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[quote=AnonEmouse;1372590]EB is Bears new RB coach. Bit of a come down from OC in KC and here. Wonder if he'll ever be an OC again.[/quote]

EB is just a different guy, even though he sucked here I’m pulling for him to land on his feet. Chicago is a decent job for him, hoping it works out.

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[quote=Chico23231;1372607]EB is just a different guy, even though he sucked here I’m pulling for him to land on his feet. Chicago is a decent job for him, hoping it works out.[/quote]

Same here, don't get the hate people have for him (or the obsession to see him fail).

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Chip Kelly takes the OC job at Raiders. May be a good fit with the right QB

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EB is a fraud. His last 2 years, showed he wasn’t a good OC and one those years was with us. Andy Reid ran that offense.

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Cal hired Ron in a front office role.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1372697]Cal hired Ron in a front office role.[/quote]

Didn't know he could do secretarial work?

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1372702]Didn't know he could do secretarial work?[/quote]

Cal is giving him the same role, Stanford gave Andrew Luck

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As expected, Saints are going with Eagles OC Kellen Moore.

Pats- Hire Former Titans coach, Mike Vrabel
Bears- Hire Lions OC Ben Johnson
Jets- Hire Lions DC Aaron Glenn
Jags- Hire Bucs OC Liam Coen
Raiders- Hire former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll
Cowboys- Hire OC Brian Schottenheimer
Saints- Hire Eagles OC Kellen Moore

Mike Vrabel should have Pats competitive again.
Ben Johnson likely to have most success.
Aaron Glenn likely to fail because it’s the Jets.
Liam Coen needs Trever Lawrence to rebound or he’ll fail.
Pete Carroll could set up the Raiders for his eventual successor, if Raiders get a QB.
Brian Shottenheimer will ultimately fail as Boys won’t get past divisional round.
Kellen Moore will fail with Saints.

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Based on the moves the Steelers are making this offseason, it looks like they are trying to at least win a playoff game this year. I think Tomlin is on the hot seat. Despite him not ever having a losing season; he hasn’t won a playoff game since 2016. Steelers are tired of that and they can move off from Tomlin; if they fail to do that. Maybe not an outright firing; but pushed out or traded.

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Training camp is in full swing. The last camp for many coaches.

[U]Training Camp Hot Seat[/U]

Giants- Probably, the hottest seat out there. Daboll is likely dead man walking. If the Giants don't finish with at least 7-8 wins; showing some improvement. He's done. Especially, if Dart plays most of season.

Boys- Could Shotty Jr be one and done? If the Boys fail to make playoffs, Jerry may be desperate and make a change.

Panthers- Tepper expects improvement and build upon Young's late season performance after his benching. if Panthers don't improve, Canales could be done.

Cards- They expect at least a winning season, Gannon could be gone; if they don't achieve at least that.

Colts- Steichen might be done if Colts fail to make playofffs; especially with Irsay's daughters now owner.

Titans- If Cam Ward doesn't have a good rookie season, Titans may go with someone else.

Browns- If the Browns don't find a long term QB from their 2 rookies and have a decent finish with the veteran qb; Stefanski likely gets the boot.

Bengals- Taylor starts slow again and fails to make the playoffs, Brown might make a move. Though the Bengals problems are the owner's fault. Cheapstake is causing holdouts with Hendrickson, rookie Stewart. I can see Burrow asking to be traded in a couple of years, after this.

Steelers- If the Steelers fail to win a playoff game; there might be a parting of the ways. No Tomlin won't be fired but pushed out. It's probably time for a change.

Bills- Another playoff exit and Mcdermott might be relieved of duties with the owner figuring he can't get them over the hump.

Dolphins- Team most likely to collasp this year. McDaniels is likely getting the boot when the fish bottom out this year.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1375135]Training camp is in full swing. The last camp for many coaches.

[U]Training Camp Hot Seat[/U]

Giants- Probably, the hottest seat out there. Daboll is likely dead man walking. If the Giants don't finish with at least 7-8 wins; showing some improvement. He's done. Especially, if Dart plays most of season.
.[/quote]
Giants have Wilson and Winston(DeVito), what makes you think Dart will start at all?

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[quote=Giantone;1375138]Giants have Wilson and Winston(DeVito), what makes you think Dart will start at all?[/quote]

Wilson is cooked and when the Giants starts with a losing record and Daboll gets fired; Mara will want a look at Dart.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1375139]Wilson is cooked and when the Giants starts with a losing record and Daboll gets fired; Mara will want a look at Dart.[/quote]I honestly think Mara was too lazy to fire Daboll last year and go through a new coach process. They were 3-14, and Daboll isn't exactly the most well liked coach around. Maybe Mara will be up to it next offseason lol.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375143]I honestly think Mara was too lazy to fire Daboll last year and go through a new coach process. They were 3-14, and [B]Daboll isn't exactly the most well liked coach around[/B]. Maybe Mara will be up to it next offseason lol.[/quote]


Actually none of that is true but I understand.

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[quote=Giantone;1375179]Actually none of that is true but I understand.[/quote]

Perception is reality!

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[quote=Meks;1375180]Perception is reality![/quote]

Giants will be awful again and Daboll will be fired before the season ends.

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[quote=Giantone;1375179]Actually none of that is true but I understand.[/quote]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375183]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?[/quote]

Do we want him fired? ;)

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375183]Players have called the team soft and complained about playing time before. Rumors of a disconnect with his own players have swirled there. They won 3 games last year. How did Mara not fire him?[/quote]

I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.

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[quote=Giantone;1375190]I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.[/quote]

It’s because Mara sucks. He’s poor in making head coach and gm
Decisions.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1375187]Do we want him fired? ;)[/quote]No although I do like their draft with Carter and Dart. Just don't see him being successful there long term.

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[quote=Giantone;1375190]I get you're not a Giants fan and I will change no minds here but none of that is true. Mara is giving him and Schoen their contracts Jones was not their call it was Mara's and he knows dumping Coaches every two years won't work.[/quote]Lawrence and Nabers calling team soft: [url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42590210/giants-players-call-team-soft-question-effort-loss[/url]

Giants players losing faith: [url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/09/20/some-new-york-giants-players-beginning-lose-faith-brian-daboll/75303235007/[/url]

Also, Daboll has been head coach there for 3 years not 2. I don't care honestly just want him retained. Pretty unusual to be there that long and have as bad of a season as they did and not get fired. I stand by my theory Mara didn't want to deal with as getting a new head coach as the process can be cumbersome.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375204]Lawrence and Nabers calling team soft: [url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42590210/giants-players-call-team-soft-question-effort-loss[/url]

Giants players losing faith: [url]https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/09/20/some-new-york-giants-players-beginning-lose-faith-brian-daboll/75303235007/[/url]

Also, Daboll has been head coach there for 3 years not 2. I don't care honestly just want him retained. Pretty unusual to be there that long and have as bad of a season as they did and not get fired. I stand by my theory Mara didn't want to deal with as getting a new head coach as the process can be cumbersome.[/quote]

Point is that the previous 3 coaches never made it past 2 seasons.Since Tom Coughlin departed as the head coach after the 2015 season, the Giants have had five head coaches, including Daboll.

Earlier this year, co-owner John Mara gave Schoen and Daboll a vote of confidence, pretty much telegraphing his future plans. Change for the sake of change is how he got here. Standing pat might be the right strategy this time around.


Your one link is two players questioning the play of fellow teammates I have no problem with players leading in the locker room your link on Daboll is a BS opinion from a reporter who had been in DS with the team. Not sure he even covers them anymore. Like I said not going to change any minds but what you posted wasn't true.


AI,While there isn't a single definitive answer, some New York Giants players have publicly expressed positive opinions of head coach Brian Daboll. Specifically, veteran wide receiver Darius Slayton has voiced support for Daboll and general manager Joe Schoen, suggesting they should be retained for another year to continue their work. Other players have highlighted Daboll's positive impact on the team's culture and his ability to foster a positive environment.

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Please stop posting AI results lol

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[quote=Giantone;1375212]Like I said not going to change any minds but what you posted wasn't true.[/quote]It is totally on Daboll to create a positive culture within his own team. Players calling out the team as soft and questioning the team's effort is an extraordinary indictment of a coach who isn't getting it done. Again, I don't care if the players like him or not. He has done nothing worthwhile in the NFL and is very fortunate to still be a head coach. Nearly impossible to believe a coach is well liked whose team is being called soft by it's own personnel, questioning fellow teammates effort in games, and losing faith in their coach while winning 3 games total in 1 season.

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I am all for Mara putting a halt to the roulette wheel of coaches, as long as the coach is lousy when to ball finds its slot. I don't really have a read on Daboll. He had the team over-performing a couple seasons ago, and he had a dreadful GM in place in the run up to it (and I am not sure the current GM is any good either). Hard to assess the coach when he's hamstrung like that. Having said all that, their D-line should be very good this season -- they'll slow some teams down. Just not ours. : )

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[quote=calia;1375227]I am all for Mara putting a halt to the roulette wheel of coaches, as long as the coach is lousy when to ball finds its slot. I don't really have a read on Daboll. He had the team over-performing a couple seasons ago, and he had a dreadful GM in place in the run up to it (and I am not sure the current GM is any good either). Hard to assess the coach when he's hamstrung like that. Having said all that, their D-line should be very good this season -- they'll slow some teams down. Just not ours. : )[/quote]Their dline is going to be a big problem week 1. Dexter Lawrence is a monster in the middle. The Carter rookie is very, very quick on the edge and has moves. They have some dudes. I'd honestly be more worried about this game if Dart starts. Think he has a lot of potential and talent, but I fully expect to see Wilson week 1.

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hopefully our history of losing to sorry @$$ giants teams is in the past now. good riddance.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375225]It is totally on Daboll to create a positive culture within his own team. Players calling out the team as soft and questioning the team's effort is an extraordinary indictment of a coach who isn't getting it done. Again, I don't care if the players like him or not. He has done nothing worthwhile in the NFL and is very fortunate to still be a head coach. Nearly impossible to believe a coach is well liked whose team is being called soft by it's own personnel, questioning fellow teammates effort in games, and losing faith in their coach while winning 3 games total in 1 season.[/quote]

Again, I get you will never be convinced but again what you posted isn't true.

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[quote=Giantone;1375256]Again, I get you will never be convinced but again what you posted isn't true.[/quote]

Links and quotes seem to show otherwise but those blue glasses you're wearing sure are fashionable!

best of luck week 1

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[quote=Meks;1375268]Links and quotes seem to show otherwise but those blue glasses you're wearing sure are fashionable!

best of luck week 1[/quote]

Same to your team, my hope is no injuries.

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Heading to the season opener; I say the 2 hottest seats are either with the Giants and Dolphins. The two most likely firings.

After that is Colts and Browns. Colts have new ownership with Irsay’s daughters inheriting the team. My guess, they clean house next year and bring their own people.


The Browns are a joke. Flacco isn’t taking them anywhere. Neither is Gabriel or Sanders . Browns will have 2 1’s in 2026 and likely will draft a qb. Haslam could decide 7 years would be enough with Stefanski.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1375886]Heading to the season opener; I say the 2 hottest seats are either with the Giants and Dolphins. The two most likely firings.

After that is Colts and Browns. Colts have new ownership with Irsay’s daughters inheriting the team. My guess, they clean house next year and bring their own people.


The Browns are a joke. Flacco isn’t taking them anywhere. Neither is Gabriel or Sanders . Browns will have 2 1’s in 2026 and likely will draft a qb. Haslam could decide 7 years would be enough with Stefanski.[/quote]

Schoen and Daboll are tied to Dart. He is their pick if the Giants win a few more then last year and play better in general they are both fine. Mara FU before firing a Coach and keeping his rookie franchise QB. The New GM and HC carousel had to stop. I agree about Miami others on the HS are Mike Tomlin, Matt LaFleur after the deal to get Parsons and his contract they better win, IMO even Kyle Shannahan is on shakey ground.

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[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2025/09/03/nfl-hot-seat-coaches-mike-mcdaniel-brian-daboll/85952137007/[/url]

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[quote=88Commanders00;1375916][url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2025/09/03/nfl-hot-seat-coaches-mike-mcdaniel-brian-daboll/85952137007/[/url][/quote]

LOL, ...............and? This guy also said Dabol was being fired last year how did that work out?

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Looks like Callahan is now the new favorite to be first coach fired.

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Aaron Glenn is the only winless coach after the Saints and Titans head coaches won yesterday. Aaron has made Jets history. He’s the first Jets coach to start 0-5.

Jets likely to have #1 pick. Could he be one and done? Jets will likely be drafting a qb to eventually start after Justin Fields. Maybe they will want a different head coach to develop their future qb?

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[quote=88Commanders00;1376645]Aaron Glenn is the only winless coach after the Saints and Titans head coaches won yesterday. Aaron has made Jets history. He’s the first Jets coach to start 0-5.

Jets likely to have #1 pick. Could he be one and done? Jets will likely be drafting a qb to eventually start after Justin Fields. Maybe they will want a different head coach to develop their future qb?[/quote]

Jets FO would be stupid to fire Glenn after this year..

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Jets had a very tough loss opening to Pittsburgh in a game they could have won. Since then, they have been terrible. Not sure if Glenn makes it to year 2 honestly. He was very heated in the Jets locker room recently over the team's frustrations.

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Jets ownership need to give Glenn and the FO time to rebuild the mess they made with Rodgers.