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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;699906]Bottom line, AH should be here, but it's not required so he doesn't have to. Not much MS can do, he can't violate the terms of the CBA.

In any business situation where you require a team effort from 50+ people and everyone else is going "over and above" and you decide to only work your M-F, 8x5, you're a selfish person with no loyalty to your teammates or the organization. Period, end of story.[/quote]

Your analogy is incorrect. I think a more accurate one would be.....'during our [B]summer vacation period [/B]while the plant is closed, our company is offering voluntary training for all employees for the purpose of self improvement. While this training is free and beneficial to your career, it is not mandatory, it is voluntary. But if you do not attend this voluntary training your boss will publicly point you out and make you public enemy #1. But this how NFL coaches behave.

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I think, and have almost forever thought (except as where posts to the contrary can be found and thus proven I had thought differently at that point), that comparisons of football to business is ultimately ridiculous, because the numbers are out of whack with what most of us would consider normal. Thus the analogy falls apart because human nature resets at the higher level. Now to use an analogy where I just said they weren't applicable. If one of a sales team's top sales makers accomplished the impressive numbers but never came to the sales rah rah meetings sure the others would be upset, and management would rattle their fist, but in the end the top money maker would be allowed to follow their plan because the company is making beaucoup bucks off of him. Likewise, AH can act ridiculous because the Skins make beaucoup bucks off of marketing, and even the publicity of AH will make for great drama in the regular season.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;699922][B]I think, and have almost forever thought (except as where posts to the contrary can be found and thus proven I had thought differently at that point),[/B] that comparisons of football to business is ultimately ridiculous, because the numbers are out of whack with what most of us would consider normal. Thus the analogy falls apart because human nature resets at the higher level. Now to use an analogy where I just said they weren't applicable. If one of a sales team's top sales makers accomplished the impressive numbers but never came to the sales rah rah meetings sure the others would be upset, and management would rattle their fist, but in the end the top money maker would be allowed to follow their plan because the company is making beaucoup bucks off of him. Likewise, AH can act ridiculous because the Skins make beaucoup bucks off of marketing, and even the publicity of AH will make for great drama in the regular season.[/quote]

I agree, except in cases where there is written proof that I don't.

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To all of you who think people like me are just getting "our panties in a bunch", what is going to motivate AH to be in prime shape and give the skins his 100% effort this season?

the 3.8 million he is set to make this year and the next few years?

I think anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall in this situation is being overly optimistic.

would i love AH to honor the remainder of his contract? a big f'in yes

do i think AH is going to play 100% for 3.8 million a year for the next 3 years? hell f'in no

sometimes you all just like to stick your head in the sand and not worry about anything until shit hits you in the face.

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[quote=over the mountain;699929]To all of you who think people like me are just getting "our panties in a bunch", what is going to motivate AH to be in prime shape and give the skins his 100% effort this season?

the 3.8 million he is set to make this year and the next few years?

I think anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall in this situation is being overly optimistic.

would i love AH to honor the remainder of his contract? a big f'in yes

do i think AH is going to play 100% for 3.8 million a year for the next 3 years? hell f'in no

[B]sometimes you all just like to stick your head in the sand and not worry about anything until shit hits you in the face[/B].[/quote]

It would be hard for shit to hit you in the face while your head's in the sand wouldn't it Mountain?

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lol just answer the question 53 ya smart ass

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This is becoming the type of distraction the Redskins don't need right now. I hope they can just find a way to get this guy out of town. If we can get a conditional second, I think the Skins will move him.

I'd much rather that he was here making the team better but it seems he's not too worried about the team right now, so why should the team worry about him.

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:lol: Gotcha mountain. :)

Re: Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly
 

[quote=over the mountain;699929]To all of you who think people like me are just getting "our panties in a bunch", what is going to motivate AH to be in prime shape and give the skins his 100% effort this season?

the 3.8 million he is set to make this year and the next few years?

I think anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall in this situation is being overly optimistic.

would i love AH to honor the remainder of his contract? a big f'in yes

do i think AH is going to play 100% for 3.8 million a year for the next 3 years? hell f'in no

sometimes you all just like to stick your head in the sand and not worry about anything until shit hits you in the face.[/quote]
wow, like me flippin a bird at AH now will make me feel better when in 2 years we cut him because he hasn't played up to his expectations? I get that the purpose of this board is to express our frustrations, but I tend to think people who are freaking out over AH missing VOLUNTARY work outs, are simply doing so in order to say I told you so when it happens.

Maybe AH thinks that because he doesn't go to U of T anymore he's not a volunteer. Maybe this is all just a simple confusion based on his college team's name. Somebody call him up and tell him once a volunteer, always a volunteer.

Then we can put this to rest

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;699939]wow, like me flippin a bird at AH now will make me feel better when in 2 years we cut him because he hasn't played up to his expectations? I get that the purpose of this board is to express our frustrations, but I tend to think people who are freaking out over AH missing VOLUNTARY work outs, are simply doing so in order to say I told you so when it happens.

[B]Maybe AH thinks that because he doesn't go to U of T anymore he's not a volunteer. Maybe this is all just a simple confusion based on his college team's name. Somebody call him up and tell him once a volunteer, always a volunteer.[/B]

Then we can put this to rest[/quote]

I think we finally have a logical solution to this. Good work CRR. For every problem there is a solution.

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[quote=53Fan;699931]It would be hard for shit to hit you in the face while your head's in the sand wouldn't it Mountain?[/quote]

Well it depends how far in the sand your head is, plus the speed at which the shit is being thrown at you. Although getting hit by shit in any part of the body would be bad either way. LOL.

Re: Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;699939]wow, like me flippin a bird at AH now will make me feel better when in 2 years we cut him because he hasn't played up to his expectations? I get that the purpose of this board is to express our frustrations, but I tend to think people who are freaking out over AH missing VOLUNTARY work outs, are simply doing so in order to say I told you so when it happens.

Maybe AH thinks that because he doesn't go to U of T anymore he's not a volunteer. Maybe this is all just a simple confusion based on his college team's name. Somebody call him up and tell him once a volunteer, always a volunteer.

Then we can put this to rest[/quote]

No, no, no...it's not that he's just missing voluntary workouts; why do we keep missing the point?

The dude is beefing with the coaching staff while he's missing voluntary workouts. He's publicly stated he doesn't want to play NT, so how does missing workouts make you more prepared to do something the coaching staff plan on implementing regardless? If there's any year that he needs to be in camp a little early, it's this year! That's the point.

It behooves Haynesworth, in the interest of making the Redskins a better team, to learn every facet of Hasslet's scheme sooner rather than later. The first time Fat Al gets winded or limps off the field, twists an ankle --anything-- this city will eat him alive Monday morning.

The only way this shit goes away if a) The Redskins exceed expectations and turn in a playoff year, or b) Haynesworth has a monster year. And I'm talking Reggie White monster year. Anything less and the shit hits the fan.

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[quote=12thMan;699945]No, no, no...it's not that he's just missing voluntary workouts; why do we keep missing the point?

[B]The dude is beefing with the coaching staff while he's missing voluntary workouts. He's publicly stated he doesn't want to play NT, so how does missing workouts make you more prepared to do something the coaching staff plan on implementing regardless? If there's any year that he needs to be in camp a little early, it's this year! That's the point. [/B]

It behooves Haynesworth, in the interest of making the Redskins a better team, to learn every facet of Hasslet's scheme sooner rather than later. The first time Fat Al gets winded or limps off the field, twists an ankle --anything-- this city will eat him alive Monday morning.

The only way this shit goes away if a) The Redskins exceed expectations and turn in a playoff year, or b) Haynesworth has a monster year. And I'm talking Reggie White monster year. Anything less and the shit hits the fan.[/quote]

You sure about all that?

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Can anyone please please please link an article which says AH is upset about NT? He said he wasnt thrilled about it, but will play whatever he is asked to play by the coaches.

Furthermore, he has stated he is doing this offseason plan as he feels it got him in shape in TN.

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Am I missing something here?