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SFREDSKIN 09-14-2020 11:54 AM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1258860]The whole offensive line can be replaced next year. Scherff can go get overpaid and under perform somewhere else. Moses too.

The rest are just JAGs.[/quote]

New offensive system, no pre-season, they’ll get better. Moses played better and I don’t believe he was flagged once, that’s a step forward. Bottom line they provided enough help for the team to score.

skinsfaninok 09-14-2020 11:57 AM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
I can't believe we scored 27 pts

Chico23231 09-14-2020 12:13 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
With the PFF grades for perspective versus other teams

Geron Christian worst graded tackle in the league yesterday, Martin second worst guard in the league.

Roullier bottom 5 grade yesterday.

Schreff had a terrible pass block, good run block grade

Moses overall had a decent grade, top 10 tackle.


Couple other things, Apke got a terrible grade bottom 3 Safety in league ...Collins not great either. Our CB group had freaking awesome grades as a unit...think everyone was in top 15.

Chase Young is like the 3rd highest graded edge defender in the league. Matty I with the highest grade among interior defender yesterday.

WR, RB and TE all kinda graded out as average as a unit.

SunnySide 09-14-2020 12:41 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=Chico23231;1258868]With the PFF grades for perspective versus other teams

Geron Christian worst graded tackle in the league yesterday, Martin second worst guard in the league.

Roullier bottom 5 grade yesterday.

Schreff had a terrible pass block, good run block grade

Moses overall had a decent grade, top 10 tackle.


Couple other things, Apke got a terrible grade bottom 3 Safety in league ...Collins not great either. Our CB group had freaking awesome grades as a unit...think everyone was in top 15.

Chase Young is like the 3rd highest graded edge defender in the league. Matty I with the highest grade among interior defender yesterday.

WR, RB and TE all kinda graded out as average as a unit.[/quote]

That all sounds about right.

If the LT-LG continues to be below average, I imagine we try different combos all year based on who looks good in practice. I dont think we have an average starter caliber amongst the bunch (geron, lucas, sharpe, martin and schweitzer).

Charles missed most of a shortened TC (injury or conditioning or both) and seems to be a project a la geron when he was drafted.

Scherff - hard to focus on interior OL without breaking down tape, hopefully a Cooley type person will do that for us this year. With needing a LT, possibly LG ... I dont really want to add RG to the need list as well but if he wants top 3 guard money .. he can walk.

SFREDSKIN 09-14-2020 12:42 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=SunnySide;1258872]That all sounds about right.

If the LT-LG continues to be below average, I imagine we try different combos all year based on who looks good in practice. I dont think we have an average starter caliber amongst the bunch (geron, lucas, sharpe, martin and schweitzer).

Charles missed most of a shortened TC (injury or conditioning or both) and seems to be a project a la geron when he was drafted.

Scherff - hard to focus on interior OL without breaking down tape, hopefully a Cooley type person will do that for us this year. With needing a LT, possibly LG ... I dont really want to add RG to the need list as well but if he wants top 3 guard money .. he can walk.[/quote]

If Martin under performs, perhaps promote Josh Garnett, when healthy he’s a mauler.

Meks 09-14-2020 01:18 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
So nice to see the team not fold up like a lawn chair.

punch it in 09-14-2020 01:38 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1258864]I can't believe we scored 27 pts[/QUOTE]



Did any of our scoring drives start on our side of the field?

AnonEmouse 09-14-2020 02:03 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1258875]Did any of our scoring drives start on our side of the field?[/quote]

No. Missed FG drive started at our 15 only one that came close.

sdskinsfan2001 09-14-2020 02:13 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
I am not surprised by the shitty grades at all. The Eagles were forcing the pocket back repeatedly. No fucking strength. Soft. Just not physical enough.

Geron's best play was recovering the fumble he caused.

Charles has a cakewalk to a starting job when he's healthy. I'm drafting and signing all of the offensive linemen this off-season. Need a massive overhaul.

Chico23231 09-14-2020 02:26 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
Get Saahdiq Charles in there NOW!

SunnySide 09-14-2020 02:52 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
3rd Down D was good at 5-14. 0-2 on 4th down. Nice to see.

TE Goedert was 8/101 and a TD (on 9 targets)

Ertz was 3/18, 1 TD on 7 targets

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We were only 1-5 on targets to McKissic, I imagine that is something Haskins and co. can iron out (those quick screen/bunch formation tosses).

OmahaRedskins 09-14-2020 03:10 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=Chico23231;1258868]With the PFF grades for perspective versus other teams

Geron Christian worst graded tackle in the league yesterday, Martin second worst guard in the league.

Roullier bottom 5 grade yesterday.

Schreff had a terrible pass block, good run block grade

Moses overall had a decent grade, top 10 tackle.


Couple other things, Apke got a terrible grade bottom 3 Safety in league ...Collins not great either. Our CB group had freaking awesome grades as a unit...think everyone was in top 15.

Chase Young is like the 3rd highest graded edge defender in the league. Matty I with the highest grade among interior defender yesterday.

WR, RB and TE all kinda graded out as average as a unit.[/quote]

PFF reviewed every player in the NFL in less the 24 hours. I call BS.

Monkeydad 09-14-2020 03:14 PM

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I question it too.

I'd think if we had a group of the worst-graded O-Linemen, we would've had at least one turnover and more then 3 sacks. Our run game wasn't completely horrible either, 80 yards and 2 TDs.

Also, most of the penalties were from the DEFENSIVE line.

SunnySide 09-14-2020 03:31 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1258873]If Martin under performs, perhaps promote Josh Garnett, when healthy he’s a mauler.[/quote]

Im such a crappy fan ... I dont know who Josh Garnett is.

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Just looked him up .. college Outlander Trophy winner, 2016 1st round pick by the niners, recently cut by the Lions and signed by us.

mammoth of a man. (edit - a 2018 tweet from him had his weight at around 300 and him saying his 325 days are over ..)

Im intrigued but there has to be a reason. Started 8 or so games for Niners as a rookie before an injury in 2016. No games 2017. 2018 season opener, injured his toe. Seemed to never bounce back after that.

SFREDSKIN 09-14-2020 03:53 PM

Re: Philly postgame week 1
 
[quote=SunnySide;1258887]Im such a crappy fan ... I dont know who Josh Garnett is.

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Just looked him up .. college Outlander Trophy winner, 2016 1st round pick by the niners, recently cut by the Lions and signed by us.

mammoth of a man. (edit - a 2018 tweet from him had his weight at around 300 and him saying his 325 days are over ..)

Im intrigued but there has to be a reason. Started 8 or so games for Niners as a rookie before an injury in 2016. No games 2017. 2018 season opener, injured his toe. Seemed to never bounce back after that.[/quote]

Was a beast at Stanford, had a good camp this year, got cut and resigned to the PS. Injuries have been his nemesis.


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