there are several teams where he will be guarranteed a shot at the No. 1 spot or at least be the full time No. 2. Even with declining skills, and as others pointed out, he is an average to good WR with excellent work ethic and habits.

He will probably have a fairly good choice of places to land and get paid solid money (2 to 2.5 times vet min.) with a guarrantee to be a regular starter. I just don't see us paying him that much to be part of the WR committee.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;537542]I just don't think Holt is coming here to be part of a "WR by committee" where his part of the committee is as the No.2/3 and possibly 4th WR slot. If he is willing to come, great. I'd trade him out for Thrash in a heartbeat.

My guess is that there are several teams where he will be guarranteed a shot at the No. 1 spot or at least be the full time No. 2. Even with declining skills, and as others pointed out, he is an average to good WR with excellent work ethic and habits.

He will probably have a fairly good choice of places to land and get paid solid money (2 to 2.5 times vet min.) with a guarrantee to be a regular starter. I just don't see us paying him that much to be part of the WR committee.[/quote]

Finally a good arguement. I can't dissagree. I know there are other teams who would make him their #1 and he would get #1 pay. I just don't buy the whole He's no longer good. but it would be nice if he did take the Skins into consideration and decided he would like to be here. Most likely not though. I'm done. Peace.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=SBXVII;537622]Finally a good arguement. I can't dissagree. I know there are other teams who would make him their #1 and he would get #1 pay. I just don't buy the whole He's no longer good. but it would be nice if he did take the Skins into consideration and decided he would like to be here. Most likely not though. I'm done. Peace.[/quote]

I think several people have been trying to make that same point...but I guess Mr. Laywer Man has a special way with words

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=SBXVII;537622]Finally a good arguement. I can't dissagree. I know there are other teams who would make him their #1 and he would get #1 pay. I just don't buy the whole He's no longer good. but it would be nice if he did take the Skins into consideration and decided he would like to be here. Most likely not though. I'm done. Peace.[/quote]

This is a good argument.
I personally think someone will pay him #2 money however particularly due to his age

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

Henry Ellard was on the "downslide" when he signed with us and played great.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=SmootSmack;537681]I think several people have been trying to make that same point...but I guess [B]Mr. Laywer Man[/B] has a special way with words[/quote]

What's a Laywer Man? Is that someone who pwactices Waw? :)

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=SBXVII;537622]Finally a good arguement. I can't dissagree. I know there are other teams who would make him their #1 and he would get #1 pay. I just don't buy the whole He's no longer good. but it would be nice if he did take the Skins into consideration and decided he would like to be here. Most likely not though. I'm done. Peace.[/quote]

I think myself and alot of others have said the same thing. Guess you were in denial.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

When you draft receivers and a TE with your first three picks, that's it, you are riding with those guys for the next few seasons. If they don't pan out you'll probably get fired (although it's kind of hard to get fired from the Redskins). If they are great you'll get a raise. But regardless, that's your receiving core, and the fact that some other player may theoretically be better than them is irrelevant. If we had drafted three Dlinemen with those picks you can assume we wouldn't have signed Haynesworth. This is how football works.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=53Fan;537728]What's a Laywer Man? Is that someone who pwactices Waw? :)[/quote]

Cowwect

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

I could see New England taking a chance on him.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=53Fan;537728]What's a Laywer Man? Is that someone who pwactices Waw? :)[/quote]

I keep pwacticing, but I never seem to get it wight.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=SmootSmack;537681]I think several people have been trying to make that same point...but I guess Mr. Laywer Man has a special way with words[/quote]

You're just jealous 'cause good speak with words I can - from Yoda, learned I.

Re: Holt released by Rams
 

[quote=John Denny;537727]Henry Ellard was on the "downslide" when he signed with us and played great.[/quote]

We needed him to. We have 5 WRs right now, 2 which we need to develop for the long-term. Kelly and Thomas do not need ANOTHER veteran in front of them.