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SBXVII 12-28-2009 08:52 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;647143]I think he keeps 5 guys on Offense and 7 on Defense...

1. Dockery
2. Devin Thomas
3. Fred Davis
4. M. Mitchell
[B]5. C.Rabach[/B]

1.London Fletcher
2. AH
3. Orakpo
4. Hall
5. McIntosh
6. Horton
7. Landry (MAYBE)[/quote]

Trust me we'll keep more then 10 players. Rabach? You'd keep Rabach or you think they will keep Rabach? In either case he sucks. Why do you think Baltimore let him go. He's actually small for a Center and gets bowled over by big good players.

skinsfaninok 12-28-2009 09:02 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
^ rabach for depth plus he's not that bad. All I'm saying Is that we won't be bringing alot of players back. Shanny will rebuild completely

53Fan 12-28-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=budw38;647136]No , I would not go WR - TE . What I'am saying is this , I would pick a HOF type RB or DL as opposed to a Tackle that I believed was an above average T . I would 1st , bring in 2-3 OL in F/A , then I would not have to use " all of my pics " on one position .[B] I will put it this way , if in rd 2 I have to choose between D.Dockery and B. Sanders ... I draft Sanders[/B] .[/quote]

Good point Bud. I would imagine we'll get some FA's in here. I just don't know if any really good ones will be available. Then again, it wouldn't take much to be better than what we have.

SBXVII 12-28-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=RMSkins;647154][B]You don't just take an o-lineman for the mere fact that we need one.[/B] You have to make sure it's a quality pick for where you're drafting and not reaching for a player just because he's an o-lineman.[/quote]

But...you don't just pick up the #1 at any position either. Basically what I'm getting at is Shanahan and whoever he brings in as OL coach (hopefully A.Gibbs) will look at all the offensive lineman coming out of the draft and decide which ones would work best in their blocking scheme. Whoever that is might not even be the #1 or #2 in the draft cause the #1 or #2 might not be best for the scheme but the # 4 might be.

It's nice to think about getting the #1 OL or just picking a different position if we can't get the #1 but don't get mad if they pick up someone else cause they know what type of player fits their system.

GusFrerotte 12-28-2009 09:15 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
It is all about scouting for your system. Zorn was screwed almost from the get go with leftovers from the Gibbs' system that obviously didn't work well in the WCO. Have to build a system with what you have to work with talent wise. For Shanny to be a success you have to blow the whol enchilada up and start from scratch.

SBXVII 12-28-2009 09:16 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=budw38;647161]I never said we were 1-2 picks from a SB , nor did I say we're close to a SB . I just hope we bring in some F/A OL so we can keep our qb alive next year .... Allen can cut most of the " stars " on 1-4-2010 for all I care ... I do not lose sleep over the Skins or any other team .[/quote]

Sorry dude, misread you. Thought you were saying we were 1 or 2 yrs away from being a good team and that we might just need a couple of players.

budw38 12-28-2009 11:16 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=SBXVII;647172]Sorry dude, misread you. Thought you were saying we were 1 or 2 yrs away from being a good team and that we might just need a couple of players.[/quote]
I wish , anything is possible . I would like to see a solid foundation , hard core team first guys ... Monte Coleman , D. Grant , Dexter, C. Mann , Green and Monk ... oh and a " Hogs part 2 " .

budw38 12-28-2009 11:18 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=53Fan;647168]Good point Bud. I would imagine we'll get some FA's in here. I just don't know if any really good ones will be available. Then again, it wouldn't take much to be better than what we have.[/quote]
As long as they drop that win today thinking ... build a solid / strong stable foundation 1st .

sandtrapjack 12-29-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
In my opinion, one of the tangibles that made Shannahan and the Broncos so good with Elway is the Broncos organization dedicated over 25% of thier TOTAL CAP to just the offensive line. This provded quality talent up front.

You could put your grandmother behind that line and she would get 1200 yards a season.

dmek25 12-29-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
sand, nice to have you back. where were you after the giants loss?

sandtrapjack 12-29-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=dmek25;647280]sand, nice to have you back. where were you after the giants loss?[/quote]
I was out of the country on business. I actually missed the Giants, Chargers and Saints game.

Made it back in time for Christmas with the family and to see the Cowboys-Redskins though.

SmootSmack 12-29-2009 12:10 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
Upon further review, laying the smackdown on our running backs. We really really miss Clinton Portis. We've got a bunch of matadors in the backfield now. No one blocks like CP

FRPLG 12-29-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;647340]Upon further review, laying the smackdown on our running backs. We really really miss Clinton Portis. We've got a bunch of matadors in the backfield now. No one blocks like CP[/quote]

The problem is that it's the only thing he does well at this point. He lacks speed, vision, agility and durability to be an every down back in the NFL anymore. At least on a team that relies on a heavy dose of running the ball.

12thMan 12-29-2009 01:14 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
The problem with Cartwright, Mason, and Ganther is that they're all the same guy.

Son Of Man 12-29-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)
 
[quote=Mattyk;646876]You simply can't reach for a guy based on need, that's not a sound draft strategy. In no particular order I would like to see us grab a QB, RB, and OT with our first 3 picks.[/quote]

Can't argue with that! Reaching for any player/position is never good. Seems the're aren't any marquis LT prospects in the top of the draft (Okung isn't Ogden or even Samules when they came out). Hopefully our new GM can trade down slightly and get another pick in the first 2-3 rounds in the process. I would prefer to avoid Clausen (notre dame) and Bradford (can't take a hit).


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