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KI Skins Fan 03-17-2015 09:07 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
One thing I really like about the Culliver and Johnson signings is that both players have reputations as good tacklers. The poor tackling of our secondary players has been driving me crazy for years and I'm certain that I'm not alone. Is relief finally on the way? Let's hope so.

Lotus 03-17-2015 09:51 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1109647]One thing I really like about the Culliver and Johnson signings is that both players have reputations as good tacklers. The poor tackling of our secondary players has been driving me crazy for years and I'm certain that I'm not alone. Is relief finally on the way? Let's hope so.[/quote]

I agree about the tackling. I also hope that the newcomers can actually keep to their assignments so we can avoid the many blown coverages that plagued us last year.

DynamiteRave 03-17-2015 12:37 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Cult of Colt is back on again.

McCoy re-signed.

Alvin Walton 03-17-2015 12:46 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;1109685]Cult of Colt is back on again.

McCoy re-signed.[/quote]

Longhorn Jesus is back!

Lotus 03-17-2015 01:26 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1109687][B]Longhorn Jesus[/B] is back![/quote]

I like it. Well done.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-17-2015 01:49 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Reports on both Culliver and Johnson from former teammates and coaches is that they are disciplined in their assignments. They should both boost our defense along these lines.

skinsguy 03-17-2015 04:15 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
I remember when the sentiment was that fans would rather have a strong offense that can score a lot of points, rather than a defense that can keep the other team out of the end zone. Well, we've had that for the past few years now, and it hasn't worked. I think we're seeing that what always makes a team strong is solid offensive and defensive lines, and an overall solid defense. Hopefully Scot finds some offensive linemen in the draft, but I'm really liking what I'm seeing in this offseason.

mlmdub130 03-17-2015 10:34 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Can't wait to see what Johnson is made of. Sounds like a very solid addition to special teams, and quite possibly the safety help we have needed for a long time. Love how competitive he sounds.

“That’s my plan—to come in and compete for the starting job,” Johnson told Larry Michael on Redskins Nation. “I don’t want anything handed to me. [I’m going] to come in and compete. I’m just going to be me. I can’t promise you anything but me, Jeron Johnson. I’m a competitor. I want to compete and I want to win.”


[url]http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/new-redskins-jeron-johnson-plans-start-i-plan-delivering-blow-seattle-seahawks[/url]

And if you haven't YouTubed his name yet here you go...still stings like a bitch

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WknnBsjAOk[/url]

REDSKINS4ever 03-18-2015 05:13 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1109647]One thing I really like about the Culliver and Johnson signings is that both players have reputations as good tacklers. The poor tackling of our secondary players has been driving me crazy for years and I'm certain that I'm not alone. Is relief finally on the way? Let's hope so.[/quote]

Under Gregg Williams and Greg Blache the Redskins had excellent tackling from the secondary....under Haslett's watch the tackling was piss poor in the secondary....it seems to be a personnel issue...the players in the secondary just weren't very good...

hutch17 03-19-2015 12:09 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=mlmdub130;1109760]Can't wait to see what Johnson is made of. Sounds like a very solid addition to special teams, and quite possibly the safety help we have needed for a long time. Love how competitive he sounds.

“That’s my plan—to come in and compete for the starting job,” Johnson told Larry Michael on Redskins Nation. “I don’t want anything handed to me. [I’m going] to come in and compete. I’m just going to be me. I can’t promise you anything but me, Jeron Johnson. I’m a competitor. I want to compete and I want to win.”


[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/new-redskins-jeron-johnson-plans-start-i-plan-delivering-blow-seattle-seahawks]New Redskins S hopes to start: 'I plan on delivering the blow' | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

And if you haven't YouTubed his name yet here you go...still stings like a bitch

[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WknnBsjAOk[/url][/quote]

I just noticed how badly Evan Royster missed his block on Johnson as he was flying through the hole. that was really on him.

CRedskinsRule 03-19-2015 06:15 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1109342]'' much more " than the NFL minimum = about $1 million in the first year, with a small signing bonus... does he have any contract offers ?

if you think he has proven he deserves a middle level contract you are delusional. The guy has one play on his highlight video- the guy is a sleeper, who appears to be getting minimal interested- there is no reason to pay him $3 or $4 million a year.

Rahim Moore got $ 4 million a year- Patrick Chung got $2.7 million

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2015S.php]WalterFootball.com: 2015 NFL Free Agents - Safeties[/url][/quote]

Given all that was said back and forth, here is the breakdown of JJ's contract:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16128/redskins-contract-breakdown-jeron-johnson]Washington Redskins contract breakdown: Jeron Johnson - ESPN[/url]

Here’s a breakdown of his deal:

[quote]2015

Base salary: $800,000, not guaranteed.

Cap hit:$1.225 million.

Note: If the Redskins really don’t like what they have in Johnson, it won’t be hard to get out of the deal. They could cut him in camp and only be out the $350,000 bonus. Also, he will receive $15,625 every game he’s on the 46-man roster up to $250,000. He also has $900,000 in not-likely-to-be-earned incentives.

2016

Base salary: $850,000, not guaranteed.

Cap hit: $1.275 million.

Note: If he’s released next offseason the Redskins would save $1.1 million on the salary cap with $175,000 in dead money. As in 2015, he will receive $15,625 for every game he’s on the 46-man roster, with a maximum value of $250,000. And he still has up to $900,000 in not-likely-to-be-earned incentives.
[/quote]
Seems like we got the one we wanted and pretty close to the cap price you wanted.

warriorzpath 03-19-2015 06:48 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1109369]Ok, I'm really nervous about this Culliver signing now after reading this because of the cap money he got and all this other legal crap.
FFS!

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/14/culliver-gets-16-million-fully-guaranteed-at-signing/]Culliver gets $16 million fully guaranteed at signing | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Risky, but sometimes you gotta roll the dice. To hedge that bet, the Redskins may draft another corner in Rounds 1 - 4. No blue chipper corners in the draft this year, but it seems pretty deep with good talent.

JoeRedskin 03-19-2015 06:58 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1109856] . . . Seems like we got the one we wanted and pretty close to the cap price you wanted.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Irrefutable take on the actual cost was pretty much spot on.

Have to admit I found the breakdown pleasantly surprising. Happy to admit I wrong on this one. Hope I 'm not wrong on the talent aspect.



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CRedskinsRule 03-19-2015 11:08 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1109860]Agreed. Irrefutable take on the actual cost was pretty much spot on.

Have to admit I found the breakdown pleasantly surprising. Happy to admit I wrong on this one. Hope I 'm not wrong on the talent aspect.



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My guess is his end pay will be in the area you were saying. The key is the not likely to be earned bonuses. Since he barely played, there could be a not likely to be earned bonus if he makes 3 tackles in a game, or two games with a pass defensed. So I am sure he feels confident he will earn them. Not to bother Lotus, but his being here is probably a kudos to BAs ability to write contracts as it is SM's talent evaluation.

That Guy 03-20-2015 01:40 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=warriorzpath;1109858]Risky, but sometimes you gotta roll the dice. To hedge that bet, the Redskins may draft another corner in Rounds 1 - 4. No blue chipper corners in the draft this year, but it seems pretty deep with good talent.[/quote]

it's not really risky. if he is unable to play due to legal issues or suspension, that guaranteed money is all voided and at least part of the signing bonus is coming back. maximum exposure is under $5m for the skins if he's suspended tomorrow, though we would be short a CB.

Lotus 03-20-2015 09:26 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1109878]My guess is his end pay will be in the area you were saying. The key is the not likely to be earned bonuses. Since he barely played, there could be a not likely to be earned bonus if he makes 3 tackles in a game, or two games with a pass defensed. So I am sure he feels confident he will earn them. Not to bother Lotus, but his being here is probably a kudos to [B]Eric Schaffer's ability to write contracts[/B] as it is SM's talent evaluation.[/quote]

Fixed for you. :)

ethat001 03-24-2015 09:29 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[QUOTE]
March 24, 2015 7:25 pm
Redskins CB Chris Culliver has charge reduced to misdemeanor
by Dave Peters | CBSSports.com
Newly signed Redskins cornerback Chris Culliver had his charge of felony possession of brass knuckles reduced to a misdemeanor on Tuesday, according to the Mercury News.

Culliver signed a four-year, $32 million deal with the Redskins earlier this month. He still has a charge pending involving one count of midemeanor hit-and-run. These charges were incurred while the cornerback was a member of the 49ers.

The 26-year-old was second on the 49ers' defense with four interceptions in 2014. For his career he has 127 total tackles, 35 passes defensed, seven interceptions and two forced fumbles.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/WAS/washington-redskins]Washington Redskins - NFL - CBSSports.com[/url]
[/QUOTE]

Good news.

JoeRedskin 03-25-2015 08:49 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Scot McC on his approach to free agency this year:

[quote]“We were like, let’s get some good players at the right price,” McCloughan said. “It’s not, go out and sign one or two guys and think, ‘OK, we’re that close to being a playoff contending team.’ We’re not. We’ve got to start building and building. Age was important. Medical history was important, and the contract was important.

...

We want to be able to run the ball, be able to pound the ball and get that D-line to want to quit and understand that when you play the Washington Redskins, we’ll come at you no matter what.””[/quote]

He also noted that this year's draft is deep in O-Linemen, not so much in safeties.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16231/scot-mccloughan-explains-washington-redskins-free-agent-strategy-eyes-draft-for-ol]Washington Redskins GM Scot McCloughan talks free agency, OL in draft - ESPN[/url]

Good stuff. It all sounds good. Unfortunately, gonna take a few years to actually build the talent and depth to pull it off.

KI Skins Fan 03-25-2015 09:29 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1110137]Scot McC on his approach to free agency this year:



He also noted that this year's draft is deep in O-Linemen, not so much in safeties.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16231/scot-mccloughan-explains-washington-redskins-free-agent-strategy-eyes-draft-for-ol]Washington Redskins GM Scot McCloughan talks free agency, OL in draft - ESPN[/url]

Good stuff. It all sounds good. Unfortunately, gonna take a few years to actually build the talent and depth to pull it off.[/quote]

SM is doing what he said he would do. Now we know what to expect. It's great to have a GM who tells you his team-building philosophy, makes a plan, and then sticks to his plan.

We fans are just going to have to be patient as he works his plan. More importantly, Dan Snyder needs to be patient for the plan to work.

I am very much looking forward to seeing more emphasis put on the power running game. I realize that the game has changed a lot since the 1980's and the NFL is now primarily a passing league but the power running game is still the kind of football I enjoy the most.

For me, John Riggins running behind the Hogs was the ultimate in Redskins football. Power running is in the Redskins DNA as represented by RBs like Larry Brown, Stephen Davis, and Clinton Portis and OLs like Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, and Mark May.

At this point, I think it's safe to assume that any OL we draft will be a very large man who is known for his run blocking.

Ruhskins 03-25-2015 09:51 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1110138]SM is doing what he said he would do. Now we know what to expect. It's great to have a GM who tells you his team-building philosophy, makes a plan, and then sticks to his plan.

We fans are just going to have to be patient as he works his plan. More importantly, Dan Snyder needs to be patient for the plan to work.

[B]I am very much looking forward to seeing more emphasis put on the power running game. I realize that the game has changed a lot since the 1980's and the NFL is now primarily a passing league but the power running game is still the kind of football I enjoy the most.[/B]

For me, John Riggins running behind the Hogs was the ultimate in Redskins football. Power running is in the Redskins DNA as represented by RBs like Larry Brown, Stephen Davis, and Clinton Portis and OLs like Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, and Mark May.

At this point, I think it's safe to assume that any OL we draft will be a very large man who is known for his run blocking.[/quote]

Well, Dallas and Seattle, the top two rushing teams in the league, won a lot of games last year thanks to their running game. Our team has historically been a running team, and we need to get back to that.

KI Skins Fan 03-25-2015 10:02 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1110139]Well, Dallas and Seattle, the top two rushing teams in the league, won a lot of games last year thanks to their running game. Our team has historically been a running team, and we need to get back to that.[/quote]

Good point. Beast Mode!

skinsguy 03-25-2015 11:04 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Loved what I read about Scot McCloughan's plan. Sounds like the 'skins are still not done in free agency, and sounds like he's going to try and address the offensive line with the draft. I believe the team will be improved next year, but I think you'll see better strides in year two or three under McCloughan. By that point, we'll know if Gruden is our guy in regards to coaching, and of course if RGIII or Cousins is the quarterback of the future.

JoeRedskin 03-25-2015 01:27 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Very simply ... Patience Daniel-san.

Scotty "Miyagi" McC to Little Daniel-san: "We make sacred pact. I promise teach [building a champion] to you, you promise learn. I say, you do, no questions."

budw38 03-25-2015 08:30 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1110155]Very simply ... Patience Daniel-san.

Scotty "Miyagi" McC to Little Daniel-san: "We make sacred pact. I promise teach [building a champion] to you, you promise learn. I say, you do, no questions."[/quote]

Awesome , brilliant and simple !! Balance Daniel-son , balance !

Chico23231 03-29-2015 12:05 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
I go with a #1 cb slightly over the nt knighton move. All have been great though.

MTK 03-29-2015 12:35 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
What I really like about the moves so far is we're seeing a commitment to being a tough, physical team that plays with some attitude.

skinsfan69 03-29-2015 01:44 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
I give a slight edge to Knighton over Culliver. If he can get in shape, he's just what the defense has been missing. Just a little concerned that Denver let him walk out the door without any attempt to resign him.

Lotus 03-29-2015 02:51 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Pot Roast is a two down player. Culliver is good but not great. Paea, however, could thrive if he is given a gap-shooting role like he said he was promised. So I voted Paea.

That Guy 03-29-2015 05:49 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
went with the corner, paea is a safer signing though, no baggage, solid player.

mrreddman 03-29-2015 05:53 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
As for the poll... i really like all of the signings and believe they all will contribute.
Francois... id give C+ ...nice depth signing but not a starter
Paea....id give a B+... Big strong DE who will give us some push and inside pass rush in nickle
Knighton... id give an A-... Awesome run stopper with major beef to wear down opposing OL
Culliver... id give an A... Just what the doctor ordered. Tall, strong, rangy CB to team with Breeland
Johnson.. id give an A+.. Fills a major need. Big, physical, fast, hungry SS who also excels on ST for cheap contract. while unproven i believe he will be very good player given the chance to prove himself. All tbinhs considered i think he is our BEST signing given need, contract, age and ability.

I love the way SM is adding players to defense to emulate the Seahawks D. lots of physical DL to rotate, and big rangy DBs to play press coverage and play physical football. Still need to add an OLB to rush the passer in the draft and get a FS either thru the draft, FA (Goldston?) or move Hall.or Amerson to FS and our D should be much improved. Solidify the D to keep us in games, work on the OL in the draft and get some DECENT play out of our QB and we should at least be competetive this year.We have weapons on offense if our QB play can get em the ball.

KI Skins Fan 03-29-2015 05:57 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
I went with Culliver over Knighton because we have him signed for four years as opposed to one year for Knighton. Both of them should make significant contributions.

Evilgrin 03-30-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
Knighton is motivated, so that should help us.

SirLK26 03-30-2015 07:43 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/03/30/redskins-sign-running-back-michael-hill/]Redskins sign running back Michael Hill - The Washington Post[/url]

Better add this guy to the poll. :Smoker:

los panda 03-30-2015 10:16 PM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=Lotus;1110324]Pot Roast is a two down player. Culliver is good but not great. Paea, however, could thrive if he is given a gap-shooting role like he said he was promised. So I voted Paea.[/quote]he another joe salave'a to me.

please quote this post in 3 or 4 seasons to see if he done did bettah.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-31-2015 02:10 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=los panda;1110369]he another joe salave'a to me.

please quote this post in 3 or 4 seasons to see if he done did bettah.[/quote]

Joe Salave'a was never the player Knighton has shown he can be

Redskins_P 03-31-2015 10:06 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1110370]Joe Salave'a was never the player Knighton has shown he can be[/quote]

Yeah, not sure why we're using him as a comparison. Knighton is known throughout the league while Salave'a was just a guy.

over the mountain 03-31-2015 10:28 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
I think Los was comparing Paea to Salave (i could be wrong).

I went Culliver as well. To be honest I dont know much about any of the guys we signed besides articles written about them after they signed with us.

Culliver under control for 4 yrs vs pot roast w 1. Culliver is young and seems to be on the rise of his career without ever really getting a starter chance. I also like the fact that teams who know him (Sea and Sf) were in pursuit. Plus he is a Scot hand picked guy. And at a position of high need for our team and league demand overall.

i thought the same thing about josh wilson as well so time will tell.

surprised Tracy Porter has not been cut, but in Scot i trust.

los panda 03-31-2015 10:32 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
sorry for not making that clear, i was comparing paea to salave'a. i expect a similar impact.

and maybe pot roast can give us more than daryl gardener gave us in 2002.

los panda 03-31-2015 10:35 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
i went culliver because it's a multi-year contract. could have been pot roast...

JoeRedskin 03-31-2015 10:48 AM

Re: Redskins 2015 Signings (and Re-Signings) Thread
 
McC has said that if Knighton plays well this year, he will reward Knighton next year. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. I fully expect Knighton to perform as he has the last couple years - very well. Does that mean a 6M/yr (or more) extension? If he doesn't get extended or get monetary satisfaction, will it damage McC's credibility?

Love Knighton signing. For the type of play he has exhibited, I think we got him on the cheap (even for a two-down player) and will be interested to see how McC handles it going forward. One of those "put a pin in it" deals that could, eventually, have a significant effect on how UFA's view the Skins in the future ("play well and they'll pay well" v. "can't trust them").


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