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[quote=Hog1;823940]WELL played..........[/quote]

:food-smil

It's getting way to serious up in here. Levity needed, STAT!

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[quote=NC_Skins;823928]The protests and initial riots started over something the government did. I suggest you read up on the facts. The continuing riots and looting is part of the disconnect that Brand (a person that actuallly lived in those areas and grew up there and was involved in similar protests) talks about between the government and its people.

Hate to break the bad news to you, but it's going to happen here.[/quote]

The U.S. Government (and the U.K.) has been doing bad things for decades, mainly through ineptitude. What would you say will be the catalyst for violent action?

I think [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/A national study on child well-being published today finds 14.7 million children - 20 per cent - were poor in 2009. The research by the Annie E. Casey Foundation found child poverty increased in 38 states from 2000 to 2009.One in five in poverty: 14.7million - or 20 per cent - of children in the U.S. live in families with incomes below the federal poverty level"]poverty[/URL] is a fine motivator, and we already have that.

As for Mr. Brand, he has as much credibility or less than I do. He's not lived in the real world for decades. Funny guy, not particularly credible though.

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[quote=RedskinRat;824049]The U.S. Government (and the U.K.) has been doing bad things for decades, mainly through ineptitude. What would you say will be the catalyst for violent action?

I think [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/A national study on child well-being published today finds 14.7 million children - 20 per cent - were poor in 2009. The research by the Annie E. Casey Foundation found child poverty increased in 38 states from 2000 to 2009.One in five in poverty: 14.7million - or 20 per cent - of children in the U.S. live in families with incomes below the federal poverty level"]poverty[/URL] is a fine motivator, and we already have that.

As for Mr. Brand, he has as much credibility or less than I do. He's not lived in the real world for decades. Funny guy, not particularly credible though.[/quote]

We have spent trillions of dollars on poverty and nothing has ever changed and it is only worse. When a mom is on wellfair and she has three kids who are on wellfair and then they have kids who are on wellfair then have kids on wellfair etc.. etc... the problem will only get worse. Not all the poor are lazy and just looking for a hand out but i'd guess 80% are and thats the problem. Back in Clintons day we passed wellfair reform but that bill has been torn apart little by little until its back to what we have today. Take the extension of unemployment. I'd guess 60 to 70% of those people are just milking the system until their benifits run out and they have to work. I've seen it with the people and friends I know.

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wtf is wellfair

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[quote=Mattyk;824062]wtf is wellfair[/quote]

Thats funny because I do that stuff all the time and if I dont proof read I never pick it up.

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just wanted to make sure we weren't talking about something like a wellness fair we have sometimes at work

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Wellf Air

Its a popular airline.

Dont you guys no nuthin?

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[quote=RedskinRat;824049]I think [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/A national study on child well-being published today finds 14.7 million children - 20 per cent - were poor in 2009. The research by the Annie E. Casey Foundation found child poverty increased in 38 states from 2000 to 2009.One in five in poverty: 14.7million - or 20 per cent - of children in the U.S. live in families with incomes below the federal poverty level"]poverty[/URL] is a fine motivator, and we already have that.[/quote]


And then there's [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027082/District-Attorney-finds-evidence-man-beaten-death-police-intentionally-killed.html?ITO=1490"]this......[/URL]

[I]Mr Thomas' death is under criminal investigation by the FBI and the Orange County district attorney's office. Earlier this month Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said he'd seen no evidence to suggest Mr Thomas had been intentionally killed.

[/I]6 cops against one homeless man who was clearly undersized and undernourished?

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[quote=RedskinRat;824084]And then there's [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027082/District-Attorney-finds-evidence-man-beaten-death-police-intentionally-killed.html?ITO=1490"]this......[/URL]

[I]Mr Thomas' death is under criminal investigation by the FBI and the Orange County district attorney's office. Earlier this month Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said he'd seen no evidence to suggest Mr Thomas had been intentionally killed.[/I]

6 cops against one homeless man who was clearly undersized and undernourished?

[IMG]http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkwo1ye1591qzzimuo1_500.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

That's pretty bad looking for those cops. Not sure why cops would need to use any real force after they have the man on the ground.

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All these flash mobs in the US have me concerned but I don’t think we have to worry about whats happening in London happening here anytime soon. I remember when I was in HS they made a ban on more than 2 or 3 young people walking together at Springfield Mall because there were too many fights. Back then I used to think it was hatefully discrimination, now I realize it was just a great idea. Honestly im at the point where I don’t want to go anywhere where I know a bunch of adolescent males are going to be hanging out and if I have to im arming myself. I think its fortunate the US laws on gun control are more liberal than in the UK; people there are unable to defend themselves from being attacked, robbed, raped, or killed when outnumbered.

When we had the Rodney King riots Asian businesses were targeted by the rioters, the police couldn’t really do anything to help them. If not for the Asian community in LA heavily arming themselves many of them may have been killed, beaten or raped and their businesses would have been destroyed, simply because they were Asian. Only the criminals and socially elite in the UK have guns. At the start of the London riots the Muslim population (particularly Pakistani) was targeted because they owned many of the businesses in poorer parts of London. Unfortunately the Muslim’s in the UK don’t have guns to protect themselves.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/police-japanese-returned-78-million-missing-cash-quake-174212622.html]Police say Japanese have returned $78 million in missing cash after quake | The Lookout - Yahoo! News[/url]

Thought we should all be reminded that humans can be decent too -- not often but once in a while

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The Japanese are definately doing some things right that most of the rest of the world cannot quite figure out.......like UK and USA

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Maybe this will turn violent:

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[URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/seius-stephen-lerner-invokes-bill-ayers-days-of-rage-to-take-down-wall-street-this-september/"]US Day of Rage Non-Violent Civil Disobedience Wall Street | Video | TheBlaze.com[/URL]

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Do you plan on attending saden?

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Swanson told Press TV’s U.S. Desk on Monday that “we are going to occupy Freedom Plaza in the middle of Washington D.C., the name of which is very similar of course to Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt, and from there we are going to expand to shut down offices, buildings, streets, hallways, to nonviolently, strictly nonviolently resist what our government is doing.”

The author of “War is a lie” said “we are taking the same sort of agenda that all left, liberal and progressive groups intend to take to Washington: Tax the rich and the corporations, end the wars, cut the military spending, protect our safety net, our social security, give us Medicare for everybody, end the corporate welfare, give us clean energy and jobs and infrastructure and cleanup the system.”


[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/radicals-plan-cairo-style-occupation-of-freedom-plaza-in-washington-dc/]Radicals Plan Egypt-Style Occupation of Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC | David Swanson | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

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[quote=RedskinRat;824049]I think povertyis a fine motivator, and we already have that.

As for Mr. Brand, he has as much credibility or less than I do. He's not lived in the real world for decades. Funny guy, not particularly credible though.[/quote]

We aren't to that level yet in terms of poverty. However, that gap between the rich and poor keep expanding. That time will come.

Why do you say Brand isn't credible? He's VERY credible since he's born in raised in those very areas, and was part of the rioting generation in his earlier years. Why is his voice null and void?

Who the hell are you to decide that he's credible or not? I think anybody from that area has a right (and valid) voice to what they feel is wrong with the area.