Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=Mattyk;967842]The OL is far better than we expected. We have a few young guys for depth who are still developing. The OL chicken littles need to chill.[/quote]

I see you get the point I was making. Others remain ignorant

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=Chico23231;967783]This.

Draft another mid round tackle to compete with Tom Compton and Polumbus to compete for the RT spot. And this O-line is set for awhile. Kory L will be competing for his spot with McRibeus and Gettis next year. O-Line plan has come together extremely well.[/quote]

I checked Mike Shanahan's draft record. The highest offensive lineman he's taken in the draft was Trent Williams. When Shanahan was in Denver, most of his offensive linemen were 3rd-7th round selections. If the Redskins find value at RT, I'd like the RT to be taken in the earlier rounds of the draft much like with Jon Jansen. RT has been a concern since Jansen was released in 2008.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

ooops wrong thread

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;967852][url=http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/cowboys-sign-lb-poppinga-wr-armstrong-release-wr-andre-holmes.html/]Cowboys sign LB Poppinga, WR Armstrong; release WR Andre Holmes | Dallas Cowboys Blog[/url][/quote]

Doesn't fit in this thread really, but thanks

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967826]How exactly are we planning to add depth to the offensive line?[/quote]

Is there not going to be a draft or free agency next year?

[quote=Mattyk;967842]The OL is far better than we expected. We have a few young guys for depth who are still developing. The OL chicken littles need to chill.[/quote]

Taken 2 was far better than i expected... but it still wasnt very good.

Our OL has done a decent job, but not heroic. RGIII is hit or knocked down on almost every single drop back. He is our franchise quarterback, andits not like hes a stocky guy like newton or rothlisberger. He's young now, but eventually, his body wont be able to recover as quickly and those hits will start taking a toll.

we've invested a fortune (in draft picks) in RGIII. we need to protect that investment by doing everything we can to upgrade the line so that he doesnt get knocked down so much when he's in the pocket. When your ranking team needs in the offseason, i cant imagine how improving the Oline is not 2nd... preferably guys like polumbus and Chester can become our backups/depth and we have better starters in front of them.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;967866]Is there not going to be a draft or free agency next year?[/quote]

Yeah, but we are still screwed with Cap Adjustments, and to fix the other major issues as well we may simply run out of money... It'll be nice to have non-league adjusted funds in 2014.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;967866]Is there not going to be a draft or free agency next year?[/quote]

I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967871]I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.[/quote]yeah, all those guys are over the hill anyways. just like our backfield...

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967871]I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.[/quote]

Yeah, I didn't even mention we have rookies currently growing in the system. Thank's Smoot for picking up my slack. :food-smil

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967871]I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.[/quote]

I'd hope a 2nd round lineman could beat out some of those late round scrubs. Teams get better through competition. By your logic, we shouldnt bother drafting/signing free agent players at any positions, since we already have young depth on the roster.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967871]I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.[/quote]

Smoot, I would like to see Gettis, LeRibeus, and Compton get some reps at some points before the season is over. They all have been riding the pine all season long. Our starting offensive line has been doing a fine job, but if by chance the Redskins build a lead and it's late in the game, the coaches should put them in so they can attain game experience.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=SmootSmack;967871]I think it's funny when people say we need to draft for depth and then seemingly forget about the young depth we currently have. But I suppose we'll just cast Gettis, LeRibeus, Compton, even Hurt aside and expect instant depth from the rookies next year.[/quote]

If those guys are quality depth why is Polumbus starting then? But I see your point SS we've already spent resources on the oline, but I guess more for the interior.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;967866]Is there not going to be a draft or free agency next year?



Taken 2 was far better than i expected... but it still wasnt very good.

Our OL has done a decent job, but not heroic. RGIII is hit or knocked down on almost every single drop back. He is our franchise quarterback, andits not like hes a stocky guy like newton or rothlisberger. He's young now, but eventually, his body wont be able to recover as quickly and those hits will start taking a toll.

we've invested a fortune (in draft picks) in RGIII. we need to protect that investment by doing everything we can to upgrade the line so that he doesnt get knocked down so much when he's in the pocket. When your ranking team needs in the offseason, i cant imagine how improving the Oline is not 2nd... preferably guys like polumbus and Chester can become our backups/depth and we have better starters in front of them.[/quote]

It's still TBD whether a smaller oline (perfect for the ZBS) can also pass protect effectively against the myriad dominant dlines we face every season. Many of us had concerns about the ZBS here. It's been great for the ground attack, but long term if it can't protect your franchise QB from getting trucked multiple times a game is it worth it? Keeping in mind there are still better rushing teams out there that don't suffer pass protection because they don't rely on a smaller, ZBS oline.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=The Goat;967877]If those guys are quality depth why is Polumbus starting then? But I see your point SS we've already spent resources on the oline, but I guess more for the interior.[/quote]

I dont know why everyone is opposed to using FA and the draft to improve our o-line. Lets look at some of our other position groups -

We are STOCKED with talent at the rest of the offensive positions. We are SET with our starters and backups at QB, WR, RB, and TE (assuming we resign davis). obviously, shanahan will draft a RB in the late rounds, but we are more or less set with the rest of those positions.

Looking at our defense, our LB corps is excellent and our DL is pretty darn good too.

Other than secondary and OL, i dont see any major, glaring, weaknesses on our team. Obviously our secondary has to be our #1 concern, but we dont have a third startable tackle on our team. If Williams or Polumbus went down, we'd be screwed. Polumbus has played well better than i could have hoped for this year, but ideally, he's your backup swing tackle.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;967866]Is there not going to be a draft or free agency next year?



Taken 2 was far better than i expected... but it still wasnt very good.

Our OL has done a decent job, but not heroic. [B]RGIII is hit or knocked down on almost every single drop back.[/B] He is our franchise quarterback, andits not like hes a stocky guy like newton or rothlisberger. He's young now, but eventually, his body wont be able to recover as quickly and those hits will start taking a toll.

we've invested a fortune (in draft picks) in RGIII. we need to protect that investment by doing everything we can to upgrade the line so that he doesnt get knocked down so much when he's in the pocket. When your ranking team needs in the offseason, i cant imagine how improving the Oline is not 2nd... preferably guys like polumbus and Chester can become our backups/depth and we have better starters in front of them.[/quote]

A bit of a stretch.

RT is the only spot in need of an upgrade.

Given how they've performed and with some young guys waiting in the wings, I'd rather focus on upgrading the secondary.