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[quote=Mattyk;973433]Huge sigh of relief.[/quote]

X20000000. So glad to hear its not serious.

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;973406]Who is LL@HTTR24_7?[/QUOTE]

He is legit. N its all over the web now that Griff has no severe ligament damage. Thank you Santa.

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[quote=Gtothearry;973406]Who is LL@HTTR24_7?[/quote]

He's the redskins stig.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;973448]My uneducated guess is he'll be questionable for next week but will play.[/QUOTE]

Thats what i think. I also think i wouldnt be upset if he was dressed and ready but we let Kirk start? For one we could showcase him to the league and if he lights it up we let Griff take a week off. If he doesnt light it up we get Griff in the game real quick. I cant imagine Griff not being at the very least sore - that hit was not kind.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;973431]You and Smoot seem to know this guy. Is he in the organization?

And yes I follow him on twitter, was joking I know he isn't 10, looks like he's in his 20-30s[/QUOTE]

Hes also a member of The Warpath. Atleast he was a few weeks back - was telling some really great stories on here. It was pretty cool stuff.

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Any word on whether or not he would be healthy enough to play next week? Not to trash Cousins, but I don't feel confident that we can beat Cle without RG3. The Browns are better than their record indicates IMO.

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[quote=punch it in;973459]Hes also a member of The Warpath. Atleast he was a few weeks back - was telling some really great stories on here. It was pretty cool stuff.[/quote]

I was there....

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[quote=mbedner3420;973460]Any word on whether or not he would be healthy enough to play next week? Not to trash Cousins, but I don't feel confident that we can beat Cle without RG3. The Browns are better than their record indicates IMO.[/quote]

Agreed.. Preach it

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Haven't had time to watch the game yet but seen highlights and just heard negative on MCL/ACL tear...sigh of relief. My question is people are talking like he played after that hit and then took himself out. WTF? What kind of staff allows a player to stay in after a hit like that? Adrenalin pumping, of course he's gonna want to stay in.

Looking at the scores and schedules today I think the only way we make the playoffs is to win the division, and even if we win out that's not guaranteed. NY is more likely to win out than we are even given their schedule. Regardless, there will be a 10-6 team to miss the playoffs probably.

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[quote=mbedner3420;973460]Any word on whether or not he would be healthy enough to play next week? Not to trash Cousins, but I don't feel confident that we can beat Cle without RG3. The Browns are better than their record indicates IMO.[/quote]

Way too early. Will probably be, almost, a game time decision. I'd bank on that.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;973461]I was there....[/QUOTE]

Oh. It was latenite. Lol. Im an insomniac. He isnt in the organization but hes got a pretty cool site (name escapes me). - and as somebody else said he is the ES version of Smoot.

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Look...everyone take a real deep breath here. We are all relieved...very relieved RGIII hasn't suffered significant ligament damage.

But...

The Cleveland Browns is just one damn game. And if RGIII doesn't play and we lose and miss the playoffs, so effin what. We have 10-15 years to think about. Stop being so short-sighted. We have a great thing going here guys

There's always next year.

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[quote=The Goat;973465]Haven't had time to watch the game yet but seen highlights and just heard negative on MCL/ACL tear...sigh of relief. My question is people are talking like he played after that hit and then took himself out. WTF? What kind of staff allows a player to stay in after a hit like that? Adrenalin pumping, of course he's gonna want to stay in.

Looking at the scores and schedules today I think the only way we make the playoffs is to win the division, and even if we win out that's not guaranteed. [B]NY is more likely to win out than we are even given their schedule. [/B] Regardless, there will be a 10-6 team to miss the playoffs probably.[/quote]

We play CLE, PHI and DAL. Not easy games, but not exactly an elite three. New York has to play Atlanta, Baltimore and Philadelphia. I would much rather have to win out our three than theirs.

[QUOTE=The Goat;973465]Haven't had time to watch the game yet but seen highlights and just heard negative on MCL/ACL tear...sigh of relief. My question is people are talking like he played after that hit and then took himself out. WTF? What kind of staff allows a player to stay in after a hit like that? Adrenalin pumping, of course he's gonna want to stay in.

Looking at the scores and schedules today I think the only way we make the playoffs is to win the division, and even if we win out that's not guaranteed. NY is more likely to win out than we are even given their schedule. Regardless, there will be a 10-6 team to miss the playoffs probably.[/QUOTE]

Yeah its unreal but that horrible call by the replacements for Seattle might come back to haunt a few teams including us. Ugghh.
Edit: check the giants schedule. Falcons , ravens,eagles > browns, eagles, cowboys imo.

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[quote=The Goat;973465]Haven't had time to watch the game yet but seen highlights and just heard negative on MCL/ACL tear...sigh of relief. My question is people are talking like he played after that hit and then took himself out. WTF? What kind of staff allows a player to stay in after a hit like that? Adrenalin pumping, of course he's gonna want to stay in.

Looking at the scores and schedules today I think the only way we make the playoffs is to win the division, and even if we win out that's not guaranteed. NY is more likely to win out than we are even given their schedule. Regardless, there will be a 10-6 team to miss the playoffs probably.[/quote]

He said he was ok and went back in. Most likely his knee started to tighten up and that's why he had to come out. MRI was negative so no harm no foul. Your boy Garçon looked good again too. ;)

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Glad RG3 is ok. He has got to start sliding feet first.

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**** Seattle

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I would start Cousins next week, let's see how RGIII feels in a week. If he feels fine, I would dress him as the backup. I'm sure he'll be sore and probably won't admit it, that was a vicious hit he took.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;973452]I think we can beat Cleveland with Cousins[/QUOTE]

I agree...let Cousins play next week and bring RG 3 back against the Eagles.

[QUOTE=kct1975;973476]I agree...let Cousins play next week and bring RG 3 back against the Eagles.[/QUOTE]

They will probably do that but Shanny will probably call it a game time decision just to make the Browns prepare for both.

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[quote=12thMan;973468]Look...everyone take a real deep breath here. We are all relieved...very relieved RGIII hasn't suffered significant ligament damage.

But...

The Cleveland Browns is just one damn game. And if RGIII doesn't play and we lose and miss the playoffs, so effin what. We have 10-15 years to think about. Stop being so short-sighted. We have a great thing going here guys

There's always next year.[/quote]

Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.

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[quote=12thMan;973468]Look...everyone take a real deep breath here. We are all relieved...very relieved RGIII hasn't suffered significant ligament damage.

But...

The Cleveland Browns is just one damn game. And if RGIII doesn't play and we lose and miss the playoffs, so effin what. We have 10-15 years to think about. Stop being so short-sighted. We have a great thing going here guys

There's always next year.[/quote]

On the flip side if he can go by all means let him play.

Obviously there's no serious damage so if he just has to deal with some pain I'd expect him to be in there.

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[quote=12thMan;973466]Way too early. Will probably be, almost, a game time decision. I'd bank on that.[/quote]

Given how Shanny likes to distort the injury list to keep opposing teams guessing, I bet you are probably right that they'll list him as a game time decision.

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[quote=The Goat;973478]Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.[/quote]

Watch the game before commenting. Most if not all the hits he took today were on him for holding the ball too long or on scrambles.

Re: Ravens at Redskins Post Game Thread (RG3 MRI Result-Sprained Knee)
 

[quote=The Goat;973478]Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.[/quote]

His run was an unfortunate hit, but most of the times he got smashed today was in the pocket trying to throw the ball.

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[quote=12thMan;973468]Look...everyone take a real deep breath here. We are all relieved...very relieved RGIII hasn't suffered significant ligament damage.

But...

The Cleveland Browns is just one damn game. And if RGIII doesn't play and we lose and miss the playoffs, so effin what. We have 10-15 years to think about. Stop being so short-sighted. We have a great thing going here guys

There's always next year.[/quote]

You seem to think sitting rg3 next week increases the liklihood hell have long term success. We didnt draft him to sit if hes healthy. Besides, Rg3 needs to play so he can practice sliding feet first.

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[quote=Mattyk;973472]He said he was ok and went back in. Most likely his knee started to tighten up and that's why he had to come out. MRI was negative so no harm no foul. Your boy Garçon looked good again too. ;)[/quote]

Heard earlier this week we're 5-1 with Garcon playing and 1-5 w/o him.

[QUOTE=The Goat;973478]Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt say running for his life. That makes it sound like the protection broke down and he was getting chased and hammered in the back field. He was making a play. A big play. Its hard to ignore or ask him to ignore the talent he has with those wheels. Its a double edged sword because most qb's just cant make those plays. He can. They should seriously consider bringing in someone from the Nationals to show him how to slide feet first.

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[quote=The Goat;973486]Heard earlier this week we're 5-1 with Garcon playing and 1-5 w/o him.[/quote]

6-1 now

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[quote=Mattyk;973482]:doh: Most if not all the hits he took today were on him for holding the ball too long or on scrambles.[/quote]

LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?

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[quote=The Goat;973478]Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.[/quote]

I thought we actually were more of a traditional offense today. If you want to save RG III get him a RT and another playmaker. He was running more because of oline break downs. He didn't run much except when he was trying to win the game and the oline broke down and the Ravens had the coverage.

Today wasn't a game in which they called 5 running plays for him. He ran when he had to. Honestly I thinks that's why when Cousins ran a draw on the 2 point conversion it worked. Tey hadn't seen anything like that all day, then bam hit up with it. Never mind that it was Cousins over RG.

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[quote=Bushead;973484]His run was an unfortunate hit, but most of the times he got smashed today was in the pocket trying to throw the ball.[/quote]

Again I haven't seen it, but this sounds like a replay of the season up to this point. It's not a tenable situation.

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[quote=The Goat;973478]Actually...I think you've got the short-sighted view. There's no way RG3 plays 10 (productive) seasons at this pace. [I][B]Haven't watched the game yet but it sounds like he was running for his life (again). [/B][/I] This isn't a long-term situation, I hope folks in high places start to see this soon.

If Snyder/FO expects RG3 to be our franchise QB for more than a few years we have run a traditional offense that protects the QB. It's that simple. RG3 will always be a running threat, but it can't be a main ingredient of the offense.[/quote]


So you're saying I'm off, but you haven't watch the fukcing game? #GTFOH You're the one who's off. I didn't guarantee that RG3 would play 10-15 more years, I merely suggested it. It was a reasonable one at that.

And given the context of the discussion: Playing RGIII in seven days and risk exaggerating a severe injury or resting him for a possible playoff run seems like a reasonable assessment on my part.

I'll let you play GM and head coach about what type of quarterback Robert will in 10 years.

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[quote=The Goat;973493]LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?[/quote]

A QB who can run and plays fearless like RG3 is going to take some hits. Fact of life. If you like the 76 yard TD runs you have to live with the scary hits too. As his career develops I doubt we'll see him running as much as he does now.

Watch the game and let's talk.

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Almost all of RGIII's hits came b/c he was holding the ball too long or trying to make a play out of the pocket. He's always going to be fighting for extra yards, he just needs to be a little smarter about it. From what I could tell, it mostly was NOT the O-line's fault (of course the were not blameless but, for the most part, they gave him time.

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[quote=mbedner3420;973460]Any word on whether or not he would be healthy enough to play next week? Not to trash Cousins, but I don't feel confident that we can beat Cle without RG3. The Browns are better than their record indicates IMO.[/quote]

You won't know that until next week. Depends on how much it hurts,swelling...etc..

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[quote=The Goat;973493]LOL even if this game was different than the previous 12, which doesn't sound like the case, this is still a nonsensical statement.

Do you honestly believe a QB can take this kind of abuse and play long term? I believe it was you talking up analysts etc earlier in the season...every analyst I've heard discuss RG3 at length says QBs can't get hit the way he gets hit.

What am I missing here?[/quote]

Well then let's get him a better pass coverage OL and more threats at WR.

I think the play calling was great today on O, and some of those ol breakdowns were on the pistol shotgun play action passes. The ravens got great push on our guys all day. They are a solid group of pass rushers.

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The Goat is being his typical ignorant self, ignore him

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;973495]I thought we actually were more of a traditional offense today. If you want to save RG III get him a RT and another playmaker. He was running more because of oline break downs. He didn't run much except when he was trying to win the game and the oline broke down and the Ravens had the coverage.

Today wasn't a game in which they called 5 running plays for him. He ran when he had to. Honestly I thinks that's why when Cousins ran a draw on the 2 point conversion it worked. Tey hadn't seen anything like that all day, then bam hit up with it. Never mind that it was Cousins over RG.[/quote]

Good post, I'm already pumped to watch us win but this makes it more interesting.

When I said RG3 running is a main ingredient to the offense I didn't distinguish between pass blocking breakdowns and/or option reads/pistol/etc. The end result is the same...right? I don't care if he's running for his life based on play design or play break down, it's the same risk/results over the long haul.