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[quote=DCtoAZ;902268]You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.[/quote]

Roger Goddell doesn't understand football. It's obvious that he just doesn't have a clue.

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For the people who think the punishment is too harsh? What do you propose would be a better punishment?

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[quote=DynamiteRave;902336]For the people who think the punishment is too harsh? What do you propose would be a better punishment?[/quote]

I thought Williams should've gotten 6 games and Payton 2. The GM should've gotten 1 or 2. That's it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;902333]Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? The owners need to step in here and get this clown under control. It's like Goddell thinks he freakin' God or something... like he's trying too hard to prove that he's some kind of tough guy, with his fines, suspensions, can't hit wr's, QB's and what not. Enough already.[/quote]

Last time the owners stepped in we lost $36 million in cap space.

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I definitely think the Saints should have been punished but a year without their Payton- OUCH!

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Gregg Williams got what he deserved. Sean Peyton was very dishonest and was very fortunate that his suspension was for only one year. It disgraces him as a head coach. Whatever players were involved they should have been punished as well.

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Well, Warren Sapp called out Jeremy Shockey as the whistleblower behind this whole thing.

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Warren-Sapp-Jeremy-Shockey-Bountygate-New-Orleans-Saints-snitch-032112]Warren Sapp claims Jeremy Shockey 'snitch' in Bountygate - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;902365]Well, Warren Sapp called out Jeremy Shockey as the whistleblower behind this whole thing.

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Warren-Sapp-Jeremy-Shockey-Bountygate-New-Orleans-Saints-snitch-032112]Warren Sapp claims Jeremy Shockey 'snitch' in Bountygate - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url][/quote]

I saw that on NFL network, It's incredible that Sapp would out someone. I have a feeling Shockey's career will end this year...

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Some are saying Sapp is wrong.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;902058]don't be so quick to think we dodged a bullet. Goodell said that when he considers Williams' eventual request for reinstatement, he'll consider how cooperative Williams is in [I]future investigations.[/I] This can only mean the league is going to look into bounty systems at Williams' former teams. obviously, Shanahan and Allen cant be suspended as they weren't here, but draft pick penalties could be coming our way.

Perhaps well agree to allow the NFL to screw us over with the cap if they promise not to screw us over with bountygate.[/quote]

Had not thought of it this way - - but there is a sinister logic at the core of your reasoning here...

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I wonder what the bounty in the NFL front office was for taking out a whole franchise?

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[quote=skinsguy;902059]Roger Goodell is definitely going to go down as one of the harshest Commissioners in NFL history. The era in which the players become robots, and the game becomes flag football.[/quote]

Interesting rhetoric - - but answer this:

[INDENT]Are you and most of your friends ceasing to follow the NFL as it becomes flag football with robots as the participants?[/INDENT]
If not, then the NFL and Roger Goodell - - as the commish and overseer of the NFL brand - - don't really care about your rhetoric.

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on many other levels in many other avenues, these people would have been fired and faced possible legal action. i don't think it's too harsh. goodell don't play no games

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[quote=DCtoAZ;902268]You really think that is deserved ?? You gotta be getting me man .. this is football ... 99% of the NFL players don't think this is deserved .. this is by far the most BS move the God-dell has ever done ... the fact that SpyGate didn't get the hoodie suspended and this blows a team away for a YEAR .. holy s**T man this is so over the top considering every single team does this is some way form or fashion ... I bet when GW was here and Area51 was laying down beatdowns you probably said, yeah you know what this is too much I hope they get the hammer laid down on them .. boo hoo on these hits .. give me a break dude ... football is heading down a real weird path if we keep putting skirts on these guys .. that's why tackling sucks and defenses get smoked .. I'm sorry but I love a good ass mammoth hit on a QB .. I feel bad for the Saints ... I also feel for the Skins/Boys with this Salary Cap BS .. the Shield is out of control with power.[/quote]


Can you cite the survey that shows 99% of the players think this is wrong? Chris Kluwe's Twitter feed says he agrees with it. Are there 98 other Twitter feeds from players who say this is nonsense - - in addition to Drew Brees?

Comparing this to Spygate is interesting but it is apples and oranges. No one was injured based on Spygate. AND, Belichick and the Pats never lied to the league about what they were doing or had done. Their argument was that their actions obeyed the letter of the rule if not the spirit of the rule. The Saints were warned multiple times about this; they lied about its existence; then they did nothing to stop it.

With regard to your ranting over the "pussification" of pro football, the NFL will not even begin to care until it sees revenues decrease significantly over a period of time. Until then, the trend is for more player safety - - even though you don't like it. Given that you don't like it, the NFL is telling you very politely to take your sports interests elsewhere. They are betting that you are not going to do that; they are betting that after you post your screed here and on a few other message boards, you will continue to tune into games, buy official team logo "stuff" and attend a game or two when you can. Only you can prove them wrong...

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[quote=skinsfan69;902333]Mr. Commish needs to really have some of his power stripped away. The guy is an idiot. What the Saints did was wrong. But you're going to take away peoples way of making a living? For something that's been going on since the start of football? Really? The owners need to step in here and get this clown under control. It's like Goddell thinks he freakin' God or something... like he's trying too hard to prove that he's some kind of tough guy, with his fines, suspensions, can't hit wr's, QB's and what not. Enough already.[/quote]

If you think that the Management Council - - made up of owners - - did not know how all this was proceeding and what was coming down BEFORE it hit the wires, you are living in a delusion. They knew and they approved - - tacitly.