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bedlamVR 02-25-2010 03:21 AM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
I like Rogers when he is allowed to play to his strengths . Rogers was taken to be like a Nate Clements type CB and if anything Rogers is more physical than Clements .

Saying Rogers has always had an issue with every coaching staff no matter who he has worked with is a little disingenuous because it is the same defensive coaching staff under Gibbs and under Zorn and I have to say there seemed to be an awful lot of unhappy campers on the D last year, there was a lack of cohesiveness and a lack of leadership ... I guess that's what happens when Blanche quits on you in week four ..

We should tender him and look to use him in a way that builds to his strengths . To me the lack of catches and ints is not as important for me as the number of catches he prevents . It is not as sexy a statistic but I would love to find somewhere which shows the number of 5+ catch / 100yard games a reciever had ....

SmootSmack 02-25-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;665174]These comments where posted via twitter by 106.7 dafan. Apparently they had a interview with Rogers, who now wants to be on the team. He was upset with the coaching staff and now that they are gone he wants to stay a skin...

1067thefandc Spoke to #Redskins CB C.Rogers via phone:“I definitely want to be here, especially after the coaching change — but it is in their hands” -CR

1067thefandc #Redskins RFA CB C.Rogers: “We never changed. I got beat several times. I'm sorry. That’s what happens when you play man & don’t change"-CR

1067thefandc #Redskins CB C.Rogers: "I am a starter in the league, and a lot of teams wanted to try to trade for me, and they would not let me go.” -CR

1067thefandc #Redskins CB C.Rogers on Landry: “Laron is a good player. They just tell him to do too many different things. So he gets confused a lot."-CR


Should we keep him? what do you think, discuss...[/quote]

The full interview

[url=http://1067thefandc.radio.com/2010/02/25/redskins-rogers-i-want-to-be-here/]Redskins’ Rogers: “I want to be here” « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio[/url]

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
“We were 6-2 in our first 8 games, and it was Carlos this and Carlos that. I was playing really good.” Rogers was referring to the first 8 games of the 2008 season under ex-head coach Jim Zorn and with Blache running the defense.

“Then in the 2nd Half – we bring in D-Hall and (Shawn) Springs gets healthy — and me and Smootie (Fred Smoot) get pushed back. We were carrying the team!”

Rogers described how they gave up on Smoot in the Giants game at home on a sloppy day, and even though he was matching up and shutting down top receivers, eventually the decision was made to remove Rogers from the starting lineup.

“They didn’t even tell me,” Rogers said. “Jerry (Gray) had told me they were thinking about a change, but I was practicing with the 1’s, I warmed up with the 1’s that day (in Cincinnati) and then they told me in the tunnel.”

Rogers said he had an ally in Gray, who always fought for his guys. “Jerry said he went to Coach Zorn and Blache, and told them they were making dumb moves.” Gray is now in Seattle, Springs spent last year in New England and Blache is retired but to close the book on Zorn’s first year, Rogers simply said “Everyone knew Springs was Blache’s boy.”

heard stuff like that happened all too often

53Fan 02-25-2010 03:49 PM

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^ Interesting stuff Tryfuhl. The remark about Springs being Blache's boy rings true to the impression I have of him. Personally I'm glad Blache is gone. He was stuck in his system and it's time for change. I'd like someone who adjusts the system to the talent on the team and starts guys on merit, not favoritism.

GridIron26 02-25-2010 03:55 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
I would be totally pissed off at coaches if they did to me, just like what the coaches did to Rogers.. It does influence your mental set; once you know that your coaches don't have faith in you, you lose the confidences..

I hope Rogers will show his abilities all year long for next season - enough to warrant an extension contract.. I'm also glad to know that Rogers still knows that he DEFINITELY needs to continue working on catching balls..

Edit: I second what 53fan said..

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 04:03 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=53Fan;666260]^ Interesting stuff Tryfuhl. The remark about Springs being Blache's boy rings true to the impression I have of him. Personally I'm glad Blache is gone. He was stuck in his system and it's time for change. I'd like someone who adjusts the system to the talent on the team and starts guys on merit, not favoritism.[/quote]
Exactly; I've been hearing a lot of that lately too, coaches being faulted for this, on offense and defense both from football guys.

I thought that Rogers preferred man, but maybe not. Maybe it was just too much and he wanted better balance. Very interesting to hear him say we were blitzing a lot in man but getting no penetration.

GridIron, I know what you mean. You're all pumped and ready to go with no indication that you won't be starting and they don't tell you until the game is about to begin? Tell the guy earlier in the week and let him get it out of his system; there you've got him heated and confused right before the damn game.

53Fan 02-25-2010 04:11 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=tryfuhl;666277]Exactly; I've been hearing a lot of that lately too, coaches being faulted for this, on offense and defense both from football guys.

I thought that Rogers preferred man, but maybe not. Maybe it was just too much and he wanted better balance. Very interesting to hear him say we were blitzing a lot in man but [B]getting no penetration[/B].

GridIron, I know what you mean. You're all pumped and ready to go with no indication that you won't be starting and they don't tell you until the game is about to begin? Tell the guy earlier in the week and let him get it out of his system; there you've got him heated and confused right before the damn game.[/quote]

That definitely sucks. :D

bedlamVR 02-25-2010 09:01 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
I thought Rogers liked man but I always thought he was more of a press man and it is hard to play with that physicality when you are off the WR by 10-15 yards ...

I also think it was interesting that up until the point at which Zorn was fired and Cerratto had gone Gray wanted out of the Redskins ... once they went he interviewed for DC . Coupled with those comments does make me think there were some major clashes behind closed doors .

GTripp0012 02-25-2010 09:54 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
Springs really must have had an in. He didn't even go to Georgia.

GTripp0012 02-25-2010 09:57 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=tryfuhl;666277]Exactly; I've been hearing a lot of that lately too, coaches being faulted for this, on offense and defense both from football guys.

I thought that Rogers preferred man, but maybe not. Maybe it was just too much and he wanted better balance. Very interesting to hear him say we were blitzing a lot in man but getting no penetration.

GridIron, I know what you mean. You're all pumped and ready to go with no indication that you won't be starting and they don't tell you until the game is about to begin? Tell the guy earlier in the week and let him get it out of his system; there you've got him heated and confused right before the damn game.[/quote]Williams played a lot of man, and we played a lot of zone last year, but the coverages the last two years have been predominantly "odd" coverages. Which mean that Rogers/Smoot don't have any help, and that their first responsibility is to not get beat deep.

Theoretically, Landry should be the deepest man, but he was basically a non factor back there anyway. Rather than adjust and allow Rogers to play closer to the line of scrimmage by moving Landry, we just backed Landry deeper and had Rogers play Hall-style.

Which is why, in my estimation, his coverage numbers look like Hall's this year. Blache's pass defense: when in doubt, back up.

Mechanix544 02-25-2010 10:39 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
lol, before the play starts.................back up

WaldSkins 02-26-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
Any word if we are going to tender Rogers?

ChickenMonkey 02-26-2010 09:50 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
After hearing Rogers comments, I'd say tender him 2nd and 3rd round tender , and attempt to trade him during the draft.....FA Duanta Robinson has been rumored to be on the radar for the Skins, Id rather shell out the money to pay him than to pay Rogers....
Robinson has 13 interceptions over his 6yrs in the league...even after missing 14 games due to injury

Dirtbag59 02-26-2010 10:57 PM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=WaldSkins;666804]Any word if we are going to tender Rogers?[/quote]

It's not really a question of if, so much as it is what?

tryfuhl 02-27-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers
 
[quote=GTripp0012;666413]Williams played a lot of man, and we played a lot of zone last year, but the coverages the last two years have been predominantly "odd" coverages. Which mean that Rogers/Smoot don't have any help, and that their first responsibility is to not get beat deep.

Theoretically, Landry should be the deepest man, but he was basically a non factor back there anyway. Rather than adjust and allow Rogers to play closer to the line of scrimmage by moving Landry, we just backed Landry deeper and had Rogers play Hall-style.

Which is why, in my estimation, his coverage numbers look like Hall's this year. Blache's pass defense: when in doubt, back up.[/quote]
Thanks for the insight on that.


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