re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=freddyg12;725889]What's the impact of going on IR? I know he can't play all year, but what does the team owe him? base salary is about all he's got on his contract. He's not making a ton of $.

I think IR would be good for him. Give him a year to think about it, get himself healthy & develop a routine for stretching & workouts.

Anything I'm missing? I just don't see what the team stands to lose putting him on IR, assuming he meets the criteria by league rules.

If not IR, I say keep him before galloway.[/quote]

I was with you until the last line. I don't see how there is any downside to putting him on IR, if his condition warrants it (I think the NFL requires some proof of physical injury, and his seems very unprovable).

But keep him before Galloway? that's crazy, Galloway:
a) is physically capable of playing!
b) was able to get separation from the Jets corners, so I think he will be ok against others in the league.
c) is a solid consistent, if not outstanding, receiver

If they don't IR Kelly, then the only spot he could take is Banks/Austin if they try to PS both of them (which I doubt) otherwise see ya!

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

Cut him, keep Moss, Armstrong, Galloway, Thomas, Banks.
Run 2TE sets with Cooley and Davis and we only need 5 WRs anyway. I keep trying to figure out why we want to keep 6 WRs with 2 great TEs on our team. I also see Portis catching more passes than he ever has in a single year, this year.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

Yeah keeping a gimpy Kelly over Galloway makes zero sense.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;725918]I was with you until the last line. I don't see how there is any downside to putting him on IR, if his condition warrants it (I think the NFL requires some proof of physical injury, and his seems very unprovable).

[B]But keep him before Galloway? that's crazy, Galloway:
a) is physically capable of playing!
b) was able to get separation from the Jets corners, so I think he will be ok against others in the league.
c) is a solid consistent, if not outstanding, receiver[/B]

If they don't IR Kelly, then the only spot he could take is Banks/Austin if they try to PS both of them (which I doubt) otherwise see ya![/quote]

I could not agree more. Keeping players based only on potential is what got us in the mess that is the Redskins 2000-2009. Moron Cerratto and not moron but unqualified GM Dan Snyder basically GAVE roster spots to undeserving draft picks like Durant Brooks even though they were clearly beat out on the practice field and on the preseason playing field. What is the point of having competition, training camp and then preseason if you do not judge and then select the best players based on performance on the field.

I think it is more than proven that the Al Davis system of falling in love with numbers like 6'4" and running a 40 in 4.3 is not a good way to pick football players. It is one small measure, but it should not be the main standard. I never agreed with us taking Kelly and Thomas just because they were tall and the rest of our WR's were short and that some how created a need. We had a need for great WR's regardless of their height. We won two SB with smurfs and our only tall WR Art Monk on IR.
Give me great football players that will do well in the NFL. I don't care how tall they are or how many push up they can do.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly/team-has-few-options-with-malc.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Team has few options with Malcolm Kelly[/url]

I think our only option now is to IR him. I wouldn't cut him, but we can't have him wasting a roster spot.


It's apparently serious:
[url=http://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/statuses/22542160154]Twitter / Rich Campbell: Shanahan: Kelly aggravated ...[/url]

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=Buster;725942][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly/team-has-few-options-with-malc.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Team has few options with Malcolm Kelly[/url]

I think our only option now is to IR him. I wouldn't cut him, but we can't have him wasting a roster spot.


It's apparently serious:
[url=http://twitter.com/Rich_Campbell/statuses/22542160154]Twitter / Rich Campbell: Shanahan: Kelly aggravated ...[/url][/quote]

I agree. For a player with so much potential, there is little reason to outright cut him instead of just IRing him. Let him come back next year and compete for a roster spot, but don't count on him to be a part of the team when making decisions in the draft and free agency.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=Mattyk;725929]Yeah keeping a gimpy Kelly over Galloway makes zero sense.[/quote]

If he's gimpy all year, yes. But if he's gimpy for a few games?

Kelly is what, 23? Galloway is 39! Granted he looked good against the jets, not sure how much can he be counted on as the year goes on. I think the smart choice would be to IR if feasible.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=freddyg12;725961]If he's gimpy all year, yes. But if he's gimpy for a few games?

Kelly is what, 23? Galloway is 39! Granted he looked good against the jets, not sure how much can he be counted on as the year goes on. I think the smart choice would be to IR if feasible.[/quote]

He's barely been able to get on the practice field for the past month, and he now has what's being called a "significant pull". What makes you think he's just going to magically heal up in a few weeks? At best he probably needs a few months to heal up. So [I]maybe[/I] he can begin to practice sometime near the halfway mark of the season. Even then he's no sure bet given his history. Hard to justify having him sitting on the bench taking up a valuable roster spot.

Give me Galloway who's ready and able to contribute, right now. I would probably cut Kelly. Enough is enough.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

I know it was asked before, but is there a limited number of spots on IR?

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=Mattyk;725962]He's barely been able to get on the practice field for the past month, and he now has what's being called a "significant pull". What makes you think he's just going to magically heal up in a few weeks? At best he probably needs a few months to heal up. So [I]maybe[/I] he can begin to practice sometime near the halfway mark of the season. Even then he's no sure bet given his history. Hard to justify having him sitting on the bench taking up a valuable roster spot.

Give me Galloway who's ready and able to contribute, right now. I would probably cut Kelly. Enough is enough.[/quote]

This is something that is going to give him problems his entire career or if he ever gets a career started. Everything I have read and learned about Hamstring injures is if you have a significant tear or pull, you are more likely to have many more in the future. It sounds like this is the situation he has now. It is going to be a chronic situation for him. Get rid of him.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;725964]I know it was asked before, but is there a limited number of spots on IR?[/quote]

no there isn't

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

Thanks

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

Last year I was really hoping that Thomas and Kelly could push Moss to the slot at some time during the season. This year, I wouldn't be surprised if both were cut. (I think Thomas makes the team) I've been really disappointed in these two and I was hoping for a lot out of each of them. Kelly seemed more polish, but that guy must be made of glass. I say IR him and see if he can make the team next camp, if not, screw it, he can't stay healthy.

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

[quote=jdlea;725974]Last year I was really hoping that Thomas and Kelly could push Moss to the slot at some time during the season. This year, I wouldn't be surprised if both were cut. (I think Thomas makes the team) I've been really disappointed in these two and I was hoping for a lot out of each of them. Kelly seemed more polish, but that guy must be made of glass. I say IR him and see if he can make the team next camp, if not, screw it, he can't stay healthy.[/quote]

Seems like only yesterday many of us were ready to push Moss, Portis, and Rogers aside and move on without them...and now they're back to being integral parts of the team

re: Update: Malcolm Kelly To Be Placed On IR
 

I was ready to dump Carlos, but not the other two. I love those two, Carlos has gotten a little better however unless he can stop getting beat on those double moves then he should get the boot.

I say keep Kelly, but it just sucks that he's gonna have to go to IR. Wish he could be on the roster sometime this season but hey, gotta do what you have to do. He'll be here next year along with DT.