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Chico23231 01-19-2017 08:29 AM

Re: Redskins Free Agents List
 
[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29802/redskins-no-longer-have-issues-with-salary-cap]Washington Redskins no longer have issues with salary cap - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

I think folks gonna come to a quick realization that decent starters gonna get paid. That's why 8.5-9.5 isn't out of the question for Baker...especially if Garcon starting number is 9 per year....

"But this cap room is why any decision on keeping free-agent receivers Pierre Garcon and DeSean Jackson won’t come down to being unable to afford them. Both will have multiple suitors, so their price tag will start around $9 million per year, with Jackson likely being able to command more."


...damn just saw this article posted in the Cousins thread. my bad

Irrefutable 01-19-2017 11:05 AM

Re: Redskins Free Agents List
 
[quote=Chico23231;1163266][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29802/redskins-no-longer-have-issues-with-salary-cap]Washington Redskins no longer have issues with salary cap - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

I think folks gonna come to a quick realization that decent starters gonna get paid. That's why 8.5-9.5 isn't out of the question for Baker...especially if Garcon starting number is 9 per year....

"But this cap room is why any decision on keeping free-agent receivers Pierre Garcon and DeSean Jackson won’t come down to being unable to afford them. Both will have multiple suitors, so their price tag will start around $9 million per year, with Jackson likely being able to command more."

.damn just saw this article posted in the Cousins thread. my bad[/quote]

If you sign Cousins $20+, Baker $9, Garcon $9, and Jackson $9 you are down to $23 million very quickly. (You need about $5 for draft picks too) And you have added no one new to the defense. They need to spend wisely on every free-agent and not overpay their own.

metalskins 01-19-2017 11:38 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1162953]For me, Cousins has to be resigned and if he'll take a $23M average deal, the cap can take it.
DJax would be nice but he's off to Philly.
I'd keep Baker on $8M. He's not only a good player, he's a leader and very emotive player. Just what Gruden likes and the team needs.
Garcon is worth keeping if we can get $7.5M average. He's coming off a 1000y season why would you not try to resign him?
Davis likewise. Proved he's over his 49ers slump and really seems to like it here. Probably get a cap friendly deal too.
Galette could be a bust if he's hurt again or he could be a Tim Hightower revelation. For what he's likely to cost after 2 years out, I'm betting he's a cap friendly bargain.
Ihenacho would be good for depth, but not at starter money. We need to draft at least one S as there is pretty much zilch in FA, so he's worth keeping as insurance.
Sullivan I'd keep as a solid backup.
Rest are either r friendly deals or gone.

How's it work with RFA's? Don't we get compensation if they sign elsewhere?[/quote]


Gallette is willing to work for anything they give him. He just wants another chance to prove himself, and I'm all about giving him another chance. He won't command much. With Jackson, sure, I'd love to keep him if we could, but yeah, he's going to get paid and I think the Redskins are still loaded at wide receiver enough to not retain Jackson. Definitely think Garcon needs to be re-sighed. I agree about Davis. Niles Paul has been a no-show this year, and I think Davis redeemed himself.

Defensewins 01-19-2017 11:39 AM

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With the depth we have at WR, we do not need both DJAX and Garcon. One must go so we can address defense, oline, RB and blocking TE

MTK 01-19-2017 12:25 PM

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Let Jackson walk, I think he's intent on signing elsewhere anyway.

diehardskin2982 01-19-2017 04:42 PM

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I am in the boat of signing Cousins to the non-exclusive tag and hoping SF or another team in the top 10 bites. It would be taking a step back this year to be great for the next 3-5 years.

If we can get SF #2 pick I am doing the following...

Draft #2 Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
Draft #17 Jabrill Peppers S Michigan or RAEKWON MCMILLAN ILB Ohio State

If we draft McMillan try to draft Budda Baker FS Washington in the 2nd round. I'd also take Ben Boulware in the 6th, I think he's a baller that will grow into a star.

As far as Free Agents by letting Cousins go, we can put that money elsewhere, below are name I'm interested in...

Mike Glennon QB or Ryan Mallett QB
DeAngelo Williams RB

Ted Ginn Jr. WR or Kendall Wright WR or Terrelle Pryor WR
Pierre Garcon WR

Vernon Davis TE

Ronald Leary G

Combination of atleast three of the following:
*Chris Baker DE*

Glenn Dorsey DE/NT
Ziggy Hood DE
Alan Branch NT
William Gholston DE
*Johnathan Hankins DT*

Junior Galette OLB
Lorenzo Alexander OLB

Manti Te'o ILB
Dont'a Hightower ILB

Greg Toler CB
Chris Culliver CB- Knee should be healed. doesn't perform cut him
Dee Milliner CB- same thing as Culliver

DAngelo Hall S

dmek25 01-19-2017 07:00 PM

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all i have to say is thank god your not running the redskins. are you vinny in disguise?

punch it in 01-19-2017 07:28 PM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1163368]I am in the boat of signing Cousins to the non-exclusive tag and hoping SF or another team in the top 10 bites. It would be taking a step back this year to be great for the next 3-5 years.



If we can get SF #2 pick I am doing the following...



Draft #2 Jonathan Allen DE Alabama

Draft #17 Jabrill Peppers S Michigan or RAEKWON MCMILLAN ILB Ohio State



If we draft McMillan try to draft Budda Baker FS Washington in the 2nd round. I'd also take Ben Boulware in the 6th, I think he's a baller that will grow into a star.



As far as Free Agents by letting Cousins go, we can put that money elsewhere, below are name I'm interested in...



Mike Glennon QB or Ryan Mallett QB

DeAngelo Williams RB



Ted Ginn Jr. WR or Kendall Wright WR or Terrelle Pryor WR

Pierre Garcon WR



Vernon Davis TE



Ronald Leary G



Combination of atleast three of the following:

*Chris Baker DE*



Glenn Dorsey DE/NT

Ziggy Hood DE

Alan Branch NT

William Gholston DE

*Johnathan Hankins DT*



Junior Galette OLB

Lorenzo Alexander OLB



Manti Te'o ILB

Dont'a Hightower ILB



Greg Toler CB

Chris Culliver CB- Knee should be healed. doesn't perform cut him

Dee Milliner CB- same thing as Culliver



DAngelo Hall S[/QUOTE]



Maybe I missed it, but who is our quarterback that makes us great for 3-5 years?

CRedskinsRule 01-19-2017 07:47 PM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1163380]Maybe I missed it, but who is our quarterback that makes us great for 3-5 years?[/QUOTE]
I think he was bringing back Beck

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diehardskin2982 01-19-2017 08:35 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agents List
 
[quote=punch it in;1163380]Maybe I missed it, but who is our quarterback that makes us great for 3-5 years?[/quote]

I'm drafting that QB in 2018 with that second first round pick we get when SF signed the sheet.

I'm not Vinny but I do think he was a member on here at one time lol!

punch it in 01-19-2017 08:43 PM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1163399]I'm drafting that QB in 2018 with that second first round pick we get when SF signed the sheet.



I'm not Vinny but I do think he was a member on here at one time lol![/QUOTE]



I dont think that makes us great for the next 3-5 years. Starting in 2018 even. First of all, how do you know he will be as good as Kirk. Second of all, is he stepping rite in or taking a couple of years to develop like most? I cant wait 4 more years. We got an offense that is ready to win now. Build the D with the free agent/ draft coming up. We can win next year if we do it right. By the time your plan takes flight, (provided we even get the quarterback for it to take flight at all), Garcon, Davis, Trent, and several others will be either gone or in the twilight of their careers.

diehardskin2982 01-19-2017 09:45 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agents List
 
[quote=punch it in;1163400]I dont think that makes us great for the next 3-5 years. Starting in 2018 even. First of all, how do you know he will be as good as Kirk. Second of all, is he stepping rite in or taking a couple of years to develop like most? I cant wait 4 more years. We got an offense that is ready to win now. Build the D with the free agent/ draft coming up. We can win next year if we do it right. By the time your plan takes flight, (provided we even get the quarterback for it to take flight at all), Garcon, Davis, Trent, and several others will be either gone or in the twilight of their careers.[/quote]

I see your point.

Imo, Cousins has wilted during the highest pressure games and that scares me. During the first two games of the season he played like he was afraid to make a mistake. In the two biggest games of his career (Panthers and Giants), with the playoffs on the line, he was a detriment to his team with turnovers. He has trouble making zone reads. Add to those facts, the rumors that McVay would radio to Cousins who to throw the ball to presnap... It puts me on the fence about giving him franchise money. Look past the fact he is a nice guy and the DC media loves him.

Gruden made Andy Dalton look good. You replace DJax with Pryor opposite Garcon. Resign Vernon Davis, add Leary as the LG and bring in Williams to complement Fat Rob the offense will be okay with a game manager.

By trading Cousins or letting some other team take him on defense you add a top 2 talent on the DLine, a Safety to pair with Cravens before you even mention free agents. By saving on Cousins we can use the money to sign Hankins, Lorenzo A., and Hightower in hopefully a Ryan styled defense.

I would take my chances with that my friend, regardless of the QB's name for one year. The QB draft class of 2018 is way better than this year.

punch it in 01-19-2017 10:40 PM

Redskins Free Agents List
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1163405]I see your point.



Imo, Cousins has wilted during the highest pressure games and that scares me. During the first two games of the season he played like he was afraid to make a mistake. In the two biggest games of his career (Panthers and Giants), with the playoffs on the line, he was a detriment to his team with turnovers. He has trouble making zone reads. Add to those facts, the rumors that McVay would radio to Cousins who to throw the ball to presnap... It puts me on the fence about giving him franchise money. Look past the fact he is a nice guy and the DC media loves him.



Gruden made Andy Dalton look good. You replace DJax with Pryor opposite Garcon. Resign Vernon Davis, add Leary as the LG and bring in Williams to complement Fat Rob the offense will be okay with a game manager.



By trading Cousins or letting some other team take him on defense you add a top 2 talent on the DLine, a Safety to pair with Cravens before you even mention free agents. By saving on Cousins we can use the money to sign Hankins, Lorenzo A., and Hightower in hopefully a Ryan styled defense.



I would take my chances with that my friend, regardless of the QB's name for one year. The QB draft class of 2018 is way better than this year.[/QUOTE]



Cannot disagree about Kirk in fairly big moments, but also not ready to start the quarterback search again. He is better than anything we have had at that position in a long long time. He will win a championship in Washington IF we give him a defense.

ethat001 01-20-2017 12:14 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1163408]Cannot disagree about Kirk in fairly big moments, but also not ready to start the quarterback search again. He is better than anything we have had at that position in a long long time. He will win a championship in Washington IF we give him a defense.[/quote]

Yes, this is the main concern with Kirk. Cousins is almost elite most of the season, but sometimes in big games against good teams -- he chokes. However, it's exceedingly rare to get a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.. Peyton Manning seemed to choke many of the biggest of games throughout his career, but then again he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. We CAN win with KC, just need to build a team around him..

Alvin Walton 01-20-2017 08:30 AM

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I dont disagree with the "big game" concerns regarding Cousins but if we had a top 10 defense he would be more than sufficient.


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