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[quote=53Fan;600029]I would agree with you TMC except that Tennessee seemed to do just fine w/AH playing the way he does. I know that the "D" in general are missing a lot of tackles.[/quote]

Sadly I think it's our corners. I never want to see Smoot on the field again. I love the guy but he doesn't even belong on an NFL roster. In limited time this year, Tryon has actually played well in the regular season. I wouldn't even be opposed to picking up a vet DB right now.

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[quote=Beemnseven;600032]The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.[/quote]

But when someone goes max protect, you'd assume we'd have more DBs than they do WRs to throw the ball to.

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[quote=Beemnseven;600032]The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.[/quote]Kind of like TMC said, the only time it makes sense to blitz into a max protect is when you are trying to take advantage of a specific match-up. I'm pretty sure Blache isn't smart enough to find one.

The proper way to defend the max protect is to go the other way and drop into 8 man coverage and force the quarterback to get impatient and throw ill-advised interceptions because he can't find anyone open. But by rushing four the whole game and giving Stafford only two to three different coverages to look at, he basically kept giving him one on one matchups and a clean pocket to throw from. The only way you can win that is if you win your one on ones (Rogers v. Bryant Johnson, and Smoot v. whoever). Rogers performed badly and Smoot just sucks.

But a 3 man rush with 6 guys in intermediate/deep coverage would have been the best way to go against the max protect, IMO. I don't understand: Blache figured this out against Flacco last year, and they used an identical scheme. Perhaps the difference was the Rogers won 90% of his matchups against Mason last year and only 30% of his matchups against Bryant Johnson. If that's the big difference, well, Blache needs to do better, but it's hardly all his fault.

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For me, I thought Bryant Johnson just had the game of his life. Rogers had very good coverage but Johnson was making some insane catches.

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GTripp -- who would be your favorite D-coordinator, past or present?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;598702]Forecast calls for loss with possible chance for intermitent heavy boos. There is flood watch during 3-4pm as FedEx may be flooded with heavy booing.[/quote]
Well I will have to disagree and I think that the Redskins are going to kill the Bucs, 32 - 0.

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[quote=TaylorLandry2130;600128]Well I will have to disagree and I think that the Redskins are going to kill the Bucs, 32 - 0.[/quote]

Nice first post TaylorLandry2130. Welcome to THE WARPATH! You'll be hearing from Skinny Tee shortly. :)

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[quote=Beemnseven;600126]GTripp -- who would be your favorite D-coordinator, past or present?[/quote]Hmmm. Tough one.

Tony Dungy or Monte Kiffin probably. I don't know if Dungy was actually ever a coordinator, but "Tampa Bay 1996-2008" probably best answers the question.

Love me some Dick (LeBeau) as well.

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Ritchie Pettibone...........

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[quote=Hog1;600152]Ritchie Pettibone...........[/quote]Great call.

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[quote=GTripp0012;600086]Kind of like TMC said, the only time it makes sense to blitz into a max protect is when you are trying to take advantage of a specific match-up. I'm pretty sure Blache isn't smart enough to find one.

The proper way to defend the max protect is to go the other way and drop into 8 man coverage and force the quarterback to get impatient and throw ill-advised interceptions because he can't find anyone open. But by rushing four the whole game and giving Stafford only two to three different coverages to look at, he basically kept giving him one on one matchups and a clean pocket to throw from. The only way you can win that is if you win your one on ones (Rogers v. Bryant Johnson, and Smoot v. whoever). Rogers performed badly and Smoot just sucks.

But a 3 man rush with 6 guys in intermediate/deep coverage would have been the best way to go against the max protect, IMO. I don't understand: Blache figured this out against Flacco last year, and they used an identical scheme. Perhaps the difference was the Rogers won 90% of his matchups against Mason last year and only 30% of his matchups against Bryant Johnson. If that's the big difference, well, Blache needs to do better, but it's hardly all his fault.[/quote]

I'd say that whatever the Vikes and Saints did to force 5 INTs the first 2 games would have been the way to go. Give Stafford some credit though. Even when we did put some pressure on him, he was able to move around in the pocket or scramble out of the pocket to buy more time. But then again, our DEs blow. They can't run down anyone.

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Tampa's D is worse than ours. They are 31st is rush yds/gm at 187. I believe our run game will put up over 120 yds. on them. I think Zorn will adjust and go to a more straight ahead run game. I also believe the RZ issues will be corrected against a bad Tampa D.

Defensively Johnson can move and against mobile QBs we have historically had some trouble. I don't think Blache will alter his scheme very much to keep the young QB off balance. Given time he will gain confidence and that's dangerous. Tampa will move the ball, but Johnson's inexperience and making a mistake somewhere will be the difference.

Skins 30
Bucs 23

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[quote=GTripp0012;600131]Hmmm. Tough one.

Tony Dungy or Monte Kiffin probably. I don't know if Dungy was actually ever a coordinator, but "Tampa Bay 1996-2008" probably best answers the question.

[B]Love me some Dick[/B] (LeBeau) as well.[/quote]

That's what she said...

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If we win sun we are .500 and with the rest of the season ahead of us. It will be like starting all over I still feel good about the year, we just got some early wake up calls. So lets see what type of team we got,no finger pionting, thats good now i want to see how they come together at home. HTTR!

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We Win... why not right?.... TB isnt good. We Can do this.

They just cant give up already. Too early to quit.