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mooby 01-24-2018 01:02 AM

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[quote=WillH;1186487]Can we start a come back SmootSmack petition thread?

Nah, we all have lives, and that takes precedence, but damn I wish I had his takes still.

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We all miss the dank nugs of knowledge SS used to drop, but I like to think SS doesn't visit because he has bigger priorities in life now. Hope you're doing ok SS, wherever you are.

Alvin Walton 01-24-2018 07:11 AM

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Draft this guy.
Then Reed can IR himself to death for all I care.

[url]https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/23/16924794/senior-bowl-news-2018-tight-end-dallas-goedert-meetings-49ers-draft-prospect[/url]

skinsfaninok 01-24-2018 02:39 PM

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[IMG]http://https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DULfjdQVAAETYAA.jpg[/IMG]

Z Brown... Pay that man

Defensive players who registered 30+ "run stuffs" (tackles for 2 or fewer yards) this year per #NextGenStats


Brown was 13th on the list. Better than the amazing Sean Lee

MTK 01-24-2018 02:43 PM

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Pay ZB at the right price, he’s got some serious limitations in coverage which should limit his price. He’s not going to get top LB money.

WillH 01-24-2018 03:52 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1186574]Pay ZB at the right price, he’s got some serious limitations in coverage which should limit his price. He’s not going to get top LB money.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with this. What do you think the right price is?

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Chico23231 01-24-2018 03:58 PM

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We need a volume tackler in the middle of this defense...Zach Brown does this extremely well. He played injured down the stretch..showed his toughness.

Schneed10 01-24-2018 04:01 PM

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Really? Zach a coverage problem? I didn't see it, myself. His speed lets him run with a lot of TEs.

MTK 01-24-2018 04:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1186581]Really? Zach a coverage problem? I didn't see it, myself. His speed lets him run with a lot of TEs.[/QUOTE]


He’s flat out lost in zone coverage at times. Cooley broke this down all year.

WillH 01-24-2018 04:24 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1186581]Really? Zach a coverage problem? I didn't see it, myself. His speed lets him run with a lot of TEs.[/QUOTE]What Matty said, but also, TEs killed us all year. In theory, with his size and speed, he should be able to, but he must not see it or have the technique or something. Can you give an example of a TE he covered well?

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skinsfaninok 01-24-2018 04:29 PM

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000908391/Top-30-Team-Jerseys]Top 30 Team Jerseys | NFL.com[/url]

Damn nobody bought skins gear huh?

Schneed10 01-24-2018 04:47 PM

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[quote=MTK;1186582]He’s flat out lost in zone coverage at times. Cooley broke this down all year.[/quote]

OK I'll check out the breakdowns. I could have just missed it.

doughtydoubter 01-24-2018 04:50 PM

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[quote=WillH;1186577]I tend to agree with this. What do you think the right price is?

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4 years at 5.75 a year with 12 mill guaranteed?

He is not good in coverage and i agree he is not going to get the 7 mil a year he wants.

MTK 01-24-2018 05:26 PM

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[QUOTE=WillH;1186577]I tend to agree with this. What do you think the right price is?

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Somewhere around $5M per year I’d guess

MTK 01-24-2018 05:28 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1186588]OK I'll check out the breakdowns. I could have just missed it.[/QUOTE]


I think it was the 2nd Giants game where Cooley was almost laughing over how lost he was in space, it was an issue all year

FrenchSkin 01-24-2018 06:04 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1186582]He’s flat out lost in zone coverage at times. Cooley broke this down all year.[/QUOTE]Yeah he's had more than his share of flat out blown coverage. Even in man coverage.

I agree with Schneed: his speed SHOULD allow him to be a decent cover LB though.

The way I see it, part of it is not studying the play book enough (ie a TD he allowed against the Eagles where it's man, he's responsible for the back, he starts rushing the QB and then, as the back goes by him you can basically hear him go "Oh fuck fuck fuck that was my guy" as he turns back) and the other part is keying the eyes of the QB too much, to a point where he'd end up in someone else's zone because the QB was looking that way, and not see the wide open receiver in his zone (I remember this very clearly from the Chiefs game but that was often the case).

If I could see it on my computer with the gamepass, I guarantee staffs and QBs from other teams did too and knew how easy it was to look Zach Brown off a receiver in zone coverage.

I'm thinking this had to be one of the reasons the Bills let him walk last year.

But he has the skills to overcome this, and still was one of our best players on D.

I definitely want him back!

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