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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1130718]Gruden has one road win in his tenure...sample is big enough to say this is a reasonable concern.[/QUOTE]


Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.

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Bring our boy home again!!

Cowboys have waived RB Trey Williams.

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[quote=punch it in;1130756]Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.[/quote]

Jesus man, it's the nfl. U think going into Chicago in December gonna be a breeze? What about back to back road games against division rivals to end the year...that gonna be a cake walk? Learning to win on the road shows growth...lets take the next step., I never said we couldn't do it, we just haven't yet.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1130756]Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.[/QUOTE]


Should have won Falcons game. Anyway maybe they make up for it with one of these road games. Imo they need 2 of 3 road games.

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[quote=punch it in;1130756]Lets read between the lines, shall we?
Last year he inherited an absolute dumpster fire. That team simply was not built to win games period - let alone on the road.
This year we have lost to 5 pretty good teams on the road. Giants, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons. That is one bitch of a road schedule.[/quote]

The Skins have momentum right now and confidence. 5-3 in conference and 2-1 in the division. I would say in the last five games the only game I was disappointed and felt they were outclassed in every facet was the Carolina game.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1130761]Jesus man, it's the nfl. U think going into Chicago in December gonna be a breeze? What about back to back road games against division rivals to end the year...that gonna be a cake walk? Learning to win on the road shows growth...lets take the next step., I never said we couldn't do it, we just haven't yet.[/QUOTE]


I think you misread my post. I dont think division games on the road are ever easy. I dont think chicago is going to be easy. That was my point. . As i said i dont think any of our road games this year are easy. Quite the opposite. Its been a brutal road schedule by any teams standards. So do i think it is a "concern" that Gruden has not won on the road this year? No. I think its been a tough ass road schedule.
Edit: when they start dropping games to 2-3-4 win type teams than its a concern.

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[QUOTE=kingj;1130762]Should have won Falcons game. Anyway maybe they make up for it with one of these road games. Imo they need 2 of 3 road games.[/QUOTE]


Giants going 2-3 down the stretch beating the Dolphins n Eagles and losing to Carolina, Jets, and Vikings. Puts them at 7-9.
Skins imo can win out. Bills are probably the best team we face and it is a home game. Bears on the road even is tough but certainly winnable. Dallas twice and Philly. Fuck them. Lol. Funny thing is 7-9 could easily win this division.

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Chicago is not the same team it was a few weeks ago, they are much better. Forte is back, Lankford has proven to be the heir to Forte, Jeffries is back and their D is playing much better. If there's one team that worries me, it's the bears.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1130768]Chicago is not the same team it was a few weeks ago, they are much better. Forte is back, Lankford has proven to be the heir to Forte, Jeffries is back and their is playing much better. If there's one team that worries me, it's the bears.[/QUOTE]


Yeah i realize that. Its a toss up for me between the Bills n Bears.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1130768]Chicago is not the same team it was a few weeks ago, they are much better. Forte is back, Lankford has proven to be the heir to Forte, Jeffries is back and their D is playing much better. If there's one team that worries me, it's the bears.[/QUOTE]
True. But we aren't either. We are as healthy as we have been. And the team(by that I mean KC) is playing with confidence. Hopefully the Skins stay focused and take it to Dallas next Monday! Can't wait to hear Gruden call this one for ESPN.

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One thing that had me happy about Sunday's win over the NYG was the secondary. As banged up as the secondary was, they contributed to the win. I'm keeping my eye on the kid Dunbar.

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I guess Fewell is the genius behind the Dunbar conversion to CB:

--Give Washington secondary coach Perry Fewell credit. He hasn't had a full deck of cards with that unit since the second day of training camp when Bashaud Breeland was both suspended one game by the NFL and sustained a knee injury. Within a week Fewell was begging coach Jay Gruden to lend him wide receiver Quinton Dunbar, an undrafted rookie with little chance of making the roster.

Well, Dunbar did make the practice squad. But as a cornerback. That's how impressive he was during camp with long arms on a 6-foot-2 frame. Sunday, he intercepted Eli Manning in the end zone to help the Redskins to a 20-14 win. Add in injuries to Chris Culliver (torn ligaments, right knee), now lost for the season, and DeAngelo Hall (plantar plate tear, right toe), and a disastrous start from former second-round pick David Amerson, and Fewell's group could have fallen apart.

Instead, veteran Will Blackmon was brought in and has provided a stabilizing presence, and young players like Dunbar and Deshazor Everett have held their own. Rookie Kyshoen Jarrett has been a jack-of-all trades bouncing between safety and nickel corner. Somehow, it's all worked.

"(Fewell is) not a big yell-at-you, in-your-face type guy. He's more of a great, fundamental teacher," Gruden said. "And when you have great teachers like that -- (defensive coordinator) Joe Barry does a good job -- it makes the transition from one position to another pretty smooth.

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Veteran DeAngelo Hall, who spent the first 13-plus years of his NFL career as one of the top cornerbacks in the league, where he was named a Pro Bowler three times, is now listed as the starter at the strong safety position. Listed behind him are Trenton Robinson and Jeron Johnson, although Robinson has not played the past two games with a hamstring injury.

-- That means Bashaud Breeland officially moves into Hall's spot as one of the top two cornerbacks, and Quinton Dunbar remains behind him. With Chris Culliver out for the year with a torn ACL and MCL, Will Blackmon is now officially listed as the starter at the other cornerback spot, with Deshazor Everett and Dashaun Phillips, who was signed to the active roster from the practice squad on Friday, behind him.


very interesting to see Hall at the SS starter...what a disappointment Jeron Johnson has been. I imagine Jarrett will continue at slot corner

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[quote=Chico23231;1130808]Veteran DeAngelo Hall, who spent the first 13-plus years of his NFL career as one of the top cornerbacks in the league, where he was named a Pro Bowler three times, is now listed as the starter at the strong safety position. Listed behind him are Trenton Robinson and Jeron Johnson, although Robinson has not played the past two games with a hamstring injury.

-- That means Bashaud Breeland officially moves into Hall's spot as one of the top two cornerbacks, and Quinton Dunbar remains behind him. With Chris Culliver out for the year with a torn ACL and MCL, Will Blackmon is now officially listed as the starter at the other cornerback spot, with Deshazor Everett and Dashaun Phillips, who was signed to the active roster from the practice squad on Friday, behind him.


very interesting to see Hall at the SS starter...what a disappointment Jeron Johnson has been. I imagine Jarrett will continue at slot corner[/quote]

I'm curious, I remember when we got Johnson the fan base (me included) got excited because we were taking a backup from the Legion of Boom and figuring that he might be very good, just stuck behind some great players in Chancellor and Earl Thomas.

But we only signed Johnson for close to league minimum. Seems like nobody else really wanted him much.

I don't remember the Redskins ever behaving like they thought Johnson was the answer, I remember them always couching it that Johnson and Ihenacho would compete to play.

Unless I'm wrong on that, I think this is a classic case of where the fanbase got carried away. Still though, for Johnson to not even be reliable enough to prevent the team from converting an aging corner to play his spot, not good.

At least we're not on the hook for a big contract.