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skinsfan69 05-02-2011 08:07 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;800134]First off, the FO did a great job in acquiring picks and I loved the philosophy. I think the last 4 picks were arguable the best at a value standpoint outside of Hankerson. I didnt like the WR and CB/S picks from Nebraska...I think much much better picks out there at that point.

I think this draft was the most surprising and intriguing not only from the Skins viewpoint which it certainly was, but in general leaguewide. Its because of the lockout and no free agency...but wow, very interesting. Alot of stuff just didnt make sense ie all those 3rd and 4th round QB going in the 1st and 2nd. The second round was just insane to me...a ton of effing reaches by alot of teams.

2 surprises from the Skins:
1. No QB taken (which I thought was brillant)
2. No prominent NT or ILB picks. Ive mention NT perspective in a couple threads, but think for a second about ILB[B]...Rocky is NOT coming back and London is still effective, but is getting up there. Is this a free agency fill? I tend to think not, much more other needs. So are we going with Riley, Henson or One Man Gang next to London?[/B] I think(hope) so, but Id woulda thought a middle round pick woulda been spent there to add another piece for competition.

I think the grade is a B, kudos to the FO[/quote]

I think they're high on Riley and Blades has been waiting around for a while. I'd prefer those two and let Fletch move on.

SmootSmack 05-02-2011 08:08 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;800444]Physically he would fit fine. From a mental and emotional standpoint, there lies the huge problems.[/quote]

Word

MTK 05-02-2011 08:29 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.

Chico23231 05-02-2011 09:03 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;800450]I think they're high on Riley and Blades has been waiting around for a while. I'd prefer those two and let Fletch move on.[/quote]

Blades is horrible. Riley and Henson probably are the front runners...Greg Jones ILB from Mich St woulda been a nice pick to add to the mix

KI Skins Fan 05-02-2011 09:37 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;800457]I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.[/quote]

I agree with what you said about the common personal traits of our draftees. I would also add to that that I noticed a common thread of good production and improvement over at least two years on their college teams. That constitutes a certain amount of proof that they will work hard, in my opinion.

I also noticed that the defensive players who were drafted have shown the ability to be disruptive. There were a lot of TFL's and forced fumbles caused by this group. I think that is an indication of the type of defense the Redskins want to build.

I think that this was a well thought out and researched draft by the Redskins in terms of the personal traits and football skills that they wanted to add to their roster. As an aside, I can't believe that I actually typed the previous sentence after all these miserable years.

Son Of Man 05-02-2011 10:01 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;800457]I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.[/quote]

I could not agree more.

CrazyCanuck 05-02-2011 11:43 AM

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All in all I loved the draft philosophy this year. Never thought I could enjoy trading down so much. The draft strategy gets an A in my books.

However I hate drafting skill positions when we have holes in the trenches and all over the team. I can live with Hankerson in the 3rd... fine. But I don't love that 5 of our next 6 picks after round 2 were WRs or RBs.

Who exactly is gonna throw to these receivers? Rexy from his back? And who will open holes for our RBs? I can look past the RBs since Shanny has had success in this area in the past and I don't mind getting him the guys he needs to work his system. But so many WRs?

And of course the elephant in the room is still our QB situation. I now suspect we will target a QB in free agency. I find it hard to believe we'll go thru all of 2011 with just Beck and Rexy. And if we're waiting to draft our QB next year that's fine, but the whole world will know it. There will be no hiding our intentions whatsoever.

Anyways all being said I give them a [B]B[/B] on the 2011 draft.

CRedskinsRule 05-02-2011 11:45 AM

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Without searching the thread, I may have given it a B early on, but I changed my mind and gave it an A, based on potential alone. It may end up being less than that, but if you had told me on Wednesday, that we add 3 strong possible starters, and several class characters/hard workers I think I would have been very happy.

Son Of Man 05-02-2011 11:46 AM

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I give the overall draft strategy a solid B. I would have given it an A if it had netted us Jake Locker...but oh well.

celts32 05-02-2011 11:50 AM

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I give this draft a B...I like the trade downs for extra picks to hopefully improve the overall depth of the roster.

However, this grade becomes an F if Gabbert develops into a franchise QB. You can not pass on a franchise QB when you don't have one. They obviously feel Gabbert is not one...and I hope to god they were right.

Longtimefan 05-02-2011 11:50 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;800457]I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.[/quote]

Sweet!! No words could express it any better than that.

Son Of Man 05-02-2011 11:52 AM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=celts32;800554]I give this draft a B...I like the trade downs for extra picks to hopefully improve the overall depth of the roster.

However, this grade becomes an F if Gabbert develops into a franchise QB. You can not pass on a franchise QB when you don't have one. They obviously feel Gabbert is not one...and I hope to god they were right.[/quote]

Passing for 16 touchdowns in a pass happy spread offense....I'll pass.

SirClintonPortis 05-02-2011 11:54 AM

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Actually, come to think of it...we're ok at center. Monty was adequate and Lich can play there too. Looks like Shanahan may be hunting for guards in FA(and banking on BMW's return). Yeah, we could have picked up another C, but he'll be behind Monty and Lich.

Daseal 05-02-2011 12:11 PM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;800548]All in all I loved the draft philosophy this year. Never thought I could enjoy trading down so much. The draft strategy gets an A in my books.

However I hate drafting skill positions when we have holes in the trenches and all over the team. I can live with Hankerson in the 3rd... fine. But I don't love that 5 of our next 6 picks after round 2 were WRs or RBs.

Who exactly is gonna throw to these receivers? Rexy from his back? And who will open holes for our RBs? I can look past the RBs since Shanny has had success in this area in the past and I don't mind getting him the guys he needs to work his system. But so many WRs?

And of course the elephant in the room is still our QB situation. I now suspect we will target a QB in free agency. I find it hard to believe we'll go thru all of 2011 with just Beck and Rexy. And if we're waiting to draft our QB next year that's fine, but the whole world will know it. There will be no hiding our intentions whatsoever.

Anyways all being said I give them a [B]B[/B] on the 2011 draft.[/quote]

CC,

In fairness, do you really think a mid-round QB is going to start for this team or get significant play time? Most midround QBs take a while to get ramped up, if they ever do. Meanwhile RBs can typically play as rookies. WRs have a learning curve too. I understand filling the trenches, but I like that we spread it out some. I'm glad we focused on offense at least a little.

celts32 05-02-2011 12:14 PM

Re: Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 
[quote=Son Of Man;800558]Passing for 16 touchdowns in a pass happy spread offense....I'll pass.[/quote]

Okay...I agree...I didn't love him either. All I am saying is I hope they were right.

The only thing that bothers me about this draft is that Locker was not there at #10. I am not even saying they needed to do anything different. It's just that after a year and a half of rumors about how much Shanny loved Locker I would have liked to see what they would have done if he were on the board. If he still trades down then i know the rumors were not true...if he drafts him then obviously it was true. I just want to know.


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