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[quote=Bucket;1072447]Making a call right now.

If Orakpo gets hurt this year. He will NEVER win his job back from Murphy. The guy is going to be great. I don't make predictions very often, but this is one I will make.[/quote]

reportedly Murphy played well in mini-camp

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[quote=skinsfan69;1072393]Maybe not this year. But in the 2nd and 3rd years? Absolutely. I think ILB is a weakness and was one of the reasons the defense stunk.[/quote]

A 7th round pick? Really?

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Off topic but I really liked Cleveland's draft, they will surprise some folks next season

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1072453]Off topic but I really liked Cleveland's draft, they will surprise some folks next season[/quote]

I thought Arizona did a nice job as well...for the second year in a row.

San Diego had a good draft too.

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I've been checking different sources for our draft grades. I'm not an ESPN insider, so I wasn't able to see that one. On the three I could see, there was a B, C+, and a D. You can name them if you like, but no one is an expert at seeing the future. On Thewarpath.net, you've probably got as good, or better assessment as anywhere else. With the new coaching staff, there is no way to predict how our newbies are going to stack up. The puzzle for me is I couldn't tell you anything about any draft picks or udfas beforehand. I only know what is written about them, and of course news from camps. I only follow 2 college fb teams, and that limits my exposure to potential pro players and I have a limited number of brain cells to spare.

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the more I hear and think about the draft, the higher grade I want to give it. I remember the old days when the 'skins would always had bodies stashed away on IR for a year or two to let them develop.

I know this is a real-time, always connected world, but I still think the bets way to build a winner is to address glaring needs in FA & build depth/up-and-comers through the draft.

I think that's exactly what we're witnessing.

'Skins are off to a good start toward that long term winner that we've all been waiting for.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1072393]Maybe not this year. But in the 2nd and 3rd years? Absolutely. I think ILB is a weakness and was one of the reasons the defense stunk.[/quote]

LOL.

No. Not unless that 7th rounder is a 1st round talent who's dropped due to off-field or health concerns.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1072468]LOL.

No. Not unless that 7th rounder is a 1st round talent who's dropped due to off-field or health concerns.[/quote]

Shayne Skov had a knee injury in 2011 that limited his effectiveness in the last two seasons, for sure in 2012. At Sanford's pro day, an injured hamstring contributed to his poor 40 yard time. To say that Skov could come here and compete for a starting job a few years down the road isn't ridiculous at all. To write him off as merely a "7th rounder" or a "7th round pick", as if that's all he would have been and as if he's immediately a scrub just because no one drafted him, [I]is[/I] ridiculous. Now, I'm not saying that NFL scouts don't know as much as I do, but I am saying that injuries played a big role in his fall.

I don't know if you've watched the guy play or not, and I hope none of the following applies to you, but his game is not represented well by a 40 yard dash in shorts, the same as any other prospect. Workouts at pro days and the Combine just add a little bit to the puzzle that is the draft; in no way should they be taken as seriously as some fans take them. Watch him play, then check out his workout numbers. If anybody thinks a poor workout negates anything a player does on the field, they have an incorrect way of looking at it.

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Solid B draft. Could be an A draft depending on the potential and expectations they meet or exceed.

They picked up 2 players that they already seem to like in Murphy and Spencer Long. And they should contribute one way or another in year one. They are hopeful in 2 players that could develop into major starters/contributors - Moses and Seastrunk. Ryan Grant was already described by Gruden as looking like a 10 year vet in certain aspects of his route running in rookie minicamp. Corner Breeland has the physical tools and attitude to be competitive and at the very least will contribute on special teams. Even the kicker in the 7th round will be given every opportunity to challenge Kai Forbaith for his spot.

And some of the UDFAs may make the roster and also contribute. I'm especially interested with the NTs/DTs and DBs.

So this draft will not be a bust by any means. This seemed to be a blue collar draft that picked up several role players that will contribute with the potential to be impact players. This is the draft that the Redskins have needed for awhile.

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... a lot of these draft picks and UDFAs will replace several underperformers and players who were just completely overwhelmed on the NFL level last season. And just a thought - Orakpo, you can learn a lot from Trent Murphy on "proving" yourself and not being complacent.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1072534]... a lot of these draft picks and UDFAs will replace several underperformers and players who were just completely overwhelmed on the NFL level last season. And just a thought - Orakpo, you can learn a lot from Trent Murphy on "proving" yourself and not being complacent.[/quote]

Rak hasn't proved himself?

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look at me sitting here as only a 9 sack a year guy........boy is my face red

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[quote=Mattyk;1072564]Rak hasn't proved himself?[/quote]

Yet on the same token Kirk cousins has proven he is an NFL caliber starter. lol !!!!!!!

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1072568]Yet on the same token Kirk cousins has proven he is an NFL caliber starter. lol !!!!!!![/quote]

Enough crazy train for one stop please

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[quote=Mattyk;1072564]Rak hasn't proved himself?[/quote]

It's not really a judgement call to debate. It's more about his attitude when he said it (not having to prove anything). A true competitor is always driven by "proving" themselves to try to be the best. Orakpo is good, but he always had the potential to be much greater.