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[QUOTE=Schneed10;314920]Otherwise, what reason could possibly exist that would outweigh the embryo's nearly-assured future of a life full of freedom and happiness?[/QUOTE]

By that account every time someone masturbates they are denying at least one sperm a nearly-assured future of fertilizing an egg and a life full of freedom and happiness.

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[QUOTE=saden1;314975]When the mother decides? Personally, I'd like for a decision to be made within 4 months, 6 months max.[/QUOTE]

Why does the mom get to deicde when a child has formed? That child's "life" shouldn't be defined by any type of arbitrary human measurement. The mothers intiment involvement doesn't give her any greater knowledge of when a fertilized egg magically becomes a child than you or me.

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[QUOTE=saden1;314976]By that account every time someone masturbates they are denying at least one sperm a nearly-assured future of fertilizing an egg and a life full of freedom and happiness.[/QUOTE]

No because a sperm is not human life. It is nothing to the world. It is as important as a rock. Without an egg the sperm is nothing and vice versa. Together they are life.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;314980]Why does the mom get to deicde when a child has formed? That child's "life" shouldn't be defined by any type of arbitrary human measurement. The mothers intiment involvement doesn't give her any greater knowledge of when a fertilized egg magically becomes a child than you or me.[/QUOTE]

What gives you the right to define a fertilized egg as a child? An embryo as a child?

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[QUOTE=saden1;314983]What gives you the right to define a fertilized egg as a child? An embryo as a child?[/QUOTE]

Logic does.

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Kinda wild how we've had page after page of debate on abortion, yet only person voted it as an important issue.

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[quote=saden1;314976]By that account every time someone masturbates they are denying at least one sperm a nearly-assured future of fertilizing an egg and a life full of freedom and happiness.[/quote]

I'm arguing for nature taking it's course. When the sperm and egg have already met and become an embryo, nature's course would lead to the development and birth of a baby.

Nature also takes its course as I get an urge, grab my Hustler, and run to my private place. Masturbation is natural.

It's not our responsibility to make sure every sperm and every egg get together in this world. It's our responsibility to protect the ones that do get together. We have laws in our country, outlawing things like murder and rape, because we're interested in protecting lives. We don't have any laws that say we are mandated to procreate whenever possible.

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[quote=saden1;314983]What gives you the right to define a fertilized egg as a child? An embryo as a child?[/quote]

Because chances are, without interference, that embryo will develop into a healthy and happy human being.

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[quote=SmootSmack;314987]Kinda wild how we've had page after page of debate on abortion, yet only person voted it as an important issue.[/quote]

Yeah, abortion is a good topic to discuss because of the philosophical lines you have to draw to define what life is.

But when it comes down to voting, I'm all about foreign policy and the economy, because I'm more interested in protecting and preserving the lives and livelihood of the 300 million Americans who are already born, compared to the almost 1 million Americans who are aborted each year.

Abortion's a good one to discuss, but I gotta keep my priorities straight; when it comes to my vote I'm almost entirely voting on Iraq and the economy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;314987]Kinda wild how we've had page after page of debate on abortion, yet only person voted it as an important issue.[/quote]


That is funny, isn't it? I think we just like to argue, that's all.

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I voted for it :)

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I think it has been a lively debate. Civil(which is rare when talking about abortion) and relatively intellectual. What's funny is that I do not view abortion as a voting issue if only because it is so contentious. I know that a vote based on someone's abortion views is a wasted vote since I do not believe that there will ever be a satisfactory conclusion to the debate. I am big into constituents having a say and law-makers following the will of the people when it is appropriate. It is appropriate on social issues like abortion because we have all the info we need to make an informed decision. I am less inclined to have law-makers follow the people's will on more complex issues where we don't have a clear understanding of the issues. Like most foreign policy.

I have never voted based even slightly on abortion.

It is simply a subject to debate without regard to politics.