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illdefined 11-04-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;238648]This is really news to you? You didn't know he's been running the scout team the past couple of years?[/QUOTE]

sure i knew that was his usual squad, but i thought (hoped) he was at least getting some regular time with Moss and Cooley here and there. to say he's never done consecutive reps with them is utterly disheartening, because thats the only way to develop any kind of rhythm with an offense.

it's absolutely maddening that Gibbs has invested so much practice on this deadend of a QB Brunell. as if Brunell hasn't had enough time with this offense already, or the crispness and longevity to be training for a whole new offense at this point in his career.

dmek25 11-04-2006 11:32 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=Longtimefan;238647]Michael Wilbon's colum in the WashPost today echoed my sentiments exactly in reference to what I've been saying about Campbell. It appears such a waste this kid may not get to take a snap until his third season in the league, I don't know who we blame for it, but I think it's throughly disgusting.[/quote]
what will be said if campbell starts next year, sets the football world on fire, and the skins fly into the playoffs? man, that old joe gibbs knew what the hell he was doing:)

Longtimefan 11-04-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;238658]what will be said if campbell starts next year, sets the football world on fire, and the skins fly into the playoffs? man, that old joe gibbs knew what the hell he was doing:)[/QUOTE]



Wishful thinking, but we all know that is not likely to happen. However on the contrary that could be a distinct possibility providing he has an opportunity to get a head start on next year by getting some meaningful reps. this year. I don't think anyone here believes Campbell will [/quote] "set the world on fire" but I do think they want to see what we have in a young man that has been arguably deemed the future of the franchise. He dosen't have to start a game this year, but he should be given the opportunity to take some repetitions with the team under real game conditions if he's expected to lead this team sometime in the future. Therefore, anything less than that is a serious mistake IMO on the part of those who saw fit for him to be here, and be responsible for his continued development.

redskins5044 11-04-2006 12:53 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
lets say on brunells first drive tomorrow we go three and out. lets also say it was a 3rd and 8 and he dumps the ball off to a rb out of the backfield the crowd at fed-ex will be booing there guts out bottom line. we dont know what campbell has to offer us yet. i can understand gibbs thinking by not starting him to we are officaly out of contention but the fans dont want to see brunell play not to lose the game anymore this year it worked last year because we had a great defense and portis was running well. we are a different team this year

dmek25 11-04-2006 01:01 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=redskins5044;238663] we are a different team this year[/quote]
this is a very accurate statement that maybe some on our coaching staff do not understand. but i still believe we could be a running team if Al Saunders would stick with it. its almost like he has to get his finger prints all over this team. i personally only care about wins, not how they are achieved

onlydarksets 11-04-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=Longtimefan;238647]Michael Wilbon's colum in the WashPost today echoed my sentiments exactly in reference to what I've been saying about Campbell. It appears such a waste this kid may not get to take a snap until his third season in the league, I don't know who we blame for it, but I think it's throughly disgusting.[/quote]

His article is off in a couple of places, but it is very good. Worth a read:
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/03/AR2006110301608.html"]Michael Wilbon - If You Don't Play the Kid, How Do You Know He Can Play? - washingtonpost.com[/URL]

Actually, the only thing I would point out is that "Damon Huard, Rivers, Mark Brunell, Chad Pennington, Matt Hasselbeck and Brad Johnson" all backed up quarterbacks who are either HoF'ers (Moon and Favre), who were having great years or were established quality QBs (Green, Brees). The only exception is Pennington, who backed up Testeverde. Point being, even 1st/2nd year QBs on teams where there was no question who should be starting the game got a little playing time.

Longtimefan 11-04-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;238664]this is a very accurate statement that maybe some on our coaching staff do not understand. but i still believe we could be a running team if Al Saunders would stick with it. its almost like he has to get his finger prints all over this team. i personally only care about wins, not how they are achieved[/QUOTE]



I think in order for us to be a running team we have to be able to establish the run on first down, which so far this year we have been unable to do. It's easy to get away from the run when it's not productive on the early downs, and more so when your defense is constantly in retreat, and you're behind on the scoreboard. Further, on more than one ocasion Al Saunders has voiced his displeasure at Portis taking himself out of game when he has set up certain sequences in the running game that calls for him to be in the game. There could be a gap in communication between Portis and Saunders.

vaoutlaws2006 11-04-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
ready to play and actually playing are two different things. gibbs saying that doesnt mean sh*t. He will stay with brunell until his legs fall off.

offiss 11-04-2006 07:38 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;238658]what will be said if campbell starts next year, sets the football world on fire, and the skins fly into the playoffs? man, that old joe gibbs knew what the hell he was doing:)[/QUOTE]

What happens if he does it this year and we miss the playoffs because of the horrible start? Everyone will say Gibbs didn't know what he was doing, and his inability to identify it cost us a playoff berth.

If if and but's were candy and nut's we'd all have a wonderful christmas.

Crat92 11-04-2006 08:25 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=offiss;238696]What happens if he does it this year and we miss the playoffs because of the horrible start? Everyone will say Gibbs didn't know what he was doing, and his inability to identify it cost us a playoff berth.

If if and but's were candy and nut's we'd all have a wonderful christmas.[/quote]
If bullfrogs had glass asses they'd have wings too..........but they don't!

railcon56 11-04-2006 09:49 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=offiss;238629]You ain't kidding ILL, Gibbs is starting to remind me of mad scientist.:cheeky-sm[/quote]
Starting too?????

Jason72 11-04-2006 10:45 PM

Re: Joe Gibbs: "Campbell is ready to play"!
 
[quote=offiss;238696]What happens if he does it this year and we miss the playoffs because of the horrible start? Everyone will say Gibbs didn't know what he was doing, and his inability to identify it cost us a playoff berth.

If if and but's were candy and nut's we'd all have a wonderful christmas.[/quote]

In 1985 Joe Theisman was playing awful and we were losing. Of course Joe stuck with him anyways (Theisman even says Joe should have pulled him) until the infamous injury. Then Schroeder steps on the field and lights it up the rest of the year, just missing the playoffs at 10-6.

What I am saying is, this scenario has happened before. It's still a tough call because Campbell, like Schroeder, is a complete mystery as to what he will bring. He could light it up, or could fall on his face. If he crashed and burned because he isn't comfortable with this offense yet, then it could ruin him mentally.

I want to see Campbell as much as anybody, but I will trust Coach to pull that trigger when the time is right.


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