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The way Mike used Shannon could be employed with FD. He played all over the field, lining up a WR and TE.

With our versitility in that area you could see both cooley and davis rotated all over the field.

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I think 8-8 as a distinct possibility but this is a team that could just as easily be 10-6 as 6-10 and anything in between. A lot depends on how quickly Trent Williams assimilates into the NFL and Jammal Brown reclaims his form from 2 years ago. Let's not forget that we are in a divison that features arguably 2 of the top 5 defensive lines in the league.

Then McNabb will have to learn a new system, the WRs have shown nothing...absolutely nothing, questionable safety+corner situation, and a stable of old, creaky backs.

But...we have young studs in Fred Davis and Brian Orakpo. If fat Albert plays then we have a very strong defensive front with AH, Carter, Orakpo, Fletcher etc. DMac has been pretty successful with less than stellar WR play in the past. Perhaps most importantly -- we have proven coaches (MS, KS, JH) who will bring innovation and discipline to the locker room and a competent GM, both of whom have installed discipline in the locker room as well as a solid roster going forward.

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RUN , RUN , and RUN some more . If we can run , the OL will be better , less predictable on offense . Either DT or MK will make some plays , maybe even some big plays now that we have a coach and QB that are not afraid to throw downfield . If we run , we can compete , we can't run ... we are in for a long season , IMO .

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[quote=budw38;708785]RUN , RUN , and RUN some more . If we can run , the OL will be better , less predictable on offense . Either DT or MK will make some plays , maybe even some big plays now that we have a coach and QB that are not afraid to throw downfield . If we run , we can compete , we can't run ... we are in for a long season , IMO .[/quote]

If the OL isn't better, how are we supposed to run? and how exactly is an improved running game going to improve the play and predictability of the OL?

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Offensive lines love running the football. It is a building block for a cohesive unit. these big guys love running the football and if we have some success early it will help build the guys confidence as a unit thus improving our play.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;708786]If the OL isn't better, how are we supposed to run? and how exactly is an improved running game going to improve the play and predictability of the OL?[/quote]
Ok , if the OL is not better , than throwing would get McNabb killed and we would have our defense on the field far too long . I do think with the additions of T. Williams , J. Brown at Tackle , Hicks ( T-G ) BIG M. Williams having a year under his belt , and Rinehart healthy , we should be < I hope > , better . We also have 2 more RB's who with CP, , should be able to make a solid grind it out running game ..... if we can't run the ball ... like I said , we are done . As far as predictability , if we are pounding the other team , we have set up play action , maybe even forcing the D to put 8 in the box .

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[quote=JoeRedskin;707984]Why would we want to move our developmental tackle to a position we are already stacked in?

Rather - Hopefully, this gives time for Capers to develop into a solid replacement for J. Brown at RT.[/quote]

it was a joke :doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;708658]Yeah a lot has to come together, but is .500 really sipping the kool-aid? (By the way that phrase has to go, it's definitely played out)

All in all I just don't think that 8-8 is all that crazy. 10-6 if things really come together quickly.[/quote]

I have to agree with skinsnut that I am tired of predicting a good season and then I end up bashing my head into a wall about week 6. I've done it for years now so I have a new approach, modest expectations.
I do think if we go 8-8 that is a very positive year for us. Hell it's double the win column from last year. Not to mention the schedule this year is brutal, polar opposite of last year's when we could only manage 4 wins against the little sisters of the poor. 10-6 is overzealous. 8-8 this season and I will be very pleased with all the new changes melding together, etc. Let's face it this is going to take time and there will be growing pains.

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Completely agree with killromo ^^. Zorn was nowhere near ready to lead the Redskins and the 4 wins were a gift considering how easy the schedule was.
With the much more difficult schedule, much improved offensive line, and yet another offensive system, 10-6 would be phenomenal. 6-10 to 8-8 is the much more practical goal with 8-8 being a very good season.

Make no mistake...we are rebuilding.

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[quote=Mattyk;708658]Yeah a lot has to come together, but is .500 really sipping the kool-aid? (By the way that phrase has to go, it's definitely played out).

I'm honestly not as concerned about the defensive side of the ball as some seem to be. There is talent there and a scheme change is not going to be all that difficult.

As for the WRs McNabb worked with a lot less for most of his career in Philly. And we'll undoubtedly see Cooley and Davis worked into the mix as both are talented enough to split out. And who knows, TO is still out there.

All in all I just don't think that 8-8 is all that crazy. 10-6 if things really come together quickly.[/quote]

8-8 would be a very impressive season in my eyes, in part because the defense does worry me quite a bit. The d-line (I assume AH is not in the mix by the start of the season) is arguably the worst we've had in a long time, and easily the worst in the division. Kemo = ?, Carriker = ?, the other guys are either underwhelming vets like Holiday or no-name rookies and 2nd yr players.

I guess my expectation is we see a lot of high scoring games, and if we're lucky we'll win about half. That said, it should be exciting football again (finally) because of the offense. I'm just preparing to be frustrated w/ the defense.

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I'd say without first seeing the squad actually play that is team has a 85% chance of being anywhere between 6-10 and 8-8. Anything beyond that is unlikely. So, yeah, we could make the playoffs....if the NFC totally sucks and an 8-8 team makes it in.

However, making predictions without seeing preseason live action is a bit crazy. This is all speculation. The only way I can see us doing better than 8-8, is if McNabb does great and we add a legit WR or if DT starts hitting on all cylinders in preseason....all that combined with no reduction in productivity in Defense...I too have concerns about a 3-4 dline, LB arrangement as half the starting LB's will essentially be rookies in the position and the Dline is a bit questionable unless Haynesworth remains.

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[quote=skinsnut;709279]I'd say without first seeing the squad actually play that is team has a 85% chance of being anywhere between 6-10 and 8-8. Anything beyond that is unlikely. So, yeah, we could make the playoffs....if the NFC totally sucks and an 8-8 team makes it in.

However, making predictions without seeing preseason live action is a bit crazy. This is all speculation. The only way I can see us doing better than 8-8, is if McNabb does great and we add a legit WR or if DT starts hitting on all cylinders in preseason....all that combined with no reduction in productivity in Defense...I too have concerns about a 3-4 dline, LB arrangement as half the starting LB's will essentially be rookies in the position and the Dline is a bit questionable unless Haynesworth remains.[/quote]

I agree with skinsnut. Making predictions now is like a person who can see trying to read braille. You can see what's in front of you but you still can't make out what the heck it is. It's a glass half full/half empty situation. You can argue we don't have this or that. And we don't. We have upgraded this and that. And we have. rbanerjee23 was right when he said whatever way you look at it, we are definitely rebuilding. Only thing I am glad about is that even if we don't have a great season, atleast Danny boy is out of the way, for now, and the FO seems to know what the heck it's doing for once.

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Anyone hear Jammal Browns interview on 106.7 the other day, with LaVar and Dukes? It was pretty interesting, and it sounds great that he compares himself to a Hog.

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yes. excited about this!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;709310]Anyone hear Jammal Browns interview on 106.7 the other day, with LaVar and Dukes? It was pretty interesting, and it sounds great that he compares himself to a Hog.[/quote]

That wasn't even my favorite quote. His best one was when he said "playoffs ain't nothin'." If you excuse the incorrect english he has a great point saying that he wants to play for superbowls, not playoff games.

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I am really happy right now (emphasis on the right now) with the Brown trade. He is saying all the right things, doing all the right things...let's hope he producse on the field.

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In a side note; I re-watched the BCS National Championship game between Florida and Oklahoma, with Trent Williams as a Junior RT. I watched every single snap that he played, and I got to say that he was a dominate mauler the whole game. I'd say maybe 3-5 snaps he got sort of lazy on his blocking. And he only missed 3 snaps the whole game due to exhaustion from OU hurry up offense.

He'll be a great player for us at tackle for sure.

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Can anyone give me an update on how Jamaal has played this year. The general consensus has been that he stunk at the beginning of the year but as the year has gone on I've heard that he's played better and better.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jammal-brown/healthy-jammal-brown-im-becomi.html#more]Redskins Insider - Healthy Jammal Brown: 'I'm becoming my old self'[/url]

Seems like he's getting better and we can expect to see more from him next season.

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[quote=GridIron26;772078][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jammal-brown/healthy-jammal-brown-im-becomi.html#more]Redskins Insider - Healthy Jammal Brown: 'I'm becoming my old self'[/url]

Seems like he's getting better and we can expect to see more from him next season.[/quote]

No idea how I missed that, but it's still a pretty detailed response. Either way it's look like we have our bookends and with as much as 50 million in cap space we can afford to sign Brown to a long term contract.

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Looking at the season as a whole, Jamaal Brown cannot get a grade above "C-minus". He has improved a bit since about Thanksgiving but this guy used to play at the Pro Bowl level and he is now playing at the level of a guy who hopes to become a journeyman.

If he continues to recover from his injuries and his health allows him to raise his level of play significantly next year, he will have been worth a mid round draft pick.

If this is as good as it gets, the trade was a bad one.

Wait until next August/September to make a judgment here. Signing him to a long term deal to give you "bookends" on the OL, is premature.