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warriorzpath 12-27-2009 10:39 AM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
All the complaints and drama going on with Haynesworth is justified. He is voicing the frustration of the players with what's going on with the team. Hell.. he's voicing the fans' frustration too.

It all started with Zorn and with the lack of leadership. Blache is too conservative in his schemes, but he got my respect earlier in the season by accepting the responsibility of the failures of the team. At least he wasn't hiding behind excuses. The major flaw of Blache is that he's too stubborn with the way he coaches. He won't accept that his schemes and gameplanning sometimes don't work. But there's a lack of discipline and instinct in the secondary -- that also has alot to do with the defensive failures lately.

TheSmurfs22 12-27-2009 11:38 AM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
This latest and greatest report is just further proof in my mind that we are a very dysfunctional organization right now.

rbanerjee23 12-27-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
Frankly, I love it...who do you think Snyder is going to listen to? the player or the coaches, keep in mind that Albert makes more than probably the entire coaching staff.

Paintrain 12-27-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
One of the biggest mistakes coaches make is being stubborn and not adjusting to the strengths of the talent they're given. I think Zorn was especially guilty of this with Campbell, hence the dramatic improvement in production once Lewis took over the playcalling but back on topic, Blache did this with Taylor in '08 and now Haynesworth in '10. It's almost like he'd rather have a bunch of nobodies that he can tell what to do rather than adjust his scheme suited to his talented players.

53Fan 12-27-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
[quote=Paintrain;646063]One of the biggest mistakes coaches make is being stubborn and not adjusting to the strengths of the talent they're given. I think Zorn was especially guilty of this with Campbell, hence the dramatic improvement in production once Lewis took over the playcalling but back on topic, Blache did this with Taylor in '08 and now Haynesworth in '10. [B] It's almost like he'd rather have a bunch of nobodies that he can tell what to do rather than adjust his scheme suited to his talented players[/B].[/quote]

Exactly! I don't know why you'd even bother to get a passrusher in his scheme. He wants his linemen to play the run and his DB's to make a s**tload of reads and cover like he has a bunch of Champ Baileys back there. He doesn't even disguise blitzes very well. He was getting the same reaction from Chicago fans during his time there.

Lotus 12-27-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
I think Phat Al tried to be a good guy by keeping his mouth shut but finally his frustration boiled over. I think he is publicly lobbying now for a new DC who will let him be free. I also think that his criticisms are spot on.

rbanerjee23 12-27-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
One thing I want to bring notice to is the fact that despite having one of the league's best defenses, don't you guys feel as if they give up a lot of big plays and don't show up when it matters most? I've lost track of the times when the defense has really needed to have a stop and been run over...in my opinion, the finger of blame falls squarely on the coaching and I'll be happy to see Blache gone

SolidSnake84 12-27-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
I just have an honest question for you guys. Given that Portis earlier this year was guilty of the same stuff (badmouthing coaches, people, etc...) why was no discipline issued to him? Now i know he would have gotten injured anyway, but he did this stuff all the time and nobody ever touched him....whY?

DynamiteRave 12-27-2009 05:21 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;646128]I just have an honest question for you guys. Given that Portis earlier this year was guilty of the same stuff (badmouthing coaches, people, etc...) why was no discipline issued to him? Now i know he would have gotten injured anyway, but he did this stuff all the time and nobody ever touched him....whY?[/quote]

Portis wasn't disciplined because all he did was badmouth players. Haynesworth was allegedly disciplined because he showed up late. I guess if you show up on time you can talk as much trash as you want. :)

Redskin Warrior 12-27-2009 05:29 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
Phat Al spoke his mind at the right time if you ask me. He is saying you brought me over to be the dominant player i was in Tenn so let me be me. This is a message to the owner, GM, current coaching staff, future coaching staff, players & peers. I LOVE IT!!!

rbanerjee23 12-27-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
Albert upset the coaches and I think we are seeing a little of Zorn's ugly side right now considering how far south he has taken this team

CRedskinsRule 12-27-2009 06:06 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;646133]Albert upset the coaches and I think we are seeing a little of Zorn's ugly side right now considering how far south he has taken this team[/quote]

I agree about Zorns ugly side, I also think the best possible case in this is SS's comment about Bruce Allen. I can accept AH's complaints, but if BA is trying to change the culture that would be a huge positive, especially if it includes the 100million dollar man, would send a sign that a new sherriff is in town, and no one is exempt. The worst case is if Zorn honestly felt this was his Bill Belicheck Randy Moss moment. But this staff is gone, so I really can't worry about that.

Defensewins 12-27-2009 06:15 PM

Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 
[quote=Lotus;646070]I think Phat Al tried to be a good guy by keeping his mouth shut but finally his frustration boiled over. I think he is publicly lobbying now for a new DC who will let him be free. I also think that his criticisms are spot on.[/quote]

Great post. You are right.
With the type of players we now have on defense, Orakpo, Haynesworth, etc. we need an attacking defensive system. GM Allen needs to be careful who he brings in to be DC.
A bit off topic, but we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs a month ago. Why are the young guys not playing more? Jeremy Jarmon, Kevin Barnes, Marko Mitchell, Lendy Holmes, Edwin Williams, Robert Henson, etc.
Where are they and why are they not on the field? It is time to stop protecting these rookies and see what they have. Seeing someone like Phillip Daniels play at this point is a waste.

tryfuhl 12-27-2009 06:46 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
I guess it took AH to do this for it to be okay.. every other player of ours that did it had "bad character" and whatnot in most fans' eyes

doughtydoubter 12-27-2009 06:59 PM

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 
phat al did the right thing..im sorry we have some serious problems with our schemes...if he is to be our marquee player with rakpo as his deputy we have to play towards their strengths


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