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Switching up my stance. I'm off Mayfield @ pick 13.
Partially because its rumored that he won't be there but more because I've been watching more YouTube cut-ups and I think Lamar Jackson is the sleeper prospect in this draft and if he's there at 13 you gotta take him.

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[quote=30gut;1189096]Switching up my stance. I'm off Mayfield @ pick 13.
Partially because its rumored that he won't be there but more because I've been watching more YouTube cut-ups and I think Lamar Jackson is the sleeper prospect in this draft and if he's there at 13 you gotta take him.[/quote]

Lamar Jackson is RGIII 2.0

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[quote=Irrefutable;1189097]Lamar Jackson is RGIII 2.0[/quote]

I agree 100%. The guy would have to gain like 20-30 lbs before I would even considering putting him out there. Guy is built like RG III, maybe even slimmer, plus his stats melt away when he is up against primo competition most of the time. He wouldn't have been so prolific in the SEC or even the Big Ten.

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[QUOTE=30gut;1189096]Switching up my stance. I'm off Mayfield @ pick 13.
Partially because its rumored that he won't be there but more because I've been watching more YouTube cut-ups and I think Lamar Jackson is the sleeper prospect in this draft and if he's there at 13 you gotta take him.[/QUOT

We have bigger needs than at QB. We need RB, WR, and DB upgrades before QB. No decent running game=no playoffs for the foreseeable future. Also, the more I see of this QB class, the more I think it is overhyped.

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To Ivar and refutable...how much of Lamar Jackson have you watched?

Since it appears we're not having a discussion and just posting 1 liners here's mine:

Lamar Jackson is Aaron Rodgers.

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[quote=30gut;1189113]To Ivar and refutable...how much of Lamar Jackson have you watched?

Since it appears we're not having a discussion and just posting 1 liners here's mine:

Lamar Jackson is Aaron Rodgers.[/quote]

My one liner is: I think it was a mistake not drafting a QB a few years ago.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1189152]My one liner is: I think it was a mistake not drafting a QB a few years ago.[/quote]Lol, the irony is that you probably think your one liner is a dig against me when it's actually a dig at the poorly run front office for a QB debacle that some of you had your head too deep in the sand to deep to see.

So yeah, it's funny that they haven't drafted and developed QBs over the past few years.

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With so many areas of need and the depth of this draft, trading back from 13th for additional picks is probably the best plan for the Redskins. I said the same last year, however, but somehow Allen fell to us and it was a no brainer. Sometimes a chance at an elite starter outweighs multiple shots at good starters. With that said, I've started thinking about who are the guys in this draft I would take at 13 over a trade back. There are at least 10 other guys if be very happy with at 13, but feel like we could still get if we traded back, they're not at a position of need, not a great fit, could get close value to at same position with a later pick, etc. Here's my list:

Barkley
B. Chubb
Fitzpatrick
Nelson
Edmonds
Smith
Ridley
Payne
Vea

Do you agree? What does your list look like?

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Agree with trading back, a move to trade down and recoup a pick to help with the loss of Fuller would be wise. Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Payne are the three who are most appealing for me, personally, but there are others for sure. Ultimately I'm a fan of having more swings of the bat. Moving down to acquire more assets is a good move, if there's a willing trade partner.

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[quote=Schneed10;1189181]Agree with trading back, a move to trade down and recoup a pick to help with the loss of Fuller would be wise. Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Payne are the three who are most appealing for me, personally, but there are others for sure. Ultimately I'm a fan of having more swings of the bat. Moving down to acquire more assets is a good move, if there's a willing trade partner.[/quote]

I'm all for trading down too.
Mainly because there aren't many difference makers at positions of need for us available in FA.
So we'll to find some of them in the draft.

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IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1189186]IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.[/quote]

Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.

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[quote=Schneed10;1189192]Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.[/quote]

To be completely honest my judgement may be tainted by the fact I have very little knowledge of college football talent.
So, yeah, a lot can happen between now and the moment we're on the clock.

But the way I see our needs (#1WR, RB, LG, DT/NT, CB - btw what are we waiting for to sign Zach Brown?), and the lack of exciting opportunities in FA, I think 3 or 4 picks in the first 3 rounds could be better than just 2 as it stands now...

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Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917566/article/mike-mayock-six-qbs-in-play-for-first-round-of-2018-nfl-draft]Mike Mayock: Six QBs in play for first round of 2018 NFL Draft - NFL.com[/url]

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What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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[quote=Dan73;1189212]What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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No, I wouldn't think so. Too mamy holes to sign someone and draft someone at 13 on the defensive line. Although, you can never have too much beef, so I actually wouldn't be opposed to double dipping.

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“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.

Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson is a likely top-10 pick and one of the safest players in the draft, and after Nelson, Mayock said there are seven interior linemen who project solidly to go in the top three rounds.
The top spot on our list is a no-brainer. Nelson is the best lineman in the draft, arguably the top lineman in the country, and the only offensive lineman in my Top 10 list (third on that list). I have raved about him throughout the season, and he should be a top-10 pick in the 2018 draft, if not a top-5. He plays with elite power, technique, and awareness. He has agility and balance in pass protection, and all the “nasty” you could ask for.
This would solidify our o-line and solve our power running game woes.
With all of the reaching that happen every year for qb's and that Nelson is a guard, this guy could be there at 13. At 6' 5" and 345 pounds he is described as mean.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1189214]“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.

Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson is a likely top-10 pick and one of the safest players in the draft, and after Nelson, Mayock said there are seven interior linemen who project solidly to go in the top three rounds.
The top spot on our list is a no-brainer. Nelson is the best lineman in the draft, arguably the top lineman in the country, and the only offensive lineman in my Top 10 list (third on that list). I have raved about him throughout the season, and he should be a top-10 pick in the 2018 draft, if not a top-5. He plays with elite power, technique, and awareness. He has agility and balance in pass protection, and all the “nasty” you could ask for.
This would solidify our o-line and solve our power running game woes.
With all of the reaching that happen every year for qb's and that Nelson is a guard, this guy could be there at 13. At 6' 5" and 345 pounds he is described as mean.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with all of this. I am very hyped about Vita Vea, but if Nelson is there, I think they have to take him. So many reasons why:

1. Immediate starter at one of very few clear starter holes on the roster. It's a big roster need and a starting role that could and would be vastly improved.

2. He would be an every down player so he would have the biggest impact on this team year 1 day 1. (Vea would likely rotate and play less reps overall for example)

3. Our running game would definitely improve, especially on short yardage plays, dude knows how to blow a hole into a wall of defenders.

4. It's a long-term lock down of a position. It's generally not hard to afford to keep you're talent on the line long term, especially guard.

5. He's a for sure starter, probably pro bowler early, and is a sure thing long term. WRs, RBs, DBs, etc have a higher bust/career altering injury probability

6. Equivalent talent in FA is very freaking expensive and frankly there's probably one.

7. There are some good guards to be had in the first few rounds, but he's probably one of two impact guards in the draft. Others might be solid to very good starters, but there's only a few guards in the league who's elite abilities are profoundly impactful in making plays, he has that kind of talent.

8. We would arguably have the best LT in the league, a top 5 or so RT, best 1 or 2 RG in the league, and potentially a top 5 LG. Not to mention a very good young C. LG has been the achilles heel of this unit for years, he would round out the true Hogs 2.0


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189211]Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917566/article/mike-mayock-six-qbs-in-play-for-first-round-of-2018-nfl-draft]Mike Mayock: Six QBs in play for first round of 2018 NFL Draft - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I think the fear on him was being type cast as a 2 down player.

Cooley broke him down on the show the other day and really hyped him up compared to his initial observation and statement pre-breakdown.

He doesn't have the moves that Payne has, but essentially should be able to take a center or guard and put them in the QBs lap. Freakish size and strength. Next to Allen and Ionnidas, he would be unbelievable.

Caveat is, I think Payne would be a solid pick as well and definitely has more twitch.

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Guice

4.49 40! That is the guy I want at 13, F it.

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Guice, that was a good one!! Deep Blue Sea, they ate me, a shark fucking ate me!! Samuel Jackson Beer.

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Rashaad Penny ran 4.47, Redskins meet with him yesterday. Could see him being a realistic pick for us in the 4th if we miss out on the early round guys.

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[quote=WillH;1189547]Rashaad Penny ran 4.47, Redskins meet with him yesterday. Could see him being a realistic pick for us in the 4th if we miss out on the early round guys.

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That's my guy! I'd take him with the 2nd. Can't miss out on stud RB once again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189550]That's my guy! I'd take him with the 2nd. Can't miss out on stud RB once again.[/quote]

Next Faulk?

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1189550]That's my guy! I'd take him with the 2nd. Can't miss out on stud RB once again.[/QUOTE] Yeah, his stock may rise that high.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189551]Next Faulk?[/quote]

Ha, never predict anyone to be that good lol. Half of Faulk in his prime is still our best RB.

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Chark, Callaway, and Kirk all looking like good options today for what the Skins are looking for at receiver I think.

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From walterfootball.com:

[I]Redskins See Potential for Moving Down[/I]
Updated March 3, 2018

Read more: [url=http://www.walterfootball.com/NFLHotPress#ixzz58iZLARWX]WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press[/url]

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I really really want one of these top RBs at 13

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1189581]From walterfootball.com:

[I]Redskins See Potential for Moving Down[/I]
Updated March 3, 2018

Read more: [url=http://www.walterfootball.com/NFLHotPress#ixzz58iZLARWX]WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press[/url][/QUOTE]Good read thanks.

I really don't like the idea of drafting a QB this year though. We just addressed this position, we have other needs.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1189582]I really really want one of these top RBs at 13[/QUOTE]Which RBs would you take at 13 besides Barkley?

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[quote=MTK;1189582]I really really want one of these top RBs at 13[/quote]

Taking a RB in the first round? fuck that noise. RBs are a dime a dozen. Give me OL, DL or ILB/CB. Game is won on the front line.

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That's good to hear, between him and Vea we could really upgrade our run D in this draft.

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[quote=MTK;1189582]I really really want one of these top RBs at 13[/quote]

I will keep saying it. Derrius Guice is my choice at 13. Bpa 2nd round and hopefully can get DJ Chark in th e mid rounds

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[quote=WillH;1189584]Which RBs would you take at 13 besides Barkley?

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Guice is the only other one I would take at 13

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If we could trade down and still get Vea, Payne, or Guice in the first round, that would be money.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1189593]If we could trade down and still get Vea, Payne, or Guice in the first round, that would be money.[/QUOTE]That's my vote. Still can get Chubb or Michel or Jones in the 2nd probably. Or Tim Settle. I hope we pick up a good G in free agency, because it will be hard to turn down a RB and DT with the first two picks.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1189585]Taking a RB in the first round? fuck that noise. RBs are a dime a dozen. Give me OL, DL or ILB/CB. Game is won on the front line.[/QUOTE]


We’ve been using the dime a dozen guys the past few years and our run game has been ass

Time to bring in some legit talent

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[quote=MTK;1189601]We’ve been using the dime a dozen guys the past few years and our run game has been ass

Time to bring in some legit talent[/quote]

Agree 100 with you and Quake. Would love 1st and 2nd round talent at RB and DL. Don't care which is 1st or 2nd.