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I said Grimm. Maybe an old hog with a fresh approach is what we desperately need.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;387604]I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.

In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.

If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.[/quote]


Good post SGG! All the coachs on this board, I bet Dan could get one cheap.....? lol

I'm 100% behind Joe finishing up his 5 year deal.

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Joe Gibbs ............he won you 3 super bowls and is in the HOF ,what more do you want?


Besides Cowher is going to the Giants

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[QUOTE=Giantone;388413]Joe Gibbs ............he won you 3 super bowls and is in the HOF ,what more do you want?


Besides Cowher is going to the Giants[/QUOTE]

Exactly!! A smart person and he's not even a Redskins fan. Where's the loyalty for the man that made this team champions!! As far as I'm concerned Joe can coach till he decides to quit.

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This is actually my first post, so take it easy on me here. I think we all want to win now but has any thought been put into taking a younger coach and developing him like the Steelers' do? Through thick and thin, winning and loosing the organization stuck behind Cowher, anyone remember Kordell Stewart? Maybe someone like a Pete Carroll or Norm Chow? Someone who will bring some excitement and swagger back to DC and modernize the playbook!

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I hope Gibbs is coach for another 5 years. Injuries have killed us this year. I wish we could see what this team could do if health for a hole season. I Gibbs did leave me thin Williams deserves a shot. I just hope he does better the Rich Pedibon did after Gibbs retired the first time.

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Well, assuming Joe didn't come back for season 5, I have no idea who I would want as Head Coach. Honestly, I'm just tired of the head coaching experiements. Cowher seems to be the sought after guy. Gregg Williams is a popular choice, because he's firey and he's already here in Washington. Russ Grimm is also a popular choice because of the Redskins nostolgic influence. I have to look at this from a logical perspective. Gregg Williams has already been unsuccessful as a head coach. It took Cowher years to finally win a Super Bowl, although he hardly ever coached a losing season. Russ Grimm has yet to be head coach, so he's an unknown. I'd personally go with Russ Grimm.

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[quote=21InOurHearts;388440]This is actually my first post, so take it easy on me here. I think we all want to win now but has any thought been put into taking a younger coach and developing him like the Steelers' do? Through thick and thin, winning and loosing the organization stuck behind Cowher, anyone remember Kordell Stewart? Maybe someone like a Pete Carroll or Norm Chow? Someone who will bring some excitement and swagger back to DC and modernize the playbook![/quote]

I like this line of thinking. Bring in someone with some fairly recent college coaching credentials, but also coming from an NFL coaching pedigree. I haven't researched a list of possible candidates, which I know everyone wants but I'll work on it....later.

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[QUOTE=21InOurHearts;388440]This is actually my first post, so take it easy on me here. I think we all want to win now but has any thought been put into taking a younger coach and developing him like the Steelers' do? Through thick and thin, winning and loosing the organization stuck behind Cowher, anyone remember Kordell Stewart? Maybe someone like a Pete Carroll or Norm Chow? Someone who will bring some excitement and swagger back to DC and modernize the playbook![/QUOTE]

Welcome. But don't you think Saunders' playbook is pretty modern. We've been running a lot of trick plays and have been pretty pass-happy these past few weeks. Unfortunately, the line isn't blocking, the players at the skill positions aren't executing, and JC is playing well but is making mistakes at critical times.

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[QUOTE=21InOurHearts;388440]This is actually my first post, so take it easy on me here. I think we all want to win now but has any thought been put into taking a younger coach and developing him like the Steelers' do? Through thick and thin, winning and loosing the organization stuck behind Cowher, anyone remember Kordell Stewart? Maybe someone like a Pete Carroll or Norm Chow? Someone who will bring some excitement and swagger back to DC and modernize the playbook![/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board. I just don't think we have the patience for what the Steelers have done. We don't have it for a HOF coach, I doubt we'd have it for an up and comer.

I would like to see someone (Byner maybe?) move up to a more prominent role on the staff though

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Thanks for the welcome. I have had season tickets for 6 years now, I have driven from Radford,Virginia, Harrisonburg, VA, Newport News, Virginia and now live in the area. I just want to see this team get it right. I think they had it right with Gibbs, he has set a good foundation we just need a good project manager to come in and finish the job. Maybe that is a Cowher, I just want my friends to look at me and say damn he is lucky to be a Redskins fan!

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;388462]Welcome. But don't you think Saunders' playbook is pretty modern. We've been running a lot of trick plays and have been pretty pass-happy these past few weeks. Unfortunately, the line isn't blocking, the players at the skill positions aren't executing, and JC is playing well but is making mistakes at critical times.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, Saunder playbook is modern, but we need someone to who is able to fully utilize that playbook and understand it. I think Gibbs and Saunders have problems relating in situations because their philosophies are soooo very different. I would not have even minded and end around to Moss on that third and 8 yesterday. I say Gibbs goes to President, Williams and Saunders stay where they are and bring in Bud Foster haha, he will have to listen to the other 2 on basic seniority principles!

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[quote=21InOurHearts;388440]This is actually my first post, so take it easy on me here. I think we all want to win now but has any thought been put into taking a younger coach and developing him like the Steelers' do? Through thick and thin, winning and loosing the organization stuck behind Cowher, anyone remember Kordell Stewart? Maybe someone like a Pete Carroll or Norm Chow? Someone who will bring some excitement and swagger back to DC and modernize the playbook![/quote]

Welcome. I like your sig.

Fortunately if Cowher did come here, Jason Campbell is no Kordell Stewart. He's actually quite a bit similar to Roethlisberger...

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Cowher just strikes me as the kind of typical Skins move that would be predestined to fail. The media would be all over us before he walked through the door, the expectations would be unrealistic from the outset, we'd lose a couple close ones and then the wheels would come off. Cue the media-mocking and local talk radio venom. Seen this movie before.

The problem I have with Williams is that in Buffalo, not only was he unsuccessful, but his team ended up quitting on him. He lost them. It's one thing to fail but have players sticking up for you, saying don't blame coach blame us for not making the plays (which is not that unusual on losing teams). That wasn't the case in Buffalo. That being said he seems to be pretty respected in the Skins locker room with the players so who knows.

But I voted for Grimm. That's what we haven't tried yet during the Snyder era, hiring an up and coming coordinator who is hungry and innovative and ready to put in the work. Grimm makes the most sense because of his ties to the organization but there's a lot of starving coordinators out there we could take a look at.

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I like Grimm. But I don't think of him as innovative per se.