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You can have #1 WR production without the issues (Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Wayne, Welker etc.) or with issues (Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco etc.)

The better question is, would we rather continue developing Armstrong, leaning on Moss (Santana) for however long we have him and improving our depth through the draft or renting Moss for a year with all his known issues? And just to keep things in perspective, McNabb was finding people when the OL gave him more than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball.

Would Randy Moss help? Undoubtedly, but is he worth all the additional baggage? Not for me, but that's just my 2 cents

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[quote=rbanerjee23;755543]You can have #1 WR production without the issues (Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Wayne, Welker etc.) or with issues (Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco etc.)

The better question is, would we rather continue developing Armstrong, leaning on Moss (Santana) for however long we have him and improving our depth through the draft or renting Moss for a year with all his known issues? And just to keep things in perspective, McNabb was finding people when the OL gave him more than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball.

Would Randy Moss help? Undoubtedly, but is he worth all the additional baggage? Not for me, but that's just my 2 cents[/quote]
Like I said before, RM catches the balls Galloway missed. I think we win at least one more game with him, and over the next 8 games, that would mean a 9-7 record versus and 8-8. I think it's likely that RM opens the field up a lot more than AA or Santana does, and that benefits Cooley, Davis, even the line because fewer blitzes are likely (or we will burn more teams when they send the blitz). I think we have a good shot at him if we put a waiver claim in.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Moss obviously isn't a long term solution, he's probably a 1 year rental at this point. Personally I wouldn't want to give him a 3 year deal, he's not worth the headaches, and honestly he's past his prime.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Santana would still be the best Moss on the team, but Randy would be an upgrade over Galloway.

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Mort just said on espn that 4 teams that are most likely to land Moss are Rams, Redskins, Raiders and Chiefs.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;755553]Mort just said on espn that 4 teams that are most likely to land Moss are Rams, Redskins, Raiders and Chiefs.[/quote]

I think it is clear that what created this mess with the Vikings is Moss wants like hell to be on a playoff team that has superbowl possibilities. He is getting old and desperately wants a ring.
If he is not on a SB team, which the Vikes have a losing record and Farve is now hurt, so Moss deliberately sabotaged the situation with the Vikings in order to get released.
FYI - the four teams you and Mort listed above, none of them are legitimate SB contenders, so Moss will not want to go there.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Tomorrow should be an interesting day with Merriman and Moss both on the waiver wire.

Adam S.

Chargers releaed LB Shawne Merriman and placed Buster Davis on IR. Let the guessing on Merriman begin. Mine? Miami. about 1 hour ago via web

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5757024]San Diego Chargers place Shawne Merriman on waivers - ESPN[/url]

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Defensewins;755604]I think it is clear that what created this mess with the Vikings is Moss wants like hell to be on a playoff team that has superbowl possibilities. He is getting old and desperately wants a ring.
If he is not on a SB team, which the Vikes have a losing record and Farve is now hurt, so Moss deliberately sabotaged the situation with the Vikings in order to get released.
FYI - the four teams you and Mort listed above, none of them are legitimate SB contenders, so Moss will not want to go there.[/quote]


Out of those 4 team its a close call to where he would want to end up.

KC is prob the best team with the most certin QB outlook/play, a New England like GM but theyre in the AFC - which is the hardest confrence.

Rams have what seems like a young decent group of talent comeing togather with what should be decent WR's for next year and going foward - which is a good thing for Moss

I dont see him wanting anything to do with Oakland

Redskins have what should/could be the most proven QB under center and a simular coach that Moss enjoyed with his time in NE. But we prob have the most amount of question marks in regards to our new offensive and defensive system, as well as who our QB will be next year if McNabb wants to be a free agent. We are also in what is usually the hardest division in the NFC.

If i were him it would be KC, Redskins, Rams, and then sit out and take my chances with the new CBA next year.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=Buster;755515]Plus, if he clears waivers, they still have to pay the remaining $3 million left on his contract this season while the team that gets him can pay him the minimum.[/quote]

He will not clear waivers. He will not get past us. No chance.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

quick question, if we claim moss of waivers...does that mean we're last on the waiver wire with merriman?

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=rbanerjee23;755543]You can have #1 WR production without the issues (Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Wayne, Welker etc.) or with issues (Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco etc.)

The better question is, would we rather continue developing Armstrong, leaning on Moss (Santana) for however long we have him and improving our depth through the draft or renting Moss for a year with all his known issues? And just to keep things in perspective, McNabb was finding people when the OL gave him more than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball.

Would Randy Moss help? Undoubtedly, but is he worth all the additional baggage? Not for me, but that's just my 2 cents[/quote]

I think Randy would be a stop gap. Personally I'd rather invest the $ in o-line. As you stated the WR stats would be a lot better if Donnie wasn't on his ass 90% of passing plays.

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[quote=RobH4413;755621]quick question, if we claim moss of waivers...does that mean we're last on the waiver wire with merriman?[/quote]

Merriman will clear waivers

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

SF, Seattle and Bal are all looking at Merriman

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[quote=Buster;755551]Santana would still be the best Moss on the team, but Randy would be an upgrade over Galloway.[/quote]

Are you joking?

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;755524]This is interesting:

One more reason to claim WR Randy Moss: team that loses him this off-season in free agency could get back a compensatory draft pick.[/quote]

Very excellent point.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;755637]SF, Seattle and Bal are all looking at Merriman[/quote]

49ers just picked a 2010 4th round LB waived by the Steelers. Thadeous Something?

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

I'd rather have moss than merriman but what the heck sign em both

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[quote=Mattyk;755538]Are you a #1 WR by chance?

:cheeky-sm[/quote]

No, but i did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :sleep:

lol.... Ok not every #1 is mental but it's about 50/50. Maybe even more then 50/50 and I'm basing this off the fact that WR's back in the 80's and early 90's were for the most part well rounded players who were confident in their abilities and simply played the game. Sometime after that we started seeing all the big celebrations and dance moves, and that moved to the egotistical WR which constantly needs to up oneself each time on the field. Yes Ocho and T.O. are the biggest prime examples of this type of WR.

I can only hope that future WR's don't buy into this and think they are the best and have to be a better showmen but it seems like the trend will continue... Dez Bryant, the Eagles Desuan Jackson running his mouth about McNabb to the media...etc. etc.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Apparently, there's a giant in the room and we didn't see it. I sure didn't until I saw the waiver wire order on ES.

The Dallas Cowboys.

Yep, even though they're stacked at WR, I'll be willing to be 100000000000000000000000 dollars that Jerruh has always wanted Moss and will pounce now that he's in a perfect position to do so.

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[quote=SBXVII;755669]No, but i did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :sleep:

lol.... Ok not every #1 is mental but it's about 50/50. Maybe even more then 50/50 and I'm basing this off the fact that WR's back in the 80's and early 90's were for the most part well rounded players who were confident in their abilities and simply played the game. Sometime after that we started seeing all the big celebrations and dance moves, and that moved to the egotistical WR which constantly needs to up oneself each time on the field. Yes Ocho and T.O. are the biggest prime examples of this type of WR.

I can only hope that future WR's don't buy into this and think they are the best and have to be a better showmen but it seems like the trend will continue... Dez Bryant, the Eagles Desuan Jackson running his mouth about McNabb to the media...etc. etc.[/quote]

There has been a perceived rise in #1 WR's with narcissistic personality disorders like T.O. and Ochocinco. But it's a small minority that is just exposed more on ESPN/NFL network and the like media compared to the past. Decades ago it was guys like John Jefferson and Butch Johnson who were the same but did not have the exposure that these current stars have.

Randy Moss is a special example however because I actually think he has a mood disorder and needs some clinical intervention...

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SBXVII;755669]No, but i did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :sleep:

lol.... Ok not every #1 is mental but it's about 50/50. Maybe even more then 50/50 and I'm basing this off the fact that WR's back in the 80's and early 90's were for the most part well rounded players who were confident in their abilities and simply played the game. Sometime after that we started seeing all the big celebrations and dance moves, and that moved to the egotistical WR which constantly needs to up oneself each time on the field. Yes Ocho and T.O. are the biggest prime examples of this type of WR.

I can only hope that future WR's don't buy into this and think they are the best and have to be a better showmen but it seems like the trend will continue... Dez Bryant, the Eagles Desuan Jackson running his mouth about McNabb to the media...etc. etc.[/quote]

So your just gonna steal my joke? I can't remember what thread I said that in but I know SmootSmack has the link to that post somewhere on his hard drive.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;755690]Apparently, there's a giant in the room and we didn't see it. I sure didn't until I saw the waiver wire order on ES.

The Dallas Cowboys.

Yep, even though they're stacked at WR, I'll be willing to be 100000000000000000000000 dollars that Jerruh has always wanted Moss and will pounce now that he's in a perfect position to do so.[/quote]

Not happening, i asked Jerrys assistant yesterday evening and he said JJ stated "we dont need anymore gas on this fire" in reference to Moss.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;755702]So your just gonna steal my joke? I can't remember what thread I said that in but I know SmootSmack has the link to that post somewhere on his hard drive.[/quote]

It's a popular line...a sampling, in reverse chronological order:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/733298-post83.html[/url] (Angry)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/730035-post407.html[/url] (EQ2689)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/677715-post90.html[/url] (CRedskinsRule)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/614515-post10.html[/url] (Trample)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/525957-post36.html[/url] (GMScud)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/421450-post18.html[/url] (Angry)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/349526-post35.html[/url] (SmootSmack)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/73456-post38.html[/url] (Pocono...who?)

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/73415-post17.html[/url] (Angry)

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The joke is beyond stale at this point.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;755702]So your just gonna steal my joke? I can't remember what thread I said that in but I know SmootSmack has the link to that post somewhere on his hard drive.[/quote]

Ohhh stop!!! Your just mad because TO is better. Get over it man.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

Well, doesn't sound like we are going to get RMoss. I think we should have done something to address WR this year, but guess not:

Adam_Schefter Adam Schefter
Potential destinations: Randy Moss -- St. Louis, Oakland, Tennessee. Shawne Merriman -- SF, Miami, Baltimore. But we'll see after 4 pm ET.
22 seconds ago

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

FYI. We have allegedly put a claim in for Moss. have not been able to confirm that though. So don't go tweeting that we did. Doesn't mean we'll get him though

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I think the most likely competition for Moss is St. Louis. I hope they worry about his locker room behavior and decide not to go for it.

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[quote=RobH4413;755621]quick question, if we claim moss of waivers...does that mean we're last on the waiver wire with merriman?[/quote]

As I understand it, yes.

re: Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)
 

If he get's past the Rams, I believe he is ours. The Raiders did not go well the first time...

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[quote=Mattyk;755741]The joke is beyond stale at this point.[/quote]

I need some new material. I don't like using the same lines over and over. In my defense I spaced it out over 2 and 3 year periods.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;755799]If he get's past the Rams, I believe he is ours. The Raiders did not go well the first time...[/quote]


I could see him sitting out if the Raiders make a claim

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Moss only has 3 teams on his official website poll, and we aren't one of them.
[url=http://www.therealrandymoss.com/]The Official Website of Randy Moss[/url]

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[quote=44ever;755746]Ohhh stop!!! Your just mad because TO is better. Get over it man.[/quote]

Classic.

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[quote=Mattyk;755741]The joke is beyond stale at this point.[/quote]

Yes but the difference is I only used it once *cough* Angry *cough*

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[quote=RobH4413;755619]He will not clear waivers. He will not get past us. No chance.[/quote]

Then we'd be on the hook for that $3 million.

I doubt Snyder will care though. :D

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[URL="http://www.therealrandymoss.com/forums/?page=post&id=8A23B480-C096-4AA2-9732-A13DC56762D4&fid=5BBFA5D9-34EF-407D-AEF4-2A3B4E0C0177"]Where would you like to see Moss play? Miami, Seattle, Rams, or Titans?[/URL]

[QUOTE]Where would you like to see Moss play? Miami, Seattle, Rams, or Titans?[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=5]^Randy Moss' personal website.[/SIZE]

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Moss is watching sportscenter like everyone else, that is why those teams are on the site. He has no control on what team will put a waiver on him.

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Looks like a wish list though.

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I doubt Moss is constantly starting polls on his own website... I mean... I don't know the guy, but I don't think he's got Summo on the red phone waiting to make new Moss avatars for his forum members once he chooses.

I wonder if he's got some way to get what he wants though. I mean why did he ultimately throw that tirade on TV after the Patriots game. He wants out of Min, and he found the best way to do it.

So at this point, I'd think its a very real possibility that he'll tell teams, "Look, I'm not going to play if you claim me... let me get what I want.. etc etc"

From a business perspective, I certainly think Moss commands a significant amount of leverage when choosing where he wants to go.