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thats because it probably wasnt news on fox( haha)

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If health care is so important to help lead us out of this economy and so good for everyone why does it take 4 years before the plan would go into effect?

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Man things are getting pretty bad when they need Jimmy Carter to jump in and start playing the race card for Obama. The Dems are doing a fine job of turning people against them on their own now.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfzMLS_-NU"]YouTube - Jimmy Carter Obama criticism racist[/URL]

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[quote=Schneed10;586536]God I really hate when you guys descend into a bipartisan back-and-forth divided right down party lines. These discussions have become such drivel.

Political talk on the Warpath was good for a while, but sadly nobody wants to analyze the issues or present ideas anymore. I don't think it's worthwhile for me to try to add to the discussion anymore.[/quote]


Thanks for the posts Schneed. It's good to get some info from someone who can clearly define the issues. There shouldn't be a political agenda involved in this issue (or any issue) but unfortunately it's inevitable.

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first, what does Carter have to do with health care?

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[quote=dmek25;590135]first, what does Carter have to do with health care?[/quote]
I was not going to start a thread about JC just wanted to post what he said either today or yesterday about people who disagree with Obama's health care plan.

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i have ask before, so ill try again. what do you propose we do about health care?

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[quote=dmek25;590160]i have ask before, so ill try again. what do you propose we do about health care?[/quote]

Why is it that some people think that a lack of alternative ideas necessarily disqualifies someone from being allowed to disagree? Aren't those two notions mutually exclusive? I mean I can tell you it's a bad idea to use plexiglas for the windshield of the space shuttle but I don't have a clue what they really use. I know you may not be getting at the whole "don't talk unless you have solutions" argument but you're wandering down that road with that question and I have definitely seen that argument around here more than once.

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i was just wondering if we are in agreement that something needs to be done... people that disagree just for the sake of disagreeing are a different story.

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[quote=dmek25;590194]i was just wondering if we are in agreement that something needs to be done... people that disagree just for the sake of disagreeing are a different story.[/quote]

I totally agree that something needs to be done but I perfer to start with fixing the private market and if that cannot be done then maybe look toward goverment plan or some type of single payer system. The problem with starting with a goverment plan if it fails from the begining or anytime for that matter they will not scrap the plan and will just keep dumping more money into and expanding it more and more.

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I don't know who to root for anymore. On one hand the Republicans are helping me keep the timely, top notch health care that I depend on. To demonstrate 3 of my last 5 surgeries were scheduled a week in advance. Another was scheduled for when my blood count was expected to go back to normal and the other was arranged to be right after the school year ended. It takes people in other countries 6 month to get an MRI scheduled. For me it takes a day, sometimes the same day.

However at the same time I realize the republican base is full of idiots. For example I was listening to Hannity on the radio and some guy called in talking about how the democrats are going to regret the way they're treating the Republican party in 2012 when Joe Wilson is speaker of the house and Sarah Palin is president. My goodness didn't you learn from Bush to stay away from these types of people or are you just a gluten for punishment?

Then I tune into C-Span and see a Republican convention type deal and who should show up but Ms. South Carolina herself talking about how God has a plan for her. Ironically she looked like she had just came from the infamous beauty pageant crying.

Why do these people have to be paraded around on stage? Can't you send in a check and just stay home looking pretty while talking about the plagues God will bring upon the gays? Look here's an idea stay in the closet and don't come out.

So now it's between the incompetent republicans and the overtaxing, hands on mother-in-law party also known as the Democrats. If only every country could be so lucky. Of course when I put it that way maybe I can look and say that things aren't so bad after all.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;591238]I don't know who to root for anymore. On one hand the Republicans are helping me keep the timely, top notch health care that I depend on. To demonstrate 3 of my last 5 surgeries were scheduled a week in advance. Another was scheduled for when my blood count was expected to go back to normal and the other was arranged to be right after the school year ended. It takes people in other countries 6 month to get an MRI scheduled. For me it takes a day, sometimes the same day.

[B]However at the same time I realize the republican base is full of idiots. [/B]For example I was listening to Hannity on the radio and some guy called in talking about how the democrats are going to regret the way they're treating the Republican party in 2012 when Joe Wilson is speaker of the house and Sarah Palin is president. My goodness didn't you learn from Bush to stay away from these types of people or are you just a gluten for punishment?

Then I tune into C-Span and see a Republican convention type deal and who should show up but Ms. South Carolina herself talking about how God has a plan for her. Ironically she looked like she had just came from the infamous beauty pageant crying.

Why do these people have to be paraded around on stage? [B]Can't you send in a check and just stay home looking pretty while talking about the plagues God will bring upon the gays?[/B] Look here's an idea stay in the closet and don't come out.

So now it's between the incompetent republicans and the overtaxing, hands on mother-in-law party also known as the Democrats. If only every country could be so lucky. Of course when I put it that way maybe I can look and say that things aren't so bad after all.[/quote]

Yep -- you and I are on the same page here. If the Republicans could ditch the looney, bible-thumping evangelical zealots they'd be okay with me.

Republicans: Drop your obsession with homosexuality, admit that the anti-abortion crusade is lost, and give up the self-appointed role of police chief of the planet earth. Do these things and you'll start winning elections again.

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[quote=Beemnseven;591318]Yep -- you and I are on the same page here. If the Republicans could ditch the looney, bible-thumping evangelical zealots they'd be okay with me.

Republicans: Drop your obsession with homosexuality, admit that the anti-abortion crusade is lost, and give up the self-appointed role of police chief of the planet earth. Do these things and you'll start winning elections again.[/quote]

Amen. The base allows themselves to get distracted from the issues that really matter.

How you can view gay marriage as more important than wars or finding jobs for the 9% of citizens who are unemployed is beyond me. Actual lives and livelihoods are a lot more important than whether a gay dude can get married or whether he has to just live together with his life partner.

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[quote=Schneed10;591329]Amen. The base allows themselves to get distracted from the issues that really matter.

How you can view gay marriage as more important than wars or finding jobs for the 9% of citizens who are unemployed is beyond me. Actual lives and livelihoods are a lot more important than whether a gay dude can get married or whether he has to just live together with his life partner.[/quote]

I thought that trillion dollars that Obama got to fix things was going to take care of unemployment and so much other stuff. Maybe he just waisted that trillion dollars like all the other money Washington waist. I do think Acorn got some of that money so they probably helped keep the unemployment down by putting more hooker's on the streets.

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[quote=Beemnseven;591318]Yep -- you and I are on the same page here. If the Republicans could ditch the looney, bible-thumping evangelical zealots they'd be okay with me.

Republicans: Drop your obsession with homosexuality, admit that the anti-abortion crusade is lost, and give up the self-appointed role of police chief of the planet earth. Do these things and you'll start winning elections again.[/quote]

Ding ding ding...

Almost...articles like this make me laugh at the Pubs
[url=http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090920/D9AQQ25G0.html]My Way News - Romney taunts Democrats with memories of Carter[/url]
They act like they aren't just as responsible for the over-spending.