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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1139018]I call bullshit.....

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/54705/Eli-Manning-explains-his-blank-look-during-Super-Bowl/Default.aspx]Eli Manning explains his blank look during Super Bowl[/url][/QUOTE]
Well like the article says he was doing simple math. 1+1=2 SB wins for Peyton

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139027]You're complaining about a guy that pretty much plays as his team's second running back and takes a TON of hits, in a league that protects QBs? Just let it go man.

:doh:[/quote]

Hey, he said it. Not me. This isn't something I conjured up. He could have dove on the ball and potentially kept his team in the game but didn't due to fear of injury? What kind of pussy says that? No way in fuck would I want a QB on my team that would puss out in the biggest game of the year. How can he look Jared Allen or Thomas in the face after those two played with broken bones?


...are you shitting me? If Kirk Cousins (or RG3) had did some shit like that, DC would be going apeshit. (including you)

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1139018]I call bullshit.....

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/54705/Eli-Manning-explains-his-blank-look-during-Super-Bowl/Default.aspx]Eli Manning explains his blank look during Super Bowl[/url][/quote]


LOL, of course you do .:doh:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139030]I'd be curious to see how many people were passionately upset when Peyton walked off the field after he lost to the Saints in 2010's Super Bowl.

I'm not condoning what Cam did, it was very disappointing to see what he did. Hopefully he'll learn from this. But people are acting like he literally told everyone to f*ck off in the presser.[/quote]

Just a few years ago the newest hot young QB to challenge the old QB guard was in the Super Bowl and lost and he wasn't happy but this shit didn't happen with him,now he wants to play for the Jets.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139030]I'd be curious to see how many people were passionately upset when Peyton walked off the field after he lost to the Saints in 2010's Super Bowl.

[B]I'm not condoning what Cam did, it was very disappointing to see what he did. Hopefully he'll learn from this. But people are acting like he literally told everyone to f*ck off in the presser.[/quote]
[/B]
I would agree here. The media is just taking this and pounding it into the ground.

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I'll say this: he wants that big, shiny camera on him for EVERY shtick he has (towel around head, Superman pose, dabbing, giving the ball to the kids). If he wants that camera, he's going to get it in good times and bad.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139035]Hey, he said it. Not me. This isn't something I conjured up. He could have dove on the ball and potentially kept his team in the game but didn't due to fear of injury? What kind of pussy says that? No way in fuck would I want a QB on my team that would puss out in the biggest game of the year. How can he look Jared Allen or Thomas in the face after those two played with broken bones?


...are you shitting me? If Kirk Cousins (or RG3) had did some shit like that, DC would be going apeshit. (including you)[/quote]

Lol I think you're overreacting. Cam takes as many hits as any qb in the game today, he's clearly not a pussy. Maybe he had a brain fart? If he did, would you still be reacting like this? Would you go apeshit if Kirk Cousins had a brain fart in a critical moment like that? Just to refresh your memory, Kirk Cousins did have a brain fart at a critical moment in a critical game during our season, but since we won all was forgiven.

The Panthers lost because they were dominated on offense from start to finish. Maybe they recover the fumble, and go on to continue to lose, again because they were literally being dominated from start to finish. Or what if he dives on the ball and breaks his leg, and they still lose? One play rarely makes or breaks a game (exceptions being the Packers hail mary game, etc.) This one was not going to be the exception to the rule.

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In the end, that was a terrible Super Bowl. If I didn't 20 prop bets I might have fallen asleep.

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[quote=mooby;1139042]Lol I think you're overreacting. Cam takes as many hits as any qb in the game today, he's clearly not a pussy. Maybe he had a brain fart? If he did, would you still be reacting like this? Would you go apeshit if Kirk Cousins had a brain fart in a critical moment like that? Just to refresh your memory, Kirk Cousins did have a brain fart at a critical moment in a critical game during our season, but since we won all was forgiven. [/quote]

Me overreacting? I can't believe any of you guys are saying this....lol Apparently you don't know how Panther fans are taking this (not good) because they know that Thomas played with a broken arm and Allen with a broken foot. They were down 6 points with 4 minutes. Recovering that ball could have made a huge difference in the game.

This wasn't a brain fart or I would understand that. Him saying he didn't want to get hurt (even though he runs all the time) diving for a ball in the biggest game of the year (probably his life) is something entirely different.

Don't compare what Kirk did to what Cam did. They aren't remotely the same. If Kirk had downed the ball in the Super Bowl because he didn't want to get hurt, you god damn right I'd be furious.

I want a player who's going to leave it all out on the field come the big game. This is regular season. I'm absolutely in shock this dude said this.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139035]Hey, he said it. Not me. This isn't something I conjured up. He could have dove on the ball and potentially kept his team in the game but didn't due to fear of injury? What kind of pussy says that? No way in fuck would I want a QB on my team that would puss out in the biggest game of the year. How can he look Jared Allen or Thomas in the face after those two played with broken bones?


[B]...are you shitting me? If Kirk Cousins (or RG3) had did some shit like that, DC would be going apeshit. (including you)[/B][/quote]

Yes, because I am a Redskins fan. You're going apeshit, like you own Panthers season tickets.

Personally, I think it is a stupid answer, because EVERYONE knows Cam always takes a ton of hits, so it doesn't make any sense. I don't know how you can call him a pussy, when he has taken more hits than any QB on the league.

Once again, not saying what he did is justifiable or right; but you're acting like Cam committed a crime or something. I just don't get the outrage.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139047]Me overreacting? I can't believe any of you guys are saying this....lol Apparently you don't know how Panther fans are taking this (not good) because they know that Thomas played with a broken arm and Allen with a broken foot. They were down 6 points with 4 minutes. Recovering that ball could have made a huge difference in the game.

This wasn't a brain fart or I would understand that. Him saying he didn't want to get hurt (even though he runs all the time) diving for a ball in the biggest game of the year (probably his life) is something entirely different.

Don't compare what Kirk did to what Cam did. They aren't remotely the same. If Kirk had downed the ball in the Super Bowl because he didn't want to get hurt, you god damn right I'd be furious.

[B]I want a player who's going to leave it all out on the field come the big game. This is regular season. I'm absolutely in shock this dude said this.[/B][/quote]

[SIZE="5"][B]BUT YOU'RE NOT A PANTHERS FAN SO GET OVER IT![/B][/SIZE]

:postcop:

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[quote=mredskins;1139029]Do you really care?

My life is no different.[/quote]

Yes! Yes I do!

(OK, no I don't. Just observing the lameness of it all.)

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If people want to lose their sh*t and complain about a current NFL player (although not for long), go to the NFL and stuff thread and complain about this:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14742073/johnny-manziel-strike-ruptured-ex-girlfriend-eardrum-lawyer-says]Johnny Manziel's strike ruptured ex-girlfriend's eardrum, her lawyer says[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139048]Yes, because I am a Redskins fan. You're going apeshit, like you own Panthers season tickets.

Personally, I think it is a stupid answer, because EVERYONE knows Cam always takes a ton of hits, so it doesn't make any sense. I don't know how you can call him a pussy, when he has taken more hits than any QB on the league.

Once again, not saying what he did is justifiable or right; but you're acting like Cam committed a crime or something. I just don't get the outrage.[/quote]

You do realize I pull for Carolina when they aren't playing us right? How can you not be shocked when a guy who bulls people over and wins MVP say some stupid shit like he did. No, it doesn't make sense, but I'm not the one that said it. He did. He's the one that said he didn't dive on the ball because he didn't want to get hurt.

He didn't commit a crime, but he committed one when it comes to the football world. Not giving it your all in the Super Bowl would probably be one of the biggest faux pas there is in the sport.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139049][SIZE="5"][B]BUT YOU'RE NOT A PANTHERS FAN SO GET OVER IT![/B][/SIZE]

:postcop:[/quote]

No, it's not like I didn't follow the Panthers ever since their first draft pick of Kerry Collins or go to any of their games (like their first playoff win against Dallas Cowboys at home). Truth be told, if I were younger, I most likely would be a Panthers fan. That said, I'm not bailing on the Skins just because Carolina finally got a NFL team.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139053]You do realize I pull for Carolina when they aren't playing us right? How can you not be shocked when a guy who bulls people over and wins MVP say some stupid shit like he did. No, it doesn't make sense, but I'm not the one that said it. He did. He's the one that said he didn't dive on the ball because he didn't want to get hurt.

He didn't commit a crime, but he committed one when it comes to the football world. Not giving it your all in the Super Bowl would probably be one of the biggest faux pas there is in the sport.[/quote]

Cam was a freaking punching bag in that game. You want to know who else didn't try at that game? Michael Oher and Mike Remmers, who got completely owned by Ware and Von Miller.

I guess if you're a Panthers fan you can be that upset.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139056]No, it's not like I didn't follow the Panthers ever since their first draft pick of Kerry Collins or go to any of their games (like their first playoff win against Dallas Cowboys at home). Truth be told, if I were younger, I most likely would be a Panthers fan. That said, I'm not bailing on the Skins just because Carolina finally got a NFL team.

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I think we need to take points off your Redskins card :laughing-

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139058]I think we need to take points off your Redskins card :laughing-[/quote]

No need to. I'm 100% Skins if they play the Panthers. :joecool: Also, I don't own any Panthers gear either. Truth be told, I'm quite agitated we play so poorly against the Panthers year in and year out.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139057]Cam was a freaking punching bag in that game. You want to know who else didn't try at that game? Michael Oher and Mike Remmers, who got completely owned by Ware and Von Miller.

I guess if you're a Panthers fan you can be that upset.[/quote]

I think you are assuming I blame Cam for the loss. That was a complete disaster by EVERYBODY on that offensive unit. Offensive line, QB, WRs, RBs....all were utter shit that game. Bad blocking, fumbles, dropped passes galore, overthrown passes, holding ball too long, offside penalties, sacks given up.....it was like it was a pre-season game for that offensive unit.

The sad part of the game is nobody is going to notice how well that defensive unit played against Denver offense.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139062]I think you are assuming I blame Cam for the loss. That was a complete disaster by EVERYBODY on that offensive unit. Offensive line, QB, WRs, RBs....all were utter shit that game. Bad blocking, fumbles, dropped passes galore, overthrown passes, holding ball too long, offside penalties, sacks given up.....it was like it was a pre-season game for that offensive unit.

The sad part of the game is nobody is going to notice how well that defensive unit played against Denver offense.[/quote]

True. I think is that Denver's offense was THAT good. Ironically, in the week leading up to the SB, all the pundits were talking about how the Carolina D was going to dominate Denver's offense; which they actually did. But no one thought Denver's D was going to be this good.

I honestly thought Denver's D was going not going to be able to keep up and/or be able to carry the game.

Overall, it was just amazing to see these two defensive performance. And I'm glad I haven't seen many people complain about this.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139059]No need to. I'm 100% Skins if they play the Panthers. :joecool: Also, I don't own any Panthers gear either. Truth be told, I'm quite agitated we play so poorly against the Panthers year in and year out.[/quote]

Jason Campbell's first start!

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Being from North Carolina, I think of the Panthers as the Redskins younger first cousin. I'm obviously closer with the Redskins and would never even consider dropping them. At the same time, there's a sense of hometown pride with the Panthers. That being said, I would not say the same thing if I lived in Dallas! :)

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N C Skins...he had a bad play there, it happens. Maybe it was a brain fart or a split second type of thing where he felt he couldn't get to the ball the way he was standing. Probably came out wrong by him saying he didn't want to injure himself by tying to get the ball. But Cam Newton is not a pussy. How many NFL QB's have you ever seen run the ball into the teeth of NFL defenses the way he does? And continue to stay healthy? Cam's a stud and a tough as nails QB, just had a bad play.

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Questioning Cam's toughness is just fucking absurd.

He's human, he goofed big time by not jumping on the fumble. Oh well. Such is life.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1139088]N C Skins...he had a bad play there, it happens. Maybe it was a brain fart or a split second type of thing where he felt he couldn't get to the ball the way he was standing. Probably came out wrong by him saying he didn't want to injure himself by tying to get the ball. But Cam Newton is not a pussy. How many NFL QB's have you ever seen run the ball into the teeth of NFL defenses the way he does? And continue to stay healthy? Cam's a stud and a tough as nails QB, just had a bad play.[/quote]
Don't like Cam....
Probably won't
Considering his play....he is a phenom that played his ass off this year...deserves the MVP and I wish I was as much of a pussy as he is.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1139047]Me overreacting? I can't believe any of you guys are saying this....lol Apparently you don't know how Panther fans are taking this (not good) because they know that Thomas played with a broken arm and Allen with a broken foot. They were down 6 points with 4 minutes. Recovering that ball could have made a huge difference in the game.

This wasn't a brain fart or I would understand that. Him saying he didn't want to get hurt (even though he runs all the time) diving for a ball in the biggest game of the year (probably his life) is something entirely different.

Don't compare what Kirk did to what Cam did. They aren't remotely the same. If Kirk had downed the ball in the Super Bowl because he didn't want to get hurt, you god damn right I'd be furious.

I want a player who's going to leave it all out on the field come the big game. This is regular season. I'm absolutely in shock this dude said this.[/quote]

Lol they're just words. Going apeshit over it does nothing. If you look at the whole body of work, you'd see Cam takes as many hits as any qb in the league. Evidence is suggesting he's not a pussy. Besides, who the hell knows what really was going on in his mind when it happened? Maybe he lied just to get it over with. Either way I don't care. They got dominated and they lost.

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The answer is simple ... he wanted to try and pick the ball up and make a play on 3rd down, not dive on it.

Cam is in a perfect position and distance to dive on the ball ... if he wanted to do that.

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Here, as he starts to reach down, ware puts his arm out and now Cam is too close and his leg is too stiff to now dive down ...

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^^ here is a link to a GIF of the play. More clearly shows Cam approaching the ball with the intent to scoop it up ...

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Side note on this whole conversation: I've never seen fans of a single team taking such hard stands on a player not even on the Redskins. LOL. :D

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I was surprised by the Panthers strategy on offense. I'm not sure how much difference gameplan made though when everybody underperformed.

OL was losing to their DL. They couldn't run-on didn't make lanes and RBs didn't create, pass pro wasn't good (to include a key missed blitz pickup by Fozzy). Cam lost 2 fumbles. WRs couldn't separate and didn't make any plays and had drops. Talib made Olsen disappear. Brown's injury hurt and Stewart wasn't the same after he got banged up.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1139098]Side note on this whole conversation: I've never seen fans of a single team taking such hard stands on a player not even on the Redskins. LOL. :D[/quote]

LOL!!! I think ol' NC is about to hyperventilate! He's either going to internally combust or he's going to shart himself!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1139098]Side note on this whole conversation: I've never seen fans of a single team taking such hard stands on a player not even on the Redskins. LOL. :D[/quote]Ummm, check out the Josh Gordon thread just a little below this one. Not just individual posts.. the Josh Gordon THREAD.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1139088]N C Skins...he had a bad play there, it happens.[B] Maybe it was a brain fart or a split second type of thing where he felt he couldn't get to the ball the way he was standing. [/B]Probably came out wrong by him saying he didn't want to injure himself by tying to get the ball. But Cam Newton is not a pussy. How many NFL QB's have you ever seen run the ball into the teeth of NFL defenses the way he does? And continue to stay healthy? Cam's a stud and a tough as nails QB, just had a bad play.[/quote]


I had no problem with the play to be honest with you. I didn't really question the man's effort or toughness, and I chalked it up to a brain fart. THEN....he started to speak to the media and pretty much blew it from there. How can you do so many things that put yourself out there on the field, and then come tell reporters you didn't want to get hurt? Is he really that dumb or is he just that selfish?


[quote=MTK;1139089]Questioning Cam's toughness is just fucking absurd.

He's human, he goofed big time by not jumping on the fumble. Oh well. Such is life.[/quote]

I don't think anybody up here questioned his toughness until he made the excuse about not wanting to get hurt. I agree. He did goof and he is human. So why not just say that? Why say some bullshit about not wanting to get hurt?

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[quote=mooby;1139092]Lol they're just words. Going apeshit over it does nothing. If you look at the whole body of work, you'd see Cam takes as many hits as any qb in the league. Evidence is suggesting he's not a pussy. Besides, who the hell knows what really was going on in his mind when it happened? Maybe he lied just to get it over with. Either way I don't care. They got dominated and they lost.[/quote]

I know he's not a pussy, but I'm going to call him one if he says he didn't dive on a fumble in the biggest game of his career out of fear of being hurt. In fact, I'd go as far to say that anybody in the NFL isn't a pussy. You got to be pretty tough to make it that far.



[quote=metalskins;1139110]LOL!!! I think ol' NC is about to hyperventilate! He's either going to internally combust or he's going to shart himself![/quote]


I'm just dumbfounded by the league MVP saying he didn't want to get hurt by diving on a fumble during the Super Bowl. A fumble that could have gave them another opportunity to come back. I assure you I went to bed the same that night and sleep just as good.



Me personally, I think there are a lot of aspects of Cam that is straight up selfish. It's about him. What kind of tool wears cleats honoring his own MVP? (an award he most definitely deserved)

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How vain do you have to be to wear some shit like this?....lol Cam is like RG3 in the aspect that he wants and loves the limelight, until that same light starts to burn him. Then he wants no part of it. He too will be humbled one way or another.


I think we've seen the last of "the Dab".

[B]@sonofbum

A little Dab will do you but too much Dab will undo you![/B]


You know it's bad when old man Wade Phillips is trolling you.

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I haven't listened to NFL Radio all week because it's just Cam talk 24/7.

Someone please pour me a big steaming mug of who gives a flying fuck.

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[quote=MTK;1139177]I haven't listened to NFL Radio all week because it's just Cam talk 24/7.

Someone please pour me a big steaming mug of who gives a flying fuck.[/quote]So what do you think of this year's playoff teams next season.?

I think Denver, Houston, and Cincinnati won't make the playoffs.

Washington, Green Bay, Minnesota, Seattle, KC, and Arizona might make the playoffs.

New England will make the playoffs.

I pick Pittsburgh and Carolina in the next superbowl. Ugh.

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[quote=MTK;1139177]I haven't listened to NFL Radio all week because it's just Cam talk 24/7.

Someone please pour me a big steaming mug of who gives a flying fuck.[/quote]

Is it any different than when RG3 was a thing? Polarizing people are going to dominate the press. That said, I don't listen to any of that shit to begin with...lol Media love to build up a guy just so they can tear him down. It doesn't help when these guys give them all the ammo and fuel they need.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1139179]So what do you think of this year's playoff teams next season.?



I think Denver, Houston, and Cincinnati won't make the playoffs.



Washington, Green Bay, Minnesota, Seattle, KC, and Arizona might make the playoffs.



New England will make the playoffs.



I pick Pittsburgh and Carolina in the next superbowl. Ugh.[/QUOTE]


Tough to say before any moves are made, but I think Seattle is a couple of moves away from being a strong SB contender again.

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:doh:

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denver's D is good enough to be back in the playoffs. they got there with tim tebow at QB and i'd have to imagine osweiler is just a bit better.

that's assuming they can keep the band together. it's more likely they lose quite a few FAs, since people like poaching SB rosters. then all bets are off.