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BigHairedAristocrat 03-05-2019 09:17 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
JP and Sheehan repeatedly been saying when we're thinking of compensation to send out to AZ for Rosen or Pittsburg for Brown, don't necessarily assume it will be draft picks. Both have been saying that guys like Norman, Kerrigan, and even Trent Williams may be traded, either as part of these deals or on draft day for picks. With Sheehan, it comes off more as speculation. JP seems to know something.

GridIron26 03-05-2019 09:22 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219413]JP and Sheehan repeatedly been saying when we're thinking of compensation to send out to AZ for Rosen or Pittsburg for Brown, don't necessarily assume it will be draft picks. Both have been saying that guys like Norman, [B]Kerrigan, and even Trent Williams[/B] may be traded, either as part of these deals or on draft day for picks. With Sheehan, it comes off more as speculation. JP seems to know something.[/quote]

Redskins FO would be really stupid to trade Kerrigan or Williams

Chico23231 03-05-2019 09:26 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=GridIron26;1219414]Redskins FO would be really stupid to trade Kerrigan or Williams[/quote]

Agree...very dumb. Why? The holes of best team pass rusher and top 3 LT in the league are too big to close.

Norman and Reed trade makes more sense...

MTK 03-05-2019 09:38 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
Sheehan is in favor of going nuclear, cutting Smith, trading away our best assets like Williams and Kerrigan. It's not happening.

Defensewins 03-05-2019 09:41 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
Please, no more than a 3rd round pick for Rosen. The fact that the team that drafted him #10 overall is already giving up on him is not a good sign.
This situation reminds me of Alex Smith when his two last teams looked to upgrade/replace him. That should be a sign to our FO he is not a stud.
They are now entertaining offers for Rosen for potentially a 2nd or 3rd round pick? Wow.
The market is not good for AZ and Rosen.

skinsfan69 03-05-2019 09:46 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
Have to keep Trent. The rest imo are all on the table. Especially Norman.

Buffalo Bob 03-05-2019 09:54 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=GridIron26;1219414]Redskins FO would be really stupid to trade Kerrigan or Williams[/quote]

Not even the Redskins front office is that stupid.

DYoungJelly 03-05-2019 10:07 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1219419]Have to keep Trent. The rest imo are all on the table. Especially Norman.[/QUOTE]Agree. Kerrigan is the best of the good (not great) with his best years behind him.

Trading him while value exists is a Patriots like move.

Keep Trent.

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skinsfaninok 03-05-2019 10:13 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
The only way we trade RK is if we sign Justin Houston and draft Polite or another edge guy

Buffalo Bob 03-05-2019 10:34 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1219422]Agree. Kerrigan is the best of the good (not great) with his best years behind him.

Trading him while value exists is a Patriots like move.

Keep Trent.

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I don't understand the lack of love for Kerrigan. The guy averages double digit sacks, a couple forced fumbles a year, is a perennial pro bowler and is treated like he is nothing special from many in here. He also never misses a game.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-05-2019 10:39 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=GridIron26;1219414]Redskins FO would be really stupid to trade Kerrigan or Williams[/quote]

It depends on the compensation. Both players are 30 and at their peak value. Their contracts are commiserate with their performance right now... but they'll be more expensive than they're worth in a couple years. And lets be honest - we're a couple years away from being competitive. I'd trade either of them for a 1st and not think twice about it.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-05-2019 10:45 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1219424]I don't understand the lack of love for Kerrigan. The guy averages double digit sacks, a couple forced fumbles a year, is a perennial pro bowler and is treated like he is nothing special from many in here. He also never misses a game.[/quote]

its not a lack of love. its BECAUSE he's so good that he has actual trade value. Kerrigan and Williams will both be 31 when the season starts. their value will never be higher than it is now. Smart teams like the patriots trade players like Williams and Kerrigan every day. Getting younger and cheaper by trading talented veterans who will be declining by the team the redskins are competitive is how we get better for the long term.

Schneed10 03-05-2019 11:03 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
Mark Bullock recently posted some excellent analysis of Rosen on his Twitter. Encourage everyone to go look at it. High points:

- he was sacked 45 times in 13 games. Like to put that in perspective our injured ass offensive line gave up 45 sacks all season long.

- if you go back and look at most of those sacks, they're mostly a product of two things:

1) the defensive line would win IMMEDIATELY. Rosen was getting hit by the time he was planting his leg at the top of his drop. Never had a chance.

2) The Cardinals offense was really, really poorly designed. For example leave Danielle Hunter of the Vikings unblocked with no hot route. Or go empty set with no check down options available - nothing but 10-14 yard curls. They gave Rosen no chance to succeed.

Now when he does get hit he needs to hold onto the ball. We had that problem with Cousins and it needs to be dealt with - but putting much of anything on Rosen for last year's performance is definitely unfair. The coaching there was an abomination, the scheme about as well thought out as a high school offense, and the line was incapable of winning one on one physical matchups with most opponents.

skinsfaninok 03-05-2019 11:03 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219426]its not a lack of love. its BECAUSE he's so good that he has actual trade value. Kerrigan and Williams will both be 31 when the season starts. their value will never be higher than it is now. Smart teams like the patriots trade players like Williams and Kerrigan every day. Getting younger and cheaper by trading talented veterans who will be declining by the team the redskins are competitive is how we get better for the long term.[/quote]

LT and EDGE are 2 of the most important positions so yes you could get a 2nd for RK I believe.

SFREDSKIN 03-05-2019 11:13 AM

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 
Zach Brown makes the most sense to trade, he is under contract and doesn’t want to play for the Redskins. Throw in Doctson too, since most here hate him.


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