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[quote=jamf;1050993]Did you know:
Orakpo has ZERO career sacks against Dallas.
Orakpo has 4.5 total career sacks against all NFC east teams combined.

Josh Wilson has as many career sacks against Dallas as Orakpo.
Josh Wilson has as many career sacks against the Giants as Orakpo (1)

We should be able to pay someone a lot less and get that production.

$40-50Mil would be the max I would give him.[/quote]

Wow....that is not good.

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[quote=los panda;1050996]oh God, i forgot about kruger's robbery.

good point, matty.

whatever it is, we need to give it to him. he'll never be a demarcus ware-type talent, but he's the best we have, and we need to keep him.[/quote]

That's the nature of free agency though. We see a signing every year that really makes no sense, but because of teams wanting to win so badly they overpay. Watch...we'll overpay for someone come March.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051069]Clay is overhyped he's just an avg player[/quote]

Wouldn't call him average but he isn't as good as the NFL media folk makes him out to be in my opinion. A lot of other teams have better edge rushers.

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Clay> Rak

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Every top defense in the league has their stong point:

49ers: Linebackers
Panthers: Front Seven
Chiefs: Linebackers and Dontari Poe
Cardinals: That massive defensive line that keeps their LBs clean all game.
Seahawks: Legion of Boom. (I feel the loss of Browner will hurt them in the playoffs.)

We have a strength with our edge rushers in Rak and Kerrigan. We need a MLB to replace Fletch and a defensive lineman that constantly pushes the LOS back. With that it will help the secondary develop a la Carolina. There are some good up and coming prospects in the draft that I hope we take a look at. Point is we re-sign Rak and that re-build becomes a lot easier.

Redskins with Rak > Redskins without Rak.

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Sign him. Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3.. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down

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[quote=Meks;1051117]Sign him. [B]Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3[/B].. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down[/quote]This I can agree with. The 3-4 was never going to reach it's full potential without a Haloti Ngata/Vince Wilfork type at nose tackle. Cofield is a good player, but not a dominant guy who eats multiple blocks and allows his ILB's to make plays running downhill. Bottom line, I don't want to see Rak lost in space chasing a TE or a RB when he should be wreaking havoc in the backfield every down.

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[quote=Meks;1051117]Sign him. Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3.. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down[/quote]

They should be outta the Orakpo business. I agree go back to the 4-3 (maybe a hybrid) and sign a younger, cheaper, and possibly better player or two.

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I think with the injury, we could possibly get him for 8 mil per year, more realistically 9 or 9.5, but 4 years 36-39 mil for Orakpo is a good deal. Unless he is wanting 10 mil per or more, sign him and keep your bookends intact, so that when we DO get a competent secondary, Our defense will finally look MUCH improved. I don't think he will command over 10 mil per year.

Yes he is the best we have. But there is no way he is top 5 at his position right now, just no way. He MIGHT scratch the top 10, but 10 mil per year is too much.

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Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.

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Hope y'all had a very merry Christmas.

Assuming we have new HC and DC, it'll be interesting what their "outside" perspective is on orakpo and his value. I think a 4-3 coach will see a ton of value in Rak and want to coach him into elite echelons.

Regardless, I think we should up the best offer he gets by a bonus. He's earned it.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051299]Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.[/quote]

And who do suggest we replace him with? Did u see what happened after got hurt against the cowboys? No pass rush and DeMarco Murray scores. He is the Redskins best pass rusher.

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I want him back but it has to be reasonable numbers. When is the last time he came through with a pass rush in a big situation with a game on the line? It's hard to remember. He never developed the way I hoped he would. How much of that is playing him out of position...don't know.

Not sure if we can carry the number but I would almost rather franchise him and let him play 1 year in a 43 defense to establish his actual worth.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051299]Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.[/quote]

Big Hair wants a team full of back ups who over achieve on the field and get paid back up money. He wants a lot of draft picks. Like St. Louis have although these extra draft picks have not gotten them to the playoffs. He wants all NFL players to be paid less. He is an ideologue that wants the NFL returned to purity.

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Like Vinny in reverse ^